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  1. Would be great to have a couple of 143’s in original provincial livery. Have these been done before? (assume they have already, but would be great to have a re-run what with all the renewed interest in pacers)
  2. Probably a stupid question, but all 142 models on Realtrack site are showing as ‘sold out’. Is this just because they aren’t available yet, or are all models actually sold out and nothing is available to pre-order?
  3. Surprised not to have heard anything about the progress of the O gauge 117/121/122/120 models in O gauge today? Have they quietly been dropped?
  4. According to Tower Models site, the first of the Dapol Mk1’s are on the water, so shouldn’t be too much longer now!
  5. I couldn’t agree more! I can’t quite believe how hostile some people have been!
  6. Actually I did grasp that thanks! I appreciate the issues with the 321’s as I had pre-orders like others did. When Mike suggested we prove the demand, I can’t see any other way around this, unless you or anyone else has any suggestions how you would do this? It’s not my ‘personal theory’ I was trying to be proactive and offer a solution, rather than being hostile as some people seem to be on here.....
  7. Class 68 maybe, as something modern to accompany the class 66?
  8. nickb4141

    Dapol 142

    Colours on the Chocolate & Cream one look a bit off - cream looks vet pale. Hopefully these are first samples and can be changed as have two of these on order!
  9. I don’t think I’ve ever ‘demanded’ that Revolution offer the C&C livery. All I and others have pointed out is they may have ‘missed a trick’ in excluding it, backed up with facts to justify why we believe this to be the case. This has been done in a constructive way and at no point have I criticised their products, which I think are fantastic. I think it’s fair to say we’ve had a few hostile posts from other members which has felt something along the lines of ’Revolution know what they will sell and you have no experience as a manufacturer, so pipe down’ I’ve actually been a massive fan of
  10. The point I was making was C&M have a history of commissioning Scottish themed products. The fact that the 314’s don’t pass their door and 156’s do is of no relevance - if they or any of the other UK model shops think this is a commercial proposition, they will sell to whoever wants them. I don’t doubt Mike’s expertise in bringing excellent products to market, all that I and others have done is highlight the facts of how the C&C livery is much more relevant to the class 314, than it was to the 320, after he remarked how well the 320’s in Saltire livery had sold, which as t
  11. I think there’s more than 2 or 3 of us! I don’t doubt Revolution’s competence, which is why my credit card has taken such a bashing from them over the last few years! All we have flagged to them are the facts of how the C&C livery is more relevant to the 314 than it was to the 320, that’s all! The fact that there are a few people saying the same thing on a n N gauge doesn’t mean that we are the only potential customers who might feel the same - not all potential customers are on RMWeb!
  12. Hi Mike, I promise I’m not trying to be difficult! I just want the project to be a success as you do. Re; proving demand for the C&C, could it not be added to the orders to find the true potential of each livery? If not enough orders were received for one of the liveries, could this not be communicated by email, thereby giving customers the chance to swap to remaining liveries and get them over the MOQ threshold? Best Regards, Nick.
  13. It’s not based on personal bias, purely that C&C was the most common livery and the most prolific one worn by two thirds of the class right up until withdrawal. Mike has quite rightly said the Saltire livery of the class 320 has been popular (and I agree with that because I have two of them on order!) The point is, current liveries are always popular and with this rationale, the C&C 314’s were the equivalent of the 320 Saltire livery, as just five 314’s received Saltire livery. In addition the inclusion of C&C would have been able to run with either of the current 2 options, so cou
  14. I think the Model Railway business has boomed in Covid, witness all the items out of stock in the last year, so I don’t think those retailers who would be in a position to commission exclusives are exactly ‘cash-strapped’ at the moment and it hasn’t stopped exclusives being commissioned for the class 313. Yes, the 314 is probably not going to be as popular as the 313’s, but the point is C&C livery is in effect the ‘BR Blue’ of the class 314’s lifespan, so it is a core livery with an extremely long (especially in days of Privitisation) lifespan, so it is more commercial proposition than ma
  15. I think it’s now clear that Revolution won’t entertain the idea of doing a Carmine & Cream 314 and unfortunately seemed to have based this on sales of the 320, which as has been said many times, is not a fair comparison. Mike did say prove the demand for 250-300 orders, but doesn’t want to add to the orders as is worried people will only choose one livery and none will meet the required threshold. Maybe an enterprising retailer might offer this as an exclusive? C&M Models immediately springs to mind, as they have a history of commissioning Scottish themed models. They
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