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  1. The castings are now fitted and I have temporarily fitted the door latch operating levers just for the photograph. I will remove them and paint them separately then fit them permanently after the decals are applied as it is difficult to work around them. I will be ordering the etches for those members who have requested one of these vans tomorrow, so if anybody else wants one, let me know asap.
  2. The rain strips and lamp irons are now in place so the body is more or less completed. I have left the door latch levers off till the van is painted and the decals applied as this makes it easier to apply them. Once the decals are on the levers can be fitted into place and fixed with a drop of superglue. I've got the grandkids coming today for a few days so that will be the job stopped till the end of the week.
  3. Hi John Thanks for the kind comments once again. I will be adding the pipes to the buffer beam but not on the underside of the van as they will probably interfere with the operation of the Cleminson truck. With regards to the soldering, I have designed the van so most of the soldering can be done from the inside so very little solder shows. I find I only have problems with solder going in places I don't want it to go when I have put on too much flux. The solder will always flow naturally where the flux is lying so if you put too much on it spreads and the solder follows it. I usually apply the flux with a cocktail stick as it is more controllable. Ian
  4. The Ice box, platforms and ladder are now in place, next job is to fit the rain strips, but that's tomorrows job.
  5. The chassis is now virtually complete. I still need to fit the castings and the brake rodding but I will leave that till last so nothing gets damaged. I haven't fitted the NEM boxes to this one as I am going to fit working couplings when it is painted. Time to do a bit more on the van body now. Ian
  6. I got a bit more done on the chassis today. I'll try to get the brake shoes fitted tomorrow. Ian
  7. Paul, here are some photos of the ladder assembly as promised. First stage, fold up the sides and fit a couple of pieces of 0.3mm wire. Fit more wires in between the frames File the corners off the spacers then cut off the rest of the spacers Fit the remaining wires Carefully file off the remainder of the spacers and the cusp then repeat for the surplus wire and solder from the outside of the frames. Fit the ladder to the van, all done. Ian
  8. The ladder is part of the brass etch. If you look at the photos above the ladder is at the bottom left corner of the roof section. I’m not at home at the moment, but I’ll post a photo later so you can see how it is assembled. Ian
  9. Hi Mike Strictly speaking you are probably right, but the reason I put them where they are is that this van will be running on a Cleminson truck type of chassis. I have put slots for the brake shoes at OO and EM/P4 spacing and I was concerned that at the wider wheel spacing the space between the axleguards might be a bit tight when the van is going round a tighter curve. With hindsight ( a wonderful thing, if you could bottle it you'd make a fortune) it probably wasn't necessary as the EM/P4 guys don't tend to have tight curves on the layouts. If you really wanted to, the axleguards could be spaced off the solebar by about 0.7mm on each side using a few bits of 0.7 wire soldered to the back of the solebar, but once the van is painted it is hardly noticeable anyway. I'm not going to be able to get any more done on this project for a few days, we are off to Milton Keynes tomorrow with the layout. Ian
  10. Hi Macgeordie

    I just came across your wonderful build of the Night Ferry Fourgon and wanted to know if you ever got photos of the whole rake when completed? I am hoping to model the night ferry c1956 myself in O Gauge and was impressed with your work.



    1. macgeordie




      HI Noel


      I'm sorry to say I don't have any photos of the full train. I built the Fourgon and a SR ferry brake van for a friend not for myself. I'm pretty sure I did a thread on the Ferry coaches as well but can't find the thread now. I think I still have some photos of the various builds if you need them. 

      I'm away this weekend exhibiting the layout at Milton Keynes but could put the photos onto a disc next week if you want them.





  11. I've not got a lot done over the last couple of days, 'Life' keeps getting in the way. I did manage to get the basic chassis done today, I'll try to do a bit on the running chassis tomorrow. Ian
  12. Thanks for the kind comments John. I got a bit more done today, the body is now assembled and the doors have been fitted. This is the etches before I started apart from the fact I have pre-rolled the roof. This is the basic bodyshell The doors before and after forming the bolt heads with a riveting tool And finally the door when fitted in place The doors are held in place using the hinge pieces but due to the fact the etching process isn't an exact science I had to open out the holes with a 0.45mm drill first. Fortunately very little solder leached through to the front which can be a problem when the mounting hole is too big. The reason that there is no rivet at the ends of the rhs door is simply that they are not seen when the latch arm is in place and also the raised area gets in the way of the wire which forms the latch arm. Ian
  13. When I had finished the Thompson 6 wheel Brake van it was suggested by a friend that I looked at this LMS 6 wheel van built for the Palethorpes sausage companies traffic. I was very pleased with the running characteristics of the Thompson 6 wheeler which as we all know, 6 wheelers can be a real pain in the posterier when it comes to holding the road. The story of the Palethorpes sausage company and their use of rail travel to transport their products is a very interesting one. There is an excellent article covering all of the Palethorpes sausages company railway traffic to be found in the October 2014 issue of ‘Steam Days’ written by John Dunn and there are also very useful photographs and additional information in the Essery and Jenkins book LMS standard coaching stock volume 1, General introduction and non passenger coaching vehicles. The LMS sanctioned the building of four 6 wheel vans in 1936 which had refrigeration (in the form of Ice cooling) and a fan which created ducted air cooling. The vans had ‘Wolverton’ lighting equipment, the lights and fan being controlled by switches on the doors. The vans were built to diagram D1955 as Lot 986 and numbered 38732 to 38735. The GWR built two similar vehicles to diagram O46 with the main differences being to underframe equipment and the method of hinging the doors so they are not covered by this model. The vans were built at Wolverton works and were rated to carry 6 tons. They were originally painted in LMS Crimson Lake and carried gold leaf lettering with a black border. The vans went into service at the beginning of 1937 and carried the Royal Cambridge logo along with the picture of a pack of sausages. The logo changed to ‘Pork sausages’ instead of Royal Cambridge in 1955/56, Most of the vans were out of service for transporting sausages by 1964 however at least one, M38732 was later used for parcels traffic but all were withdrawn by the end of 1966. There were two experimental insulated Milk vans built in 1935 to diagram D1936, they were numbered 38550/1. They were of very similar construction to the sausage vans but It seems the experiment with milk traffic wasn’t particularly successful and both vans reverted to use in parcels traffic within a few years. They were initially painted in plain LMS Crimson Lake and would have retained this colour which became BR maroon if they were ever repainted. They were both out of service by the mid 1960’s. These vans can also be built using the etches for the sausage van. The main difference being that the milk vans had no electrical equipment or ice cooling so all of the parts associated can be left off the model. Here are a couple of photos of the second test build. The decals are from Cambridge Custom Transfers. Here is a photo of the same van before I painted it. I've just started on the third and final test build. I haven't got very far with it yet, but I'll post some more photos as it progresses. Ian
  14. Re steel BG,


    You may find this photo of interest as it possibly illustrates what I was saying about the doors being flush with the beading on the drop lights and door surrounds.

    Steel BG 3.jpg

    1. macgeordie


      Hi Andrew


      Thanks for the photos, I see what you mean about the doors, that certainly wasn't obvious on the other photos I have accrued.


      It might be easier to correspond directly by email rather than through the forum in future, my email address is:- [email protected]


      It's very difficult to see what is going on with the toplight above the guards door, currently I have just drawn the window the same as the others. I would like to get this iteration of the drawings as close as possible to the actual vehicle so I can avoid another test etch after this one as it all adds significantly to the cost and I'm really only doing this as a favour for Jonathan and Jon. I don't expect to sell many sets of etches which will make it difficult to even cover the cost of development.




    2. Nimbus


      "It's very difficult to see what is going on with the toplight above the guards door"


      Isn't it a ventilator hood?


      The Nim.

  15. Steel BG


    Evening Ian,


    two images of the BG as promised. You can see from the BW image that the shadow of the beading is missing over the doors. The colour image seems to show that the doors are flush with the beading. Infact, if you look at the bottom edge of the doors the stand out beyond the sides! Probably due to being nocked about a bit over the years.

    Steel BG 1.jpg

    steel BG 2.jpg

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