Garethp8873

Your welcome :)

I ain't complaining when it comes to no carriages or wagons from Bachmann. I have enough to deal with from Rapido!! :D

Having just read the thread, I'm feeling very uneasy with this project atm. KR Models are going to have do a brilliant job if they want my earnings for the the MICAs...

Going by what little information we have given so far on the livery of the models and considering their focus has been on the SVR's example (GWR 105873), I would most likely say that the liveries will be pre-1936 as that is what 105873 has been presented in since returning to traffic. I cannot though speak for @KR Models so you would need to email them as to the livery. The MICA at Didcot is currently a bare frame and is beginning it's overhaul. The photo on the Wagon Survey is quite an old photo now. Although I've only seen 105860 in post-36 livery as per below, I know the van has been in both pre and post 36 liveries during it's time at Didcot.

Two types left now... ICI006CW 19052 and ICI006DW 19110. When it comes to wagon loads for the ICI Hoppers, I see Precision and Ten Commandments do these. What have fellow modellers gone for when they want to give these wagons a load?

Hello again, That again is appreciated and further cements my decision to get a full 8 set :)

Thanks for that information @BMacdermott. I must admit I was puzzled when I looked at the listings yesterday and saw two lots of set 79 and 74. It's going to be painful but I will bite the bullet and put in an order for a full set 79 at somepoint :) As long as it isn't GWR 813 then I can turn a blind eye... I mean how can anyone not respect 813?

It's a pleasure. I luckily put my order in for the the pristine 3284 examples last night. As of looking at the product listing today, I saw they are all gone. Dear @Hattons Dave, It's was a pleasure and I'm glad you find the photos of both wagons useful. If you wish me to do any wagon or carriage research for you and Hattons in the future, please drop me a comment as I do a lot of photographic research as my Flickr page shows. ATB, Garethp8873.

A Quad-Art is on my list of pre-orders but determining which I need atm. With Dapol doing the Toplights soon, me thinks some of my old Toplights will need to fund a Quad-Art set...

Looking at their Facebook page, a re-run isn't on the plans at the moment. Btw @Hattons Dave thank you for using my photo of 3252 on your website. Also would you mind adding my name to the photo you're using of GWR MICA B 105873 at somepoint please at it's one of my photographs :)

I did write an article on the MICA vans that @Miss Prismhas posted on the GWR Modelling page. I find them a very interesting wagon. And more a reason with the X8 being done, I hope to soon see a TEVAN and and the X7 diagram.

Thanks for this information. Would you mind me posting this on the GWR Modellers Facebook page? This would be very useful to many of our members on group.

Rolling stock is my speciality :) Like @The FatadderI'm going to sit on the fence and watch the development from afar before making a financial commitment. If KR Models are just basing their research upon the preserved 105873 and not looking at the historical information of the MICA X8 (which is easy to obtain) then I feel uneasy.

The GWR 813 Preservation Fund are excellent at researching the histories the 100+ vehicles that are in it's ownership. Their information when it comes to wagons such as the Improvised Gunpowder Van/Iron Mink 58725 and the last surviving Brecon and Merthyr 4 Plank Open 197/99766 was very impressive. 105873 was originally preserved at Dean Forest but eventually moved to the SVR in 1973 in poor structural condition. The van has been the subject of two recent overhauls in 2006 to 2012 and 2018 to present day (as well as 1984 and 1995). Unfortunately the van has suffered from considerable rot. As quoted on SVR wiki "As in 1995, conjecture is that the cause is condensation caused by the vehicle being double skinned and zinc lined and having inadequate ventilation". Two of the photos used on the webpage are my photos of 105873. First being when it was outstopped in 2012 and the other in 2018 after several years of use on the Severn Valley.

If anyone is interested there is a photo in GWR Wagons Before 1948 Vol.2 on P.37 of Didcot X8 MICA 105860 in it's PBA (Port of Bristol Authority livery). The description though is incorrect and describes it as having 'the remains of a blue Port of London Authority livery' on it yet the lettering says 'PBA' rather than 'PLA'.

My friend at Unique Wagons on ebay did for me a 105873 several years ago. When I first saw the kit announced it was a plan of mine to represent the X7 and X8. Thanks to KR Models I can have a good long rake of the vans now.

All three preserved X8 MICAs are Port Authority owned examples. SVR's 105873, South Devon's 105916 and Didcot's 105860 worked on the PBA. When withdrawn by the GWR I cannot say tbh. All the X8 MICAs currently preserved are 813 Fund owned examples. There is also a X5 at Gloucester and the Tevan at Didcot which is an X7. SVR's example is not far off completion and the Didcot example is beginning it's overhaul. SD's is yet to be overhauled.

With the X8 diagram being tackled, I just wonder if @KR Models will take a glance at the earlier X7 diagram as well maybe even a TEVAN? Am I right in thinking that the main difference between X7 and X8 @Miss Prismwas the brake system?

My wallet is bleeding... but for another 105873 I don't mind.

Severn Valley Railway's example 58725 did go the Southern during WW2. According to the Internet Archive's stored webpage of the 813 Fund, 58725 went into SR stock in or around 12/1938. Evidence of the temporary SR ownership was also discovered during the van's overhaul in the 1980s as well.

I have found GWR examples to be very elusive when compared to their later BR relatives. You tend to find photos where examples are shown bearing the early 25" lettering yet examples in the pre and post 36 liveries are extremely rare. Bar the preserved example at Didcot in post-36 livery, I yet to still find one.

Great to see LNER examples! Question @Islesy, what do the 'XXX' mean on the ACC2823 set please? Whilst my focus is on the LNER built examples in the other two sets, the 'XXX' on the others is something I've not seen before.

To add further this, Didcot's GWR 92943 example is in post-36 livery in accordance with the wagon still having Morton Brakes. SVR's example 94059 when last overhauled in 2010 was regressed to the DCII system and had it's Morton Brakes removed and the appropriate livery applied.

It very well could be. I am mainly pondering this owing the 908008 Iron Mink Van that Rapido did in BR livery where the GW was painted over. Dammit I might have to snap up the 908008 Iron Mink now too!!

I don't know whether anyone noticed but I will ask again. Rapido's 925008 GWR 4 Plank W14076, GWR Grey (BR Lettering), does anyone else think that Swindon did a "lazy" and just painted over the "G"? Curious to see what you think as I might just add this one to my stack for future re-application of the G.