Garethp8873

March 18

Might be worth keeping an eye on your wallets this week... spoke to Accurascale today about my payment for the exclusive LNER J68 7027 and they've confirmed the £139.99 will be coming out of my bank account on Thursday.

March 1

2 minutes ago, Miss Prism said:

Always a pleasure to be able to delete 'NYA' on gwr.org.uk, but these days, to reflect modern marketing methods, I wonder if I should introduce an 'ASO' for all sold out...

I wouldn't say there's a need for ASO. Second stock always turns up. You just have to patient sometimes...

March 1

Another arrival from Rapido!! The GWR modeller is being spoilt rotten with the GWR V14, V16, O11 and O15! 😁

February 28

On 27/02/2024 at 20:36, Miss Prism said:

Set 1 - 1920-22
Set 2 - 1922-27
Set 3 - 1928-34
Set 4 - 1934-42
Set 5 - 1942-43
Set 6 - 1949-57

But as noted earlier in the thread, I doubt whether all these liveries were applied.

Cheers, my aim is to focus on Set's 3, 4 and 5. Possibly 2 but I doubt it.

February 27

I have initiated my purchases of these with GWR 3751 today! An amazing model and I look forward to seeing the others. A question, can anyone tell me the eras that each of the six sets would work with please (in particular the GWR ones)?

February 25

51 minutes ago, JShow said:

I've found a photo in Mike Hitches' Bourneville: Steam & Chocolate with a partial view of a Caledonian van. The Cadbury script logo is visable, but the van itself looks a bit scruffy. A different van in the photo shows the logo and appears to be more freshly painted in a dark livery. The photo is from March, 1955.

Thank you, that's the one I was referring to in my post earlier. With that in mind roughly 12 twelve years service the vans gave Cadbury then. Whether they were withdrawn by the LMS or BR is another question.

February 25

6 hours ago, Fredo said:

Hi,

I am intending to purchase the Cadburys van, did they last in the late 60’s, and does anyone know when Cadburys bought them?

Thanks Fred

This is speculation but looking in the background of one of the photos on the Transport Library website, there are photos of several ex-NER examples and possibly a Caledonian one in the very back but I cannot say for certain if it's Caledonian or not. The date of the photos is around 4/3/61 so if the van in the background is indeed a CR Dia.67, we can say the vans at least had 6 years service with Cadbury prior to them being donated to the fledging Severn Valley Railway in June 1967.

I would suggest that like many pre-grouping wagons, the Caledonian Vans that went to Cadbury with withdrawn from possibly BR service in the mid-50s or maybe earlier. There is another photo where a CR Van is in the background but I cannot put my hand on it. All I know is the loco in front which is the No 10 Saddle Tank.

February 24

I know of this photo of one Dia.67 in a goods in LBSCR territory.

February 20

On 17/02/2024 at 15:20, Wickham Green too said:

I think this is the one that went to Brechin :

Huntly : 26/3/84

... though the body of this one was a wee bit better :

Forres ; 16/4/80

If the top one did go to Brechin, there is only a chassis left now sadly...

Photo belonging to Allan Jenkins.

February 18

On 17/02/2024 at 10:29, gwrrob said:

Did you notice the slight price increase John 😟 , having said that we really have never had it so good.👍

I've been waiting for the Caledonian Vans for years so I am not complaining at all. And you're right, we've never had it so good 😁

February 17

47 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said:

I suspect it isn't a vent because there's another conventional vent. Perhaps a way of loading very long thin things into the van?

I suspect they were used to inspect the contents inside the van without opening the main door.

February 17

1 hour ago, Caledonian said:

Anybody know what happened to the Backworth platelayer's van ? I've seen a photie dated 1972 which takes it into the preservation era.

I suspect it was cut up.

Four of the five preserved examples are now based in Scotland. Former SVR vans 302080 & 304543 are now at Ferryhill in Aberdeen and 73004 & 73007 are at Bo'ness. The only example still in England is the OMB907 example at Rutland.

There was a fifth example at the Caledonian Railway but last photo I saw, it was now missing the body.

February 16

15 minutes ago, Jammy2305 said:

For those who are not knowledgeable on CR rolling stock; of the four CR liveried vans, are there any differences that denote a different placing within the era? I.e are all four suitable for an as built/1903 scene, or are some from later batches etc? (Or, perhaps worded better, which ones are the earliest examples?)

- James

Yes I can answer that.

73007 - Date of build is unknown.

2080 - Approx build date is around 1910.

73804 - Van is identical to the example in Caledonian Wagons. Example in the book is 73814 but still the same van. 73814 was built in 1917 so I'd expect 73804 is around the same period too.

4543 - Approx build date is around 1910.

February 16

2 hours ago, rapidoTom said:

No plans to at the moment - we were concerned that making it robust enough to withstand general handling would have meant overscale details and losing some of the fidelity, but we have managed to incorporate separately fitted elements such as the lower door rail.

10ft 6in - enough for some to get BR XP markings!

You could spend a fair while spotting the differences, I certainly spent a while CAD modelling them all!

Van No. 266 left Cadbury's in 1967 but we think it was still in this livery in 1977 if the photo is dated correctly. Van 278 was preserved at the same time, I don't know when they were originally sold to Cadbury though. Traffic is not entirely clear, some vans on site were used to store ingredients, others were used as permanent way tool storage. Cadbury had at least 4 of these ex-CR vans and as they were ventilated, my guess would be ingredient storage - there are hints to that in various places online but I can't say for certain!

Of the four examples that joined the Severn Valley Railway (infact they were the first wagons to join if I'm correct) in 1967, I would say 266/304543 was the longest one to bear the Cadbury livery. For how long, I am not certain. Eventually it was repainted into LMS Bauxite and that is the livery it beared until leaving the SVR along with 302080 for Ferryhill where they still are today. Remarkably for timber framed wagons they are still hanging on somehow.

Looking at the old stock books, 2080/302080 was the first to be repainted into CR livery and subsequently into the post-1936 livery. 302080 is seen in Bauxite livery during the shunting scene at Arley in the God's Wonderful Railway drama. At somepoint after that it must have been repainted into LMS grey but I wouldn't know when. The other two, (268/300682 and 269/307455) from what I have seen as per photos on Flickr and during my research of Caledonian Vans were never repainted. Eventually the two were cut down to be used as flatbed wagons and once they served their use they were broken up.

February 16

18 minutes ago, SteamingWales said:

One would hope there is a Caly tank on the horizon

In the meantime there's an 812 😊

February 16

52 minutes ago, 69843 said:

The one that has me most curious is the Cadbury liveried pair (nice to see subtle differences between the pair as well!).

Roughly which period does this variation of Cadbury's livery cover, and what traffic were they found in?

I know they were in use until the late 1960s. The 266 example is former SVR resident 304543 which is now at Ferryhill in Aberdeen.

February 16

36 minutes ago, The Fatadder said:

I think this is the first of Rapido's wagons I have been genuinely interested in, as I dont already have any and as far as I am aware there is not a plastic kit readily available.

Only a white metal kit from Wizard Models that's about 20 years old now. I think this is going to be a good seller!!

February 16

Will Brent be welcoming some Rapido Caledonian Railway Vans? 😉

Rapido

February 16

I can die happy 😁

Iron Mink, LNWR Dia.88 and now CR Dia.67. What's next? 😁

The Bachmann 812 has got wagons to work with at last!!

February 15

Time to re-activate this thread for post-war liveries!

I've picked up tonight an interesting negative of GWR 1361 Class member 1361 at Bridgwater on the 6/9/48. My question is what is 1361's livery as only the letters G and W (rather than GWR) on the saddle tank. Any thoughts please?

February 15

If no one wants their LTD Rapido Iron Mink let me know :D

February 13

Another good negative win tonight of 15102 tonight!

February 9

49 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Of course the big question is what are the differences between an LMS Jocko (class 11) and a BR 350 (class 08) as I am not too sure.

Erm... is the answer one of these knows how to shunt, and the other doesn't, plus had a tribute song dedicated to them by this lot?

February 8

Got my hands on 7120 and sister 7128 yesterday. Really pleased with duo :) Only got 7128 briefly today as busy.

February 6

19 hours ago, LittleRedTrain said:

My LMS 7120 arrived this morning. Definitely a massive step up from my old Lima model.

It was a little hesitant starting at first, but much happier after a little bit of running in.

I presume the lack of front/back lighting is correct for this model in its as-built form, with lamp-irons provided instead. (Photos suggest that in preservation it has acquired top headlamps).
Bit cheeky that it's the same price as the light-fitted ones... I haven't checked under the body yet to see if the gubbins are there.

Very tempted to get 7128 to go with it, does anyone know if that has front/rear lighting?
The ordering page isn't massively clear as it (and the manual) state 'Working exterior lights' against all versions.
The main picture is side on, but the 'group photo' at the top looks like there's a light just above the buffer beam that isn't present on my 7120..

LMS 7120 was unfortunately not preserved. 7120 was withdrawn on the 25/01/1969 and cut up at Cashmore's (Great Bridge) in May 1970. The '7120' seen at the Lakeside & Haverthwaite Railway in a photo from around 2002 is in fact the War Department example WD 70272/AD 601 (aka 878 Basra from the LMR). Unfortunately the Lakeside & Haverthwaite Railway don't help by claiming their Class 11 is LMS 7120 when infact this isn't the case.

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