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    East West rail, Bletchley to oxford line

    in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)

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    13 hours ago, SM42 said:

    Well it seems that the Stewartby brickworks site may become a major tourist attraction as its been bought by Universal? Studios 

     

    It seems good transport connections to London were a clincher. 

     

    Obviously never used the Bedford Bletchley service those studio moguls

     

    Andy

     

     

     

    According to Realtime Trains https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:S52375/2024-02-06/detailed Rail Replacement buses are back in operation again!.

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    Bletchley (early 60s) DMU Allocation

    in UK Prototype Questions

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    4 hours ago, eastwestdivide said:

    The Marylebone DMUs were serviced/maintained at Bletchley weren't they?

     

    Not until October 1988 when they were allocated to Bletchley for maintenance.

     

    4 hours ago, eastwestdivide said:

    Could those 1960/61 allocations have gone there for fitter training?

     

    At that time Bletchley already had an allocation of  2 Single Car and 9  2 Car Derby Light Weight Units which were maintained in the carriage sheds to the south of the station.

    Bletchley (early 60s) DMU Allocation

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    Whilst browsing the http://www.railcar.co.uk website I found reference to:

     

    51899 59744 59764 51900 being allocated 'new' to 1E Bletchley 17th December 1960

     

    51897 59743 59763 51898 being allocated 'new' to 1E Bletchley January 1961 (Stabled at Chaddesden sidings - 12th November 1960 pending allocation)

     

    The above sets remained at Bletchley for 6 months before being transferred to Marylebone.

     

    I wonder what services these units covered; possibly trialled on local services to/from Euston?

     

     

     

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    Why were the Class 60s so unreliable?

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    On 17/12/2023 at 15:35, russ p said:

    I passed out on 60s very soon after first ones were built and I can't ever recall failing with one I do remember the Tinsley training loco failing but was just piloting a 37 on a steel train 

    The Tinsley instructor who is great bloke and an active member on here suggested that we should have loose shunted it into the lines of scrap loco then in the yards

    I went on to instruct on them and there was always plenty of room on them.

    FAR nicer loco to work with than a 66

    Surprised no one has fitted a different power unit to one. With DB seemingly having financial issues I fear that mass scrapping sadly probably isn't far away 

     

    Isn't 60 014 at EMD Longport for that very reason?

     

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    Princes Risborough Track Plan

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    2 hours ago, F2Andy said:

    The map Harlequin links indicates the line to south splits off with "GWR Wycombe Branch" to the west, and "GW and GC Joint Railway" to the east. But these appear to be just the up and down lines to Saunderton and onwards to London. What is the story there?

     

    The Up & Down Lines re-join again just North of Saunderton.

     

    https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/36958

     

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    PASSIM Interlocking Project

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    20 hours ago, Jeremy Cumberland said:

    3 was surely very common, since it is used in Line Clear Release to prevent the starter being cleared a second time from a single Line Clear. I have only a vague idea of how this was implemented in the prototype, but I imagine it was a backlock in the Normal position.

     

    I should have realised this as I've implemented a "Lock / Release" for the "Section Signal" on  my single line BR(W) BLT which uses "Tokenless Block Instruments" to provide the "Section Signal Locking".

    PASSIM Interlocking Project

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    See further comments below.

    Looking at your Lockable Levers page where you describe five lever states:

     

    1: Lever Unlocked

    2: Lever Locked Normal

    3: Lever Locked Normal, but moveable from Reverse

    4: Lever Locked Reverse

    5: Lever Locked Reverse, but moveable from Normal

     

    I would say that a Lever should either be Locked  or Unlocked and as such options 3 & 5 are un-prototypical.

    The human side of the railway...

    in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)

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    29 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said:

    There used to be a connection from the Oxford line into the down bays at Bletchley but this was done away with when the WCML was modernised in the '60s.

     

    Bletchley Platforms 1 & 2 were the "Oxford Branch" Platforms and were both through Roads combining before leading onto the Down Fast. Empty Coaching stock used these Platforms to access the Carriage Shed. When the old Foot Bridge was replaced  in 1964 in readiness for Electrification , Platforms 1 & 2 became severed in the middle.  The South End of Platform 1 was lifted and the North End became a Loco Stabling Sidings. Platform 2 was divided into North and South Bays. The South Bay was used  for Oxford Passenger Trains until the Service was withdrawn in 1967. The South Bay continued to be used for Loading Mail Vans which were attached to the "Down Postal" late evening. In later years the North Bay was used for loading Mail Vans for the early evening Parcels to Northampton.

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    The human side of the railway...

    in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)

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    2 hours ago, phil-b259 said:

    Lines and directions are not changed on a whim - the sheer amount of stuff which would need to be altered not to mention the possibility of railway workers getting confused between old and new names means that terms like 'down' has not changed since steam days.

     

    I believe  the Bletchley to Oxford line up/down designation is to be changed. Originally the Oxford & Cambridge Branches were "Up" to Bletchley, the Bedford Branch, as far as I know, still is but the Oxford Branch I believe will now be "Down" to Bletchley. Maybe this is so that a "Oxford to Cambridge" train will be "Down" all the way instead of "Up" to Bletchley and "Down" to Cambridge.

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