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    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
    by brian daniels
     
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    ??? posted on Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:42 am
     
    Bob, The headlights are from 1:43 Cararama mini's. They are about ?‚??4 so cheap enough to nick the lights out of. Here are a couple of pics of them.
    I have also had the lettering for the fire pull done by John Pleck at Precision Labels, very nice they are to, as fitted to locos repaired at St Rollox.
     
     
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    Comment posted by OgaugeJB on Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:29 am
     
    Give it a few years and you could have a Mini breakers yard on a layout... pardon the pun!
     
    JB.
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    Comment posted by alcazar on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:07 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Bob, The headlights are from 1:43 Cararama mini's. They are about ?‚??4 so cheap enough to nick the lights out of. Here are a couple of pics of them.
    I have also had the lettering for the fire pull done by John Pleck at Precision Labels, very nice they are to, as fitted to locos repaired at St Rollox.
    And what did I say? They looked like Lucas LR700's? Well Mini headlights were Lucas 7" units, so your model is pretty much authentic in THAT deaprtment
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    Comment posted by OgaugeJB on Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:58 pm
     
    I think it's pretty much authentic in all departments... all except the distance between the backs of the wheels of course ??
     
    (Only pulling your proverbial leg of course..)
     
    JB.
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    Comment posted by Bob-65B on Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:06 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Bob, The headlights are from 1:43 Cararama mini's. They are about ?‚??4 so cheap enough to nick the lights out of. Here are a couple of pics of them.
    I have also had the lettering for the fire pull done by John Pleck at Precision Labels, very nice they are to, as fitted to locos repaired at St Rollox.
    Cheers Brian thanks for the pointer! The fire pull lettering certainly looks the part....! all your missing now is the realistic black boot marks - doc martin soles contaminated with diesel on the bottom of the cab doors with the drivers and secondmen trying to get into (or out of) the loco .
     
    Bob.
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    ??? posted on Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:54 pm
     
    Whilst I am waiting for some castings to finish the 26 off I thought I would put the air tanks together to see what they look like. If I were doing an air braked one then there is a bit of air pipe work to do around the frame work. Mind you later on I might be tempted to do one of 26001-7
     
     
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    Comment posted by thedman on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:01 pm
     
    Strange for 022 to get helical bogies so early, considering it was withdrawn in 81 without having HGR!
     
    Also don't think it would have had the water tanks replaced with the air resovoirs. (hope this is just a trial of different parts).
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    Comment posted by Bob-65B on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:18 pm
     


    thedman wrote:
    Strange for 022 to get 27 bogies so early, considering it was withdrawn in 81!
     
    Also don't think it would have had the water tanks replaced with the air resovoirs.
    Not that strange thedman. There were already 13 withdrawn by March 81 (most in the late 70s) only one of which was outwith the ScR. No doubt an early experiment by the ScR M&EE Sulzer Section!
     
    Bob.
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    Comment posted by Jamie on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:19 pm
     
    Beautiful work Brian. With space and cash I'd love to do the BRCWs in 7mm - maybe someday.
     


    thedman wrote:
    Strange for 022 to get 27 bogies so early, considering it was withdrawn in 81!
     
    Also don't think it would have had the water tanks replaced with the air resovoirs.
    If I read Brian's post correctly, the air reservoirs were built up just to see what the castings looked like rather than being a permanent feature of his model. Would like to know the difference between 26 and 27 bogies though, for my own purposes in the 4mm world.
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    Comment posted by Pennine MC on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:42 pm
     


    Jamie wrote:
     
    thedman wrote:
    Strange for 022 to get 27 bogies so early, considering it was withdrawn in 81!
     
    Also don't think it would have had the water tanks replaced with the air resovoirs.

    If I read Brian's post correctly, the air reservoirs were built up just to see what the castings looked like rather than being a permanent feature of his model. If you didn't Jamie, you're in good company. I reckon meself the clue is where he says "*if* I were doing an air braked one"
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    ??? posted on Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:50 pm
     


    thedman wrote:
    Strange for 022 to get helical bogies so early, considering it was withdrawn in 81 without having HGR!
     
    Also don't think it would have had the water tanks replaced with the air resovoirs. (hope this is just a trial of different parts).
    As has been said already, read slowly what I wrote and all will be clear, simples
     
    The tanks screw on under the body so I just thought I would see what they looked like under it. Aparently they are having a re-design as JLTRT boffins were not happy with these.
     
    As to the coil springs on the bogies, 26020-046 were built with them. Only the 26/0 had them retro fitted. The B&W picture shows an original 26/1 bogie. The colour picture of 26011 as preserved shows an interesting thing. It has not been re-bogied with a coil spring bogie as it still has the 26/0 style of long lifting lugs ( don't think they are lifting lugs but must admit I'm stumped as to what they really are )on the bogie side as opposed to the short ones fitted to 26/1 and 27's. It appears to only have had the bolster springs changed from leaf springs to coil springs.
     
    I have just got hold of 6 Cararama minis for their headlights but they are slightly different than what I have used so far. They are slightly smaller and more rounded lens. I keep looking at them and think they might actualy look a bit better When you look at the real things side on they do stick out a bit. I will have to make my mind up soon as I am hoping to get the missing castings soon.
     
     
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    Comment posted by 15Afitter on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:23 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
    I have one on the way in a few weeks - where do you get your minis from?
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:53 pm
     


    15Afitter wrote:
    Hi Brian,
    I have one on the way in a few weeks - where do you get your minis from?
    Sorry to but in, but you can usually get these 'Cararama' 1/43 Minis from 'Poundland' type shops ,'TKMax' or Ebay for about 99p of from model shows for a bit more
    Phill
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    Comment posted by m davies on Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:44 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    It has not been re-bogied with a coil spring bogie as it still has the 26/0 style of long lifting lugs ( don't think they are lifting lugs but must admit I'm stumped as to what they really are
    I believe these are bogie retention fittings in cases of an accident, they prevent untoward rotational forces in minor derailments and prevent damage to traction motor cables, hand brake linkages and blower ducts etc, or complete loss of bogie in serious accident, additionally they retain the bogies during lifting at workshops and reduce strain on the drag boxes and internal fittings, they are fitted to many locos, the BRB (81.85, 86) 25KV locos had them in box or triangular form, finally being lost when flexiciols were later fitted to class 86s.
     
    Also fitted on class 66 as a three link chain, class 60 as steel linkages and class 56 and 58 as wire strops, I'm sure there are many others, but these are the ones I'm most familiar with.
     
    Sorry for the hijack, hope that helps, excellent models as always and just the incentive to start my 7mm MMP locos now that the days are closing in .
     
    Best
     
    Michael
     
     
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    ??? posted on Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:07 pm
     
    Michael You missunderstand me, I dont mean the securing straps/brackets but a bracket thingy on the bogie side. Picture should make this clear.
     
    I got hold of my Cararama mini's on the internet at a place called Antics. They were ?‚??4.95 for a pack of 3. Mind you P+P was ?‚??4 so I thought I better get my monies worth and ordered 2 packs. In the pictures you can see the differance in the headlights from these minis that are more domed than the mini I got that are sold separatly. To be honest I think these domed ones are more acurate so I might be filling the holes a bit to take these rather than the flatter ones that I have in at the moment. Looking at the picture on IS they do stick out a bit.
     
     
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    Comment posted by Bob-65B on Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:28 pm
     
    These are lifting / transportaton tie's Brian - there's four per bogie two per side. They are (as shown) normally pivoted down out of the way. The intention was that you removed the bottom bolt/pin and pivoted the strap up onto the matching bracket on the solebar too which it was bolted with the pin you removed from the bottom end. This enabled the whole body/bogie assembly to be lifted/moved as a solid unit.....
     
    Bob.
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    Comment posted by m davies on Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:55 am
     
    Bob, ahh that makes sense, bit like an early fitting of the ones I mentioned on the class 56, 58 etc, only removable, very clever !.
     
    Brian, indeed I did mistake your question, my apologies. Headlights, looks like the original bezel is the better of the two shapes, but the new lense shape is better formed.
     
    Kindest
     
    Michael
     


    Bob-65B wrote:
    These are lifting / transportaton tie's Brian - there's four per bogie two per side. They are (as shown) normally pivoted down out of the way. The intention was that you removed the bottom bolt/pin and pivoted the strap up onto the matching bracket on the solebar too which it was bolted with the pin you removed from the bottom end. This enabled the whole body/bogie assembly to be lifted/moved as a solid unit.....
     
    Bob.
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    Comment posted by Cliff Williams on Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:25 am
     
    Brian what are your thoughts on the diagonal sliding cab window?
    I told Laurie its way too thick in the kit, have you fed back the same?
    Got two on order BTW, Laurie/JLTRT says there are tweaks getting done
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    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
    by brian daniels
     
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    ??? posted on Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:08 pm
     
    Thought I would see how I get on with a workbench thread rather than individual threads per topic. Anyway I have been ferreting away on a Modelexpress VAA kit, the same as Ian G has done. As Ian did I too have added the brake rigging down one side, an early style of variable loading valve. I also moved the distributor a bit closer to the air tank. I also shortend it as I also did to the brake piston unit. The big mod I did was to lower the floor into the body. Instead of the floor sitting on a ridge in the body I cut off a bit on all 4 sides so the floor now sits with the bottom level with the ridge in the sides. I used some spare JLTRT air pipes and Appleby buffers and couplings. The wheels are supported on WEP units, floppy at one end, works a treat. Just primed it ready for a coat of dark bauxite. It looks the part although there are 2 things I don't like, the rather thick bufferbeam and the short handbrake levers. But having said that whens it's finished running round a layout I think it will look rather good.
     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by ham on Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:16 pm
     
    Nae that rocks!!!
    That is exquisite stuff - shame about the brake lever mind.
    After all those other bits it does look a bit odd or am I being a rivet counting anorak
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:37 pm
     
    Hi Brian. That looks great . who's screw couplings have you used. Also can you still get these vans
    Rob.
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    ??? posted on Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:03 pm
     
    Hi Rob, the couplings are from Appleby and very nice they are to, just 4 bits to them dead easy to put together. These kits are still available from Modelexpress Tel 01934 744195. I think it was about ??????‚??50. Mind you it needs Hayward wheels, WEP compensation units, Appleby buffers and couplings and some air pipes to complete.
     
    I also have their OAA on the go.
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    Comment posted by gronk619 on Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:53 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    That's looking very good.
     
    Just out of interest who supplies the Hayward wheels?
     
    Cheers
     
    Andy
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:00 pm
     
    Thanks for the info Brian. . look forward to more progress pics. Great work mate, always a pleasure to read your workbench.
    Rob.
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    ??? posted on Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:02 pm
     


    gronk619 wrote:
    Hi Brian,
     
    That's looking very good.
     
    Just out of interest who supplies the Hayward wheels?
     
    Cheers
     
    Andy
    Oh god now you are asking, I can't remember, I bought them at Telford from the stand and did not take as much interest as I should have as to who I was buying from
     
    Any help with this one anyone
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:08 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    gronk619 wrote:
    Hi Brian,
     
    That's looking very good.
     
    Just out of interest who supplies the Hayward wheels?
     
    Cheers
     
    Andy

    Oh god now you are asking, I can't remember, I bought them at Telford from the stand and did not take as much interest as I should have as to who I was buying from
     
    Any help with this one anyone Unfortunately i can picture a couple of trader's stands but their name is a blank. Think i was on the same stuff as you Brian on that one.
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:33 pm
     
    Invertrain amongst other smaller traders suppy Haywoods wheels.
     
    Ian G
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    ??? posted on Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:37 pm
     
    Thanks Ian and for the correct spelling of Haywoods
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    Comment posted by PCM on Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:58 am
     
    Hi Brian,
    That wagon is looking good. I am quite tempted to have a go at one myself. I had a quick look at the Model Express website and they have the Haywoods wheels listed. I didn't see the VAA listed, do you have the part number for the kit? It looks like they do the VDA and OCA. I noticed also that you are using compensation units, are they a must for O Gauge wagons or just personal choice?
    Also, I was wondering if at some point you could post a pic or two of your JLTRT 37 next to your Heljan 37, I was just wondering how they compare.
     
    The copy of Rail Express with some lovely pictures of your locos in arrived here in Oz last week and its really got me thinking about the bigger Gauge.
     
    Cheers Peter.
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    ??? posted on Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:22 am
     
    Hi Pete, I just went on Model Express web site and you are right they don't mention the VAA. I had a look on the box and there are no numbers or anything on it just VAA in black marker. Looks like a phone job or email to clarify if they have them. I would strongly recomend a compensation unit on long wheelbase stock and in any case it makes it a lot easier to put the wheels on as you would have to drill the white metal axleboxes to take a bearing then line them up square with the wheels in whilst the glue drys. It's a lot easier with these fold up units
    I will get round to taking some pics of my 37's together but I want to put some weathering on the Heljan one first but the weather has been very cold and damp here the last couple of weeks, not very good for spraying. It's got milder now so the air brush will be out very soon.
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    Comment posted by djparkins on Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:49 am
     
    Brian,
     
    I wonder if its the one that they did a run of for MIGO which they were selling them as well as MIGO - so maybe MIGO might have some left.
     
    Regards,
     
    David Parkins
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:46 pm
     
    They are the ones made for MIGO, there was a problem with payment from MIGO to the makers, I wont mention any names as I paid and ordered 2 through MIGO, and never got the wagons, but after a few threats I got my money back, then got the low down from Model Express.
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by The Cutter on Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:54 pm
     
    Hi Brian
     
    Great work! When work eases off a bit I've got one to make a start on myself. Any chance of you including a shot looking at the underside of your VAA and all the brake rigging and extras you've added.
     
    Cheers
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    ??? posted on Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:26 pm
     
    Forgot that pic TC glad you mentioned it Captions on the picture should be self explanatory I think.
     

     
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    Comment posted by dibateg on Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:55 pm
     
    looking good Brian - although a bit modern for my taste! Are you just doing the one? Or will it be part of a train of other vehicles? I've been working on a train of 20 minerals, which seems to be going on forever. About 4 wagons at once is more than enough repetition!
    If you are not happy with the brake lever, could modified Ambis ones be suitable?
     
    I like the way you add text to the photos, what do you use?
     
    Regards
     
    Tony G.
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    ??? posted on Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:04 pm
     
    Just doing the one at the moment Tony. No real plan of what to build just doing anything at the moment. Here's a pic of my "air braked train" which will be getting a bit longer bit by bit. Before anyone comments I know I have 2 vac braked 24's on the front!
     
    Still can't get any transfers for the cartics though
     
    The descriptions on the pictures are done in Photoshop which is where I resize all the pictures I put on the forum. Helps to understand things a bit better doesn't it.
     

     
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    Comment posted by michael delamar on Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:14 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
     
    Still can't get any transfers for the cartics though
     
    .
    how about letraset rub on letters???
     
    Mike
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    Comment posted by d7093 on Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:19 pm
     
    The VAA looks really nice Brian, was tempted to get one before xmas after seeing Ian G's thread and i think your thread has just decided it for me
     
    Am i right in thinking they were introduced in 1969 or are their differences over the early ones, just i model 1970-71 so would be even better if it fits my period.
     
    Trevor
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    ??? posted on Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:51 pm
     


    michael delamar wrote:
    Brian Daniels wrote:
     
    Still can't get any transfers for the cartics though
     
    .

    how about letraset rub on letters???
     
    Mike Maybe Mike I have gone down that road before in the past. I really should try doing my own on the computer I suppose.
     
    If they were introduced as you say Trevor in 1969 then go for it I have enjoyed doing it and will probably do another. Like all things, now I have done one the next should be easier. Some where coded VAB, pic on my website of one, so had through vac pipe to run in vac fitted freights.
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    Comment posted by michael delamar on Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:54 pm
     
    only thing with letraset now is that theyre hard to get hold of with people using computer printers, theyve been killed off.
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    Comment posted by Fat Controller on Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:50 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    michael delamar wrote:
    Brian Daniels wrote:
     
    Still can't get any transfers for the cartics though
     
    .

    how about letraset rub on letters???
     
    Mike
    Maybe Mike I have gone down that road before in the past. I really should try doing my own on the computer I suppose.
     
    If they were introduced as you say Trevor in 1969 then go for it I have enjoyed doing it and will probably do another. Like all things, now I have done one the next should be easier. Some where coded VAB, pic on my website of one, so had through vac pipe to run in vac fitted freights. If you were content to model the BR-owned Cartic, then John Isherwood of Cambridge Transfers does them - see
    http://www.cctrans.freeserve.co.uk/products.htm.
    As regards the VAA/VAB/VBA (all to an identical design, save for twenty with end vents), many of the early ones carried a circular yellow spot (a bigger version of the ones seen on Banana vans) with 'ABN' in black capitals. This stood for 'Air-Braked Network', the precursor to Speedlink- the wagons were painted in 'Freight Brown'.
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:07 pm
     


    PCM wrote:
    Hi Brian,
    That wagon is looking good. I am quite tempted to have a go at one myself. I had a quick look at the Model Express website and they have the Haywoods wheels listed. I didn't see the VAA listed, do you have the part number for the kit? It looks like they do the VDA and OCA. I noticed also that you are using compensation units, are they a must for O Gauge wagons or just personal choice?
    Also, I was wondering if at some point you could post a pic or two of your JLTRT 37 next to your Heljan 37, I was just wondering how they compare.
     
    The copy of Rail Express with some lovely pictures of your locos in arrived here in Oz last week and its really got me thinking about the bigger Gauge.
     
    Cheers Peter.
    ..........Definitely on the slippery slope to 0 gauge ...........you know it makes sense
    Cheers Phill
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:37 am
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    VAA looking good - as usual.
     
    Re the Car-tic transfers, you could try John Peck at http://www.precisiondecals.com or Frank Warner at http://www.scalemodeltransfers.co.uk both are well into the modern era.
     
    Incidently, regarding the threaded sockets as used by JLTRT, I followed your advice regarding hole sizes on the GUV roof sockets, 3-5mm dia bolt, hand held 4.5mm dia drillbit offered into preformed hole - straight in without touching the sides, great, socket placed into hole - resistance, to the extent that the sockets do not fit flush with the face of the holes and needless to say, screwing the bolt in is not an option. I have spoken to JLTRT and Laurie suggests the a suitable, (3-5mm dia in this instance) tap is run through to remove any resistance. The reason for the trouble is that JLTRT get their sockets from a number of suppliers, who it would seem, all work to differing tolerances - especially on the outside diameters, and JLTRT form the hole to suit the smallest outside diameter socket that their suppliers provide. I mention this so that others can ensure that they have a set of metric taps available on the workbench.
     
    Is 37069 weathered yet?
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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  3. brian daniels
    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
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    Comment posted by PCM on Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:41 am
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Hi Pete, I just went on Model Express web site and you are right they don't mention the VAA. I had a look on the box and there are no numbers or anything on it just VAA in black marker. Looks like a phone job or email to clarify if they have them. I would strongly recomend a compensation unit on long wheelbase stock and in any case it makes it a lot easier to put the wheels on as you would have to drill the white metal axleboxes to take a bearing then line them up square with the wheels in whilst the glue drys. It's a lot easier with these fold up units
    I will get round to taking some pics of my 37's together but I want to put some weathering on the Heljan one first but the weather has been very cold and damp here the last couple of weeks, not very good for spraying. It's got milder now so the air brush will be out very soon.
    Thanks very much Brian, I will get in touch with Model Express. As Ian G said, they may not be available as they were done for MIGO. I may have a look at their VDA kit if its the same sort of kit as the VAA.
    Your last picture of the underside details really helps. I see what you mean about using compensation as I can just see myself ballsing up the drilling of the axelboxes Your method looks easyier.
    Hope you get some warmer weather soon.
     
    Thanks again cheers Peter.
     
    Hi Phill, I am only going to get a few wagons and a loco,maybe a piece of track. Honest
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:45 am
     
    How long do precision decals take to produce the transfers.
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:18 am
     
    Hi Ian
     
    why not give John Peck a ring - 07800 744170 and get it straight from the horses mouth as it were.
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    ??? posted on Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:19 am
     
    Pete
    You will be glad to hear that it is blistering 7 centigrade now up in this part of the world so the house now has that lovely smell of enamel paint wafting through it again as I am painting this VAA and my JLTRT 40034. I will also weather my Heljan 37041.
    You are on about getting a few wagons and a piece of track Now don't kid yourself, you know it won't end there
     
    Ian
    John Peck's stuff I have had by return post or very close to it, very quick service considering the likes ofthe data panals are done to order.
     
    Mike
    Sorry about your threaded inserts, the loco ones are as I stated but maybe as you say the coach ones are different. Why they don't drill them out in Irvine I don't know. My 37069 is weathered, pics in the JLTRT 37069 thread.
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:14 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    no need for your appologies re the inserts, unless of course you turn them up for JLTRT!!
     
    Typo on my part re the 37, I meant 37041.
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    ??? posted on Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:35 pm
     


    Ressaldar wrote:
     
    Typo on my part re the 37, I meant 37041.
     
    regards
     
    Mike
    As the saying goes "please keep up at the back". I suppose I did do a few kits in 2008
     
    If you are interested Model Express are at the Bristol O Gauge Show on 1-2-09 http://www.bogg7mmshow.com/ and so is some bloke with the same name as me doing a demo or something.
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:45 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    a bit of a long haul from Wirral to Bristol and SWMBO has another 'evil plan' up her sleeve but isn't letting on at the moment!!!
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:10 am
     


    Ressaldar wrote:
    Hi Brian,
     
    a bit of a long haul from Wirral to Bristol and SWMBO has another 'evil plan' up her sleeve but isn't letting on at the moment!!!
     
    regards
     
    Mike
    There's always Kettering in March Mike
    Cheers Phill
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:57 pm
     
    Hi Phil,
     
    better still for me is Bolton on the 21st Feb!!
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    ??? posted on Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:03 pm
     
    Now the weather has warmed up I was able to get on with painting a few things. I finaly finished this VAA, just needs a bit of muck on it now. Might see if they have another at Bristol in weeks time. I am currently doing their OAA kit.
     

     

     
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    Comment posted by DavidB on Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:13 pm
     
    Lovely job Brian - really looks the business. I'd not seen a painted Model Express resin van until now - I was a bit suspicious of them, but your VAA has convinced me to give one a go. The paint nicely disguises the buffer beam thickness too. I'm also tempted by the VGA kit on the Invertrain website - I'm assuming that it's a Model Express kit too.
     
    David
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:27 pm
     
    Hi Brian. . you have done a great job yet again mate. 1st class work.
    Rob
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:28 pm
     
    Very nice but far to shiney
     
    Ian G
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    ??? posted on Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:00 pm
     
    I know what you mean Ian, it's not that shiney in the flesh, honest After coat of grime rubbed in it will tone down a bit.
     
    David, have a look at Ian G's workbench thread, he has done a red and grey one which inspired me to get this one!
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    ??? posted on Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:42 am
     
    Well here is an "out of the box" Heljan 37 with a bit of muck on it. Looking at it now I think they have made a really good job of it. All I have done extra to it is new buffers, vac and steam pipes, added the corner steps and narrowed the tanks slightly. I masked off all the glazing to weather it and cut out an arc for the windy wipers. I have take it apart now though as I pushed a cab door in whilst taking the masking tape off And I don't know why but the secondmans side headcode box glass has crazzed, like it's been hit or something. I know there are no spares for these as yet so will have to wait a bit to get some more glass for the headcode. They were not glued in too good. Will take some pics of this and the JLTRT ones together when I get more time.
     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by PCM on Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:54 am
     
    Hi Brian,
    fantastic the VAA and the 37
     
    Cheers Peter.
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    Comment posted by Grimleygrid on Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:12 pm
     
    Excellent weathering as usual, superb job.
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:04 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    great job again, looking forward to the comparison pictures as well.
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    Comment posted by Pugsley on Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:43 pm
     
    Spot on Mr Daniels - looks just right I wouldn't worry too much about the headcode glass - it doesn't look out of place.
     
    She's the mutt's nuts!
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    Comment posted by BrushType4 on Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:19 pm
     
    Will you do mine???
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    ??? posted on Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:21 pm
     
    Finished building a very nice Presflow this week from JLTRT. Just ordered a couple more to keep it company. At around ??????‚??70, complete with wheels and couplings, I think it's very good value. I have done a couple of little mods on it though. The kit is built with "sloppy" axles the same as the CCT but I put some Slaters buffer springs between the axle box and spring casting one end only to give a better chance of keeping all 4 wheels on the deck at once. I also changed the vac pipe for a Slaters one and also made a lamp bracket because there ain't one in the kit, tut, tut! Got hold of a sheet of CCT Transfers today for a bauxite livery one with the Presflow Cement on the sides. EMKDE do some transfers for Tunnel Cement and Blue Circle to go on the side boards they carried but I would think these would have run in block trains whereas the BR bauxite ones would be mixed in with the more general freights I would think.
     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by jongwinnett on Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:01 pm
     
    Looks good. There's something appeallingly chunky about these - the old airfix kit had it in spades too!
     
    Must admit I'm getting very tempted back to 7mm these days. I seemed to achive much more even though it cost double what the 4mm stuff does.
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    Comment posted by Pugsley on Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:07 pm
     
    Ah, but if you think about it being nearly 8 times the volume, then it sounds like good value for money
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    Comment posted by jongwinnett on Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:13 pm
     
    get thee behind me
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    Comment posted by d7093 on Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:15 pm
     
    Very nice Brian, after seeing it last weekend i was very impressed.
     
    Being probably my favourite wagon i've held back from purchasing some for now, but your posting has most likely brought that forward, temptation is futial.
     
    Have you thought of springing all four axles, i was thinking about this after returning from Bristol and it should give a much smoother ride.
     
    Also noted JLTRT have posted image of class 20 body on their site
     
    Trevor.
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  4. brian daniels
    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
    by brian daniels
     
    original page on Old RMweb
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    Comment posted by Trainshed Terry on Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:24 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Finished building a very nice Presflow this week from JLTRT. Just ordered a couple more to keep it company. At around ??????‚??70, complete with wheels and couplings, I think it's very good value. I have done a couple of little mods on it though. The kit is built with "sloppy" axles the same as the CCT but I put some Slaters buffer springs between the axle box and spring casting one end only to give a better chance of keeping all 4 wheels on the deck at once. I also changed the vac pipe for a Slaters one and also made a lamp bracket because there ain't one in the kit, tut, tut! Got hold of a sheet of CCT Transfers today for a bauxite livery one with the Presflow Cement on the sides. EMKDE do some transfers for Tunnel Cement and Blue Circle to go on the side boards they carried but I would think these would have run in block trains whereas the BR bauxite ones would be mixed in with the more general freights I would think.
    I would like to see one done in the "Blue Circle" yellow with the requisite advertising board, or will you do it in freight brown.
     
    Great looking model though.
     
    Terry.
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:14 pm
     
    I have photo's all around the Quainton one, if you need close ups on the lettering I can supply
     
    Ian G
     

     

     
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:58 am
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    another great model, wondered what you had been up to as you had been 'noticable by your absence' thase past few weeks!! Can't wait to get back into the workshop once the weather improves, I've almost run out of items that fall into 'allowable in-house modelling' by SWMBO!!
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    ??? posted on Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:24 pm
     
    Don't worry Mike I have still been busy as you can see in the attached pics of a Model Express OAA. The underframe has had the same build mods as their VAA that I did earlier. I managed to get another VAA kit from them at Bristol last weekend but from what I understand it was the last one he had.
     
    Oh and one other thing that's been getting in the way is WORK But the way the economy is going looks like we are working on that one
     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:16 pm
     
    Great OAA Wagon there mate. is it going into bauxite livery to match your VAA.
    Rob
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    Comment posted by hmrspaul on Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:28 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    EMKDE do some transfers for Tunnel Cement and Blue Circle to go on the side boards they carried but I would think these would have run in block trains whereas the BR bauxite ones would be mixed in with the more general freights I would think.
    Brian
     
    Looks very nice. Whilst I agree that in early days the Blue Circles and probably Rugby Cements were in block trains, this was not true in later life. There are some working with BR wagons in the collection
    APCM Presflos of 1960 and 1963 ??????????¬???‚¬?“ 10 photographs
    http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/show_col ... p?id=66758
     
    I have not scanned many of my Presflo photographs - there are a few other collections on the site including the Tunnel Cement, but I have not done the Rugby's. Something to think about when I have some time.
     
    Regards
    Paul
    York
     
    PS - And please, there is no W on the end of the name, they were always Presflo...
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    ??? posted on Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:59 pm
     
    Hello Paul, don't know where that rogue W came from on the end of Presflo Needless to say I did the big search on your site for "plain" presflos and you are right, you are slacking on the scanning old chap A lot of what livery you do depends on what transfers I can get. The CCT ones cover the one in the pic below but without the repair details on the right hand upright. Anyone know if you can get these in 7mm and the round yellow "curcuit" working sticker, just below the CPV lettering. Another that nobody does, I think, are the square yellow stickers on the left hand side by the wagon label clip that had all the weight and brake force details I believe. Might do 5 or 6 of these to add to a good old mixed freight.
     
    The OAA will indeed be brown with a big arrow and TOPs panel. The other VAA I am working on now will be a VAB in brown again with a through vac pipe on the ends.
     

     
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:15 pm
     
    If you have a picture you could ask scale model transfers if you dont mind the wait, im still waiting for mine 4 months on.
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by PCM on Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:53 am
     
    Hi Brian,
    Both wagons are looking good, I remember seeing OAAs at Eastleigh a fair bit, but were they common all over the UK Are you planning on doing any other Model Express wagons I noticed they do other vans and an OCA
     
    Cheers Peter.
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    ??? posted on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:23 am
     


    PCM wrote:
    Hi Brian,
    Both wagons are looking good, I remember seeing OAAs at Eastleigh a fair bit, but were they common all over the UK Are you planning on doing any other Model Express wagons I noticed they do other vans and an OCA
     
    Cheers Peter.
    This will be it from Model Express Peter. I already have an RJH OCA and they do a VDA to go with these 2 VAA's. Damn weather is stopping me getting outside to spray the primer on it
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    Comment posted by richard_t on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:26 am
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Anyone know if you can get these in 7mm and the round yellow "curcuit" working sticker, just below the CPV lettering.
    You could try M&M Wagons. When I purchased their brass kit for the Presflo they had a set, or two, of transfers for sell as well (I got my wagon at Telford). I didn't get them, so I can't help if they have exactly what you are looking for. On looking at the kit and instructions, I think the JLTRT approach would have been a lot easier
     
    Richard
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    ??? posted on Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:01 pm
     
    I have looked on their site Richard and I had a look on their stand but I can't for the life of me remember what was on the sheets. Unfortunatly they have not got a picture of the Presflo transfer sheets on their website and I seem to remember that they did a couple of new ones that are not on their site either. Maybe I should order a set and see what you get, shouldn't break the bank.
     
    Just phoned them and they said If I send them pictures they may be able to make a sheet up Just off to sort the files for detail pics now
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    ??? posted on Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:42 pm
     
    An update on the wagons I have building recently. The VAA has now been weathered and I am in the process of building another to keep it company. The JLTRT CCT got finished apart from weathering. And I have just finished the JLTRT Presflo. A long time ago I built the other Presflo in the pics which I think was from a DA kit? which you can still get from EMKDE. The roof profiles are a bit different. I also have another 2 Presflo's to make as they are a cracking little wagon. I think I will get 5 at least as the CCTransfers sheet does enough for 5 and at ??????‚??18 a sheet I don't want to waste them. I am putting the transfers on the OAA at the mo but trying to get a picture of them in freight brown livery is a bit of a challenge.
     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by Trainshed Terry on Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:29 pm
     
    I have looked high and low for a picture of these wagons running in the "Blue Circle" livery.
     
    Is there anyone here could help please.
     
    Terry.
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    Comment posted by 15Afitter on Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:58 pm
     
    Just finishing a Presflo myself for a review, and although i wont be adding any more to the collection i felt the CCT sheet a little expensive for what i want. however looking at the EMKDE website i found this image (link below) but cannot find a reference to the Tunnel cement on a barge board on a prototype, can anyone shed some light???
     
    http://www.modelrailwaywagons.com/image ... %20048.jpg
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    Comment posted by hmrspaul on Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:00 pm
     


    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    I have looked high and low for a picture of these wagons running in the "Blue Circle" livery.
     
    Is there anyone here could help please.
     
    Terry.
    Which Blue circle livery?
     
    I am scanning more Presflo's but as there are a lot, and I'm tied up away from my scanner it will be a couple of weeks before I post.
     
    Quite a lot of OAA liveries are at
    BR Open AB (OAA) air brake open wagons - 24 photographs
    http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/show_col ... p?id=20791
     
    Paul
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    ??? posted on Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:24 pm
     
    Supperb Paul I realy must search your site better
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    Comment posted by Trainshed Terry on Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:40 pm
     


    hmrspaul wrote:
    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    I have looked high and low for a picture of these wagons running in the "Blue Circle" livery.
     
    Is there anyone here could help please.
     
    Terry.

    Which Blue circle livery?
     
    I am scanning more Presflo's but as there are a lot, and I'm tied up away from my scanner it will be a couple of weeks before I post.
     
    Quite a lot of OAA liveries are at
    BR Open AB (OAA) air brake open wagons - 24 photographs
    http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/show_col ... p?id=20791
     
    In a sentence the Yellow Livery.
     
    Terry.
     
    Paul __________________________________________
    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:50 pm
     
    Hi Brian, lovely wagons mate . You do modelling a real credit with your stuff . Do you have a parcels rake for the CCT to run in or does it run in a mixed. I would love to see some pics of parcels vehicles. As i will be modelling Penzance 1970's most of my stock will consist of coaches,parcels,tpo's etc. What loco's are you modelling next. I know your after a JLTRT 20, but after that Deltic maybe . Are you modelling a particular region or just whatever takes your fancy at the time . Please keep the pics coming. ( I wish i had my shed and layout so my pics would look better)
    Rob.
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    ??? posted on Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:19 pm
     
    Hi Rob. I do have a parcels train coming on with a couple of SPV blue spots, LNER CCT from Model Express, Westdale Guv, I can muster a BG and a BCK (buckeyes together), I do have 2 Slaters PMV's but they are green, suppose I could just cover them in brake dust to disguise it, and a Slaters southern bogie brake. Must take a few pics now the weather is a bit warmer.
     
    As for locos, I still have a DJH 31 in a box to do that I really must start but apart from that it is a case of build every loco going I think. When I went bashing I went for a bit everything, never really been stuck on one theme. As you said I think the next JLTRT loco will be a pair of choppers. I have just put a bit of weathering on my 40029 today so I can get and put the windows and cab handrails on it now.
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:27 pm
     
    Ian Kirk does some nice big four parcels vehicals which look rather nice in BR blue
    Cheers Phill
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    Comment posted by hmrspaul on Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:10 pm
     


    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    hmrspaul wrote:
    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    I have looked high and low for a picture of these wagons running in the "Blue Circle" livery.
     
    Is there anyone here could help please.
     
    Terry.

    Which Blue circle livery?
     
    I am scanning more Presflo's but as there are a lot, and I'm tied up away from my scanner it will be a couple of weeks before I post.
     
    Quite a lot of OAA liveries are at
    BR Open AB (OAA) air brake open wagons - 24 photographs
    http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/show_col ... p?id=20791
     
    In a sentence the Yellow Livery.
     
    Terry.
     
    Paul The only one I can do is http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p5272724.html too early for me, I have a youthful memory of seeing a train of them - I think on the WCML when I was crossing it on the North London line at Willesden.
     
    Paul
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:04 pm
     
    You may wish to speak to the Mid Hants Railway scroll down this page http://www.watercressline.co.uk/tw/pages/wagon.htm
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:42 am
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    yet more great models and the incentive I need to get back in the workshop, now that the weather is seemingly getting better!
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    Comment posted by richard_t on Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:44 am
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    An update on the wagons I have building recently. The VAA has now been weathered and I am in the process of building another to keep it company. The JLTRT CCT got finished apart from weathering. And I have just finished the JLTRT Presflo. A long time ago I built the other Presflo in the pics which I think was from a DA kit? which you can still get from EMKDE. The roof profiles are a bit different. I also have another 2 Presflo's to make as they are a cracking little wagon. I think I will get 5 at least as the CCTransfers sheet does enough for 5 and at ??????‚??18 a sheet I don't want to waste them. I am putting the transfers on the OAA at the mo but trying to get a picture of them in freight brown livery is a bit of a challenge.
    Looking at Paul Bartlett's pic, http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p5272724.html and your last pic of the Presflo's together, it seems the EMKDE's Presflo roof is quite a bit out
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  5. brian daniels
    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
    by brian daniels
     
    original page on Old RMweb
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    Comment posted by Trainshed Terry on Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:00 am
     


    hmrspaul wrote:
    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    hmrspaul wrote:
    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    I have looked high and low for a picture of these wagons running in the "Blue Circle" livery.
     
    Is there anyone here could help please.
     
    Terry.

    Which Blue circle livery?
     
    I am scanning more Presflo's but as there are a lot, and I'm tied up away from my scanner it will be a couple of weeks before I post.
     
    Quite a lot of OAA liveries are at
    BR Open AB (OAA) air brake open wagons - 24 photographs
    http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/show_col ... p?id=20791
     
    In a sentence the Yellow Livery.
     
    Terry.
     
    Paul
    The only one I can do is http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p5272724.html too early for me, I have a youthful memory of seeing a train of them - I think on the WCML when I was crossing it on the North London line at Willesden.
     
    Paul I have found a colour image in the following book "Steam on the West of England Main Lines" by Peter W Gray.The image i question is on page 18/19, and shows a double headed train with a block train of "presflos" but what I can not tell is weather the wagons are indeed yellow or a light grey, it is very difficult to tell.
     
    Terry.
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    Comment posted by hmrspaul on Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:05 pm
     
    Dear all
     
    I suspect a place to look for colour representations would be adverts in the railway professional trade magazines of the period. I have not done this, so cannot help - but do know they show up some splendid alternative liveries for the 'Airfix-ESSO' TTV of 1958.
     
    On the APCMs, I am pretty sure that they were yellow bodied when new - as the airfix box illustration - and I think the black and white I URL'd to is of them in yellow. As my fotopic collection shows they were later in grey with details in yellow. http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c66758_1.html This one http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p1587424.html seems to have more yellow than usual at that time.
     
    Paul
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    ??? posted on Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:38 pm
     
    Just thought I would add a gratuitous shot of my JLTRT 37 with a mixed train from Healey Mills to Thornaby (well it could have been) It was growling round a treat with the sound decoder working like a good un on DC!
     

     
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    Comment posted by 15Afitter on Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:45 am
     
    Brian,
    What is the white wagon behind the Presflo? least you got somewhere to run your stuff, i am considering dropping out of 7mm because of this..
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    ??? posted on Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:37 pm
     
    It's a covhop Darren. I built it for someone who was going to bring a kit out but it never was released. I still have not got any transfers on it yet but I see CCT does some at ??????‚??18 a pop just for this one wagon I did mention it to Laurie at JLTRT wether they might consider doing one. Love the pic of your 37111, monster that one, drove it once at Didcot when it was a Motherwell metals loco! When I got going on it I must admit having a loud "my lords!" or similer to myself.
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    Comment posted by 15Afitter on Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:53 am
     
    Thanks for the comments Brian, much appreciated. I thought it was a Covhop but could not be sure. I feel an email to Laurie coming on.......
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    ??? posted on Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:07 pm
     
    Finished the Model Express OAA at last. Also a pic of an RJH OCA next to it. Going to have a nice long air braked train to run soon. Roll on warm weather! Nearly finished building another Presflo as well.
     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:32 pm
     
    Love th OCA Brian. . Could we have a nice pic of your western on parcels Pleeaase
    Rob.
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    Comment posted by hmrspaul on Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:44 pm
     
    Brian
    Yes, the OCA is absolutely stunning. They were really attractive wagons when new http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p7240528.html - possibly not just because of the red - which was stunning but also because the insides were painted black - I know the SPAs were similar inside and out, but as they had less body they didn't seem to have the same dramatic effect. It was a shame when this livery was replaced.
     
    Regards
     
    Paul
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    Comment posted by PCM on Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:14 am
     
    Hi Brian,
    The OAA looks great, so does the OCA, are RJH kits still available and are they a nice kit to build
     
    Cheers Peter.
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:38 am
     


    PCM wrote:
    Hi Brian,
    The OAA looks great, so does the OCA, are RJH kits still available and are they a nice kit to build
     
    Cheers Peter.
    Hi Peter , the RJH 0 gauge range is now sold by PRMP : http://www.prmrp.com/ .
    Cheers Phill
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    ??? posted on Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:46 am
     
    The RJH wagons are still available from PRMRP kits, here's a link to their wagon page http://www.prmrp.com/wagon_kits.htm They are ok to build no real problems. The only part that makes me mad are getting the buffers to work as the shanks are white metal and there is not a lot of meat in there to get the buffer head going in and out smoothly. The OCA and an SPA I have are fitted with Appleby brass buffers.
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    Comment posted by PCM on Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:04 pm
     
    Thanks Phil and Brian,
    PRMPR is in my favourites, I have looked at their stuff before though I must have missed those wagons when looking. I like the look of their TTA anyone built one of them.
     
    Cheers Peter.
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    ??? posted on Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:28 pm
     
    I have just invested in a new camera so to try it out I took some wagons outside in the gloom to see what it's like. The first pic is the covhop mentioned earlier, which I must get some transfers sorted out. Next is a Freightman blue spot modified a bit for an SPV. Then an RJH SPA to go with the bright OCA. And finally my JLTRT CCT that I finally got round to spraying a little bit of dirt over, so far. I must take some more of my wagons some time.
     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:15 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    great wagons as usual.
     
    Were the 'chalk boards' already moulded onto the CCT sides as they aren't on the GUV sides - fortunately, I have some spares from old Slaters SR vans that will fit the bill. Now received the 3.5mm tap to re-tap the roof sockets on the GUV so progress will be resumed later this week.
     
    Picked up Rail Express 154 today and liked the treatment that did on the picture of 37057 (and the 'editorial licence' in the words!)
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    ??? posted on Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:35 pm
     
    Strange about the chalk boards on the GUV as they are moulded on the CCT. It will be good to see some more work on the GUV.
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:32 pm
     
    Hi Brian, lovely pics of your wagons there mate. . I think the SPV is great . Do you have a syphon G if so would love to see a couple of pics of under chassis etc., as i'm hoping to build one soon.
    Rob
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:45 pm
     
    I think I may be able to help with the syphon g, i will find the pictures.
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:53 pm
     


    Ian G wrote:
    I think I may be able to help with the syphon g, i will find the pictures.
     
    Ian G
    Thanks very much Ian much appreiciated
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    ??? posted on Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:15 pm
     
    Thanks Ian, I haven't got one.
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    Comment posted by 15Afitter on Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:55 pm
     
    Brian,
    About time you gave your tamper an airing on here
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:06 pm
     
    I have lots of pictures of the one at Quainton underneath, it will take a bit of time to reduce them and put mthem on the photo section.
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by Christian on Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:29 pm
     


    I have just invested in a new camera so to try it out I took some wagons outside in the gloom to see what it's like.
    Nice photos Brian, what camera have you got?
     
    Christian
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:42 pm
     
    Link to the siphon photo's viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39401
     
    ian G
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    Comment posted by curassier on Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:31 pm
     
    Brian, beautiful and inspiring work.
    Could I trouble you to jot down a few lines about what other paint schemes might be suitable for the Heljan class 37 out of the box with minimal alteration?
    I see people offering re-paints commercially. These are being offered as stand-in models rather than 100 per cent accurate. I'm just wondering if anythng other than rail blue is anything else appropiate without the front-end modifications? Thanks.
    Jon
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    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
    by brian daniels
     
    original page on Old RMweb
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:51 am
     


    Ian G wrote:
    Link to the siphon photo's viewtopic.php?f=7&t=39401
     
    ian G
    Ian, thanks very much . will be very helpful
    Rob.
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    ??? posted on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:08 pm
     


    Christian wrote:
    I have just invested in a new camera so to try it out I took some wagons outside in the gloom to see what it's like.

    Nice photos Brian, what camera have you got?
     
    Christian Just bought a Nikon D300 18-200mm lens. I am still sorting out what does what on it The main thing I did though was increase the sharpening to max, always think railway stuff looks better sharper. I had been thinking should I get one of these or not for ages then I read that Nikon are upping their prices in March so I had to make my mind up now. Be nice to see some pics in sunshine one day.
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    ??? posted on Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:18 pm
     
    Here are a few more wagon pics which I am using to take pictures at different settings on the new camera to try them out so the quality might be a bit variable at the moment. I do have 3 inners for the freightliners to make a 5 set but not many containers. You can't get any transfers for the 1970's firms. I would love someone to do the original Freightliner containers in grey and red.
     
    As for Jon's question on the Heljan 37 I believe you could do 37116 in L/L but you should take the roof ribs off to be correct. Apart from that it's green and banger blue.
     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    ??? posted on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:17 pm
     
    Some more that I did to go with my steam and green diesels. Just get away with them behind a top's blue one though, although they should have tops codes on them.The first one is an ABS GW conflat as this was done before the Slaters one was around. Naxt a Freightman SR van. Then a DJB Mogo van. Then a DA medfit and finally a Slaters conflat. A couple of pics of them together as well. I changed the setting in the camera to take B&W but I can't see any advantage than if you modified a colour pic in Photoshop.
     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm
     
    Brian,Brian,Brian, what can i say ,other than EXELLENT . I love the conflats with containers. Who's are they ( i know there yours ) i mean which manufacturer. Ooops just re-read your thread . Are the containers slaters
    Rob
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    ??? posted on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:44 pm
     
    Yes Rob the containers are Slaters. I did scratchbuild one as a plywood plain sided one. I will phot it when I find it! I do have a few more boxes of wagons to take pictures of. All these wagons were made quite a few years ago with just a basic bit of weathering from the air brush but they look fine going round the garden or some continuous layout.
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    Comment posted by Dan Randall on Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:25 am
     
    Nice work Brian.
     
    I've always had a soft spot for rakes of Conflat wagons and your rake does look rather nice. I'd like to see your scratch-built plywood container when you find it please and am surprised that Slater's haven't added one to their range.
     
    I also like the Ford Anglias on the Lowfits - nice attention to detail with the ropes and protective cushions. Can you tell me who makes the model Anglias please (and do you know which other cars of that era they make, if any?).
     
    Regards
     
    Dan
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    Comment posted by dibateg on Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:48 am
     
    Hi Brian -
    thanks for posting the pics of the fitted wagons, the conflat line up is excellent. When spraying the vans, do you do the bodies first and then mask up to do the underframes and roof? I have 12 vans I'm working on at the moment in the workshop currently being sprayed.
     
    regards
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    ??? posted on Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:27 pm
     
    The Anglia's were Vangard models, they do loads of the period.
     
    I sprayed the bauxite first if I remember then a little bit of brush painting on the ribs down over the solebars.
     
    I do have some more conflats so I will take a picture of them all together later.
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    Comment posted by Dan Randall on Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:25 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    The Anglia's were Vangard models, they do loads of the period.
    Thanks Brian - I'll have to check those out soon.
     
    Regards
     
    Dan
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    ??? posted on Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:38 pm
     
    Some more Conflat pics , both ABS and Slaters. And my scratchbuilt plywood container. The LNER steel open is an ABS whitemetal one. The container is in a Slaters plastic LNER open that I notices the plastic strip tiebar is broke. Oh well
     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by hmrspaul on Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:40 pm
     


    hmrspaul wrote:
    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    hmrspaul wrote:
    Trainshed Terry wrote:
    I have looked high and low for a picture of these wagons running in the "Blue Circle" livery.
     
    Is there anyone here could help please.
     
    Terry.

    Which Blue circle livery?
     
    I am scanning more Presflo's but as there are a lot, and I'm tied up away from my scanner it will be a couple of weeks before I post.
     
    Quite a lot of OAA liveries are at
    BR Open AB (OAA) air brake open wagons - 24 photographs
    http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/show_col ... p?id=20791
     
    In a sentence the Yellow Livery.
     
    Terry.
     
    Paul
    The only one I can do is http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p5272724.html too early for me, I have a youthful memory of seeing a train of them - I think on the WCML when I was crossing it on the North London line at Willesden.
     
    Paul I have begun loading up more Presflo's, the nearest I have to the large plate Blue circle wagons is in the background of this one
    http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p56628755.html
    At least sufficient to show they persisted until 1975. I don't recollect this visit very well, I appear to have just taken a few photographs from the platform.
     
    Regards
     
    Paul
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    ??? posted on Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:31 am
     
    Very nice Paul, that lot should be very usefull for any one doing these kits from JLTRT. Love the pic of B8888888888888 or somewhere near that many 8's
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    Comment posted by Dan Randall on Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:45 pm
     
    Hi Brian
     
    Thanks for posting pictures of your scratch-built plywood container. You've made a good job of it and adds a nice bit of variety amongst your rake of planked containers.
     
    I think I'll have a go at one of these at some future date.
     
    Regards
     
    Dan
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    ??? posted on Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:17 am
     
    One thing I picked up at Kettering yesterday were some COVHOP transfers from Appleby. So I can at last put some on this wagon after about 5 years. Pic of an unfitted one in one of Dave Larkins books with this BIS SAND logo. Oh if only JLTRT would do the fitted ones.
     

     
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:21 am
     
    Nice one Brian.
     
    If you can't persuade PW, then what chance do us mere mortals stand!
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    Comment posted by Grimleygrid on Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:56 am
     
    Excellent photos, the FGA Freightliner wagons look very nice indeed.
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:56 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    One thing I picked up at Kettering yesterday were some COVHOP transfers from Appleby. So I can at last put some on this wagon after about 5 years. Pic of an unfitted one in one of Dave Larkins books with this BIS SAND logo. Oh if only JLTRT would do the fitted ones.
    Great wagon there Brian.I saw you a couple of times at Kettering,was going to say hello but you looked like you were in deep conversation, one with Pete . I will say hello next time mate if you are'nt busy (at shepshead/halifax or the old trusted Telford.). Exellent work, Could we see some parcels pleeeeease
    Rob.
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    ??? posted on Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:16 pm
     
    Have to say hello at Telford Rob. I WILL take a pic of my parcels stuff but it ain't much.
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:24 pm
     
    Will do mate. Did you have a word with Pete and order your pair of 20's .
    Rob
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    ??? posted on Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:39 pm
     
    I should hopefully have a 20 for demoing at the Ally Pally show at the end of March, or so he said. Lets wait and see.
     
    I was picking his brains on what's being doing next. He said the 26 should be at the end of the year As I said earlier I must try and get him to do a covhop.
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    ??? posted on Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:24 pm
     
    Having a rest from wagons at the moment and making a start on a DJH skinhead 31. Must get it looking like a loco for the Ally Pally show in a couple of weeks. All the overlays have been superglued on this one, I managed to solder them all on a couple of earlier 31's but I was hving an off day today and they got glued on, it was that, or it was going out of the window The discs are from JLTRT as they have a couple of pips on the back to fix them to the front unlike the etched ones supplied in the kit.
     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:33 pm
     
    Very interesting Brian . What number and hopefully it's in banger blue
    Rob
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    Comment posted by F-UnitMad on Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:45 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    All the overlays have been superglued on this one, I managed to solder them all on a couple of earlier 31's but I was having an off day today and they got glued on, it was that, or it was going out of the window
    You've been getting too used to those Shake-the-Box JLTRT kits, haven't you Brian..
     
    I wondered why I'd missed this thread when I saw "Class 31" in the title... I didn't bother to follow all the wagons before it, that's why!!
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    Comment posted by d7093 on Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:07 pm
     
    I'll be following this with interest as ever Brian, as i have one of these i need to build sooner more than later.
     
    Be interested on how you get on with supergluing the overlays, on previous DJH kits i've always soldered these on but it does make for a lot of extra work.
     
    Trevor.
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    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
    by brian daniels
     
    original page on Old RMweb
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    ??? posted on Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:28 pm
     
    Which one is it going to be? Well it will be blue and a unique one at that. I will take a pic tomorrow which should help you guess it.
     
    I will probably areldite the roof panels on as there is more of a chance that you are going to get gaps under the etches they should fill nicely with areldite. Super glue really needs a good flat mating surface to work.
     
    Mind you DJH are slipping, I have 2 grill castings missing and the wrong buffers included, round instead of oval.
     
    Jorden, you are right, you can't beat a bit of resin to work with Mind you I do like the motors and gears on these DJH locos. Very smooth running. Only drawback is they nearly break my back carting them round on my motorbike.
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:12 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Which one is it going to be? Well it will be blue and a unique one at that. I will take a pic tomorrow which should help you guess it.
     
    Will it be one that had an unofficial Stratford livery (blue with white stripes)
    Phill
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    Comment posted by Phil on Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:14 pm
     


    onslaught832 wrote:
    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Which one is it going to be? Well it will be blue and a unique one at that. I will take a pic tomorrow which should help you guess it.
     

    Will it be one that had an unofficial Stratford livery (blue with white stripes)
    Phill Could be 302 wih the extra grilles - pretty unique that one.
    Could be "Boadicea" which was also unique.
    How about 31101 which you could say was unique.
     
    Theres a few really, but 31121 is the number chosen for my 4mm skinhead.
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    ??? posted on Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:11 am
     
    Well looks like Phil guessed what it will be, although without the silly name on it. It was unique at the time as being a 80mph ETH machine and the only skinhead to have ETH. Of coarse being limited to 80mph would not be a problem for a 31 as you were lucky to get that much out of them Glued some roof etches on this morning and now waiting for some filler to cure. Still got to figure out how to illuminate the discs and be able to get at the bulbs.
     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:01 pm
     
    Oh thats a shame. I was willing it to be 31 005, just because it was one of my first skinheads i saw
    Rob
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    Comment posted by richard_t on Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:55 pm
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    Well looks like Phil guessed what it will be, although without the silly name on it. It was unique at the time as being a 80mph ETH machine and the only skinhead to have ETH. Of coarse being limited to 80mph would not be a problem for a 31 as you were lucky to get that much out of them Glued some roof etches on this morning and now waiting for some filler to cure. Still got to figure out how to illuminate the discs and be able to get at the bulbs.
    I was "reading", i.e. looking at the pictures, John Vaughan latest "Diesel Retrospective: Class 31" last night, and he has a picture of 31 418 which, as you, thought might be a interesting model.
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    Comment posted by DavidB on Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:20 pm
     
    Very tasty Brian - that's going to be one good looking Skinhead. I'm planning to make a model of Old Oak's 31117 (the one with the larger numbers) when I've finished my DJH 47/4, so I'm going to follow this build with interest - can't wait to see the finished loco! I still remember them hammering through Didcot on the Up Main with 3-van premium parcels trains - I'd never seen 31s go so fast, but then I guess they'd had 20 miles downhill from Swindon to wind themselves so that they could keep out of the way of the HSTs and 50s. Happy days!
     
    David
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    Comment posted by allegheny1600 on Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:52 pm
     
    WOW! Brian, your modelling is very inspiring - very well done!
    Back in the mid eighties, I confess that I sneered at class 31's - I thought they were worn out pieces of junk, amazing that they saw in the 21st century! Guess what? I now love them, just can't get enough and they may just be becoming (one of) my favourite British diesels!
    Can I ask about your outdoor track, please? Whose is it? I'm sure that at least some is laid on bitumen sheet (good!) but I just can't identify the track - it looks pretty darn good to me.
     
    Cheers,
    John E.
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    Comment posted by Phil on Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:13 am
     


    allegheny1600 wrote:
    WOW! Brian, your modelling is very inspiring - very well done!
    Back in the mid eighties, I confess that I sneered at class 31's - I thought they were worn out pieces of junk, amazing that they saw in the 21st century! Guess what? I now love them, just can't get enough and they may just be becoming (one of) my favourite British diesels!
    Quick nurse - more medication for the patient over there !!!
     
    Steady on John, those were the overweight, underpowered tanks that robbed us of the real type twos.
     
    Have to admit though that pairing them up, on passenger stock - they'd fly.
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    ??? posted on Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:45 am
     
    John, the track is Peco flat bottom. It's a lot stiffer than the bullhead track and the points cost a lot a more but it looks better with diesels running on it.
     
    All the roof panels are glued on with epoxy now and the bufferbeam has most of the details on. Just need to do the control desk area as this provides the front screw fixing for the bufferbeam. All the ETH equipment is lost wax castings from JLTRT. The steam pipe is one of their's as well as the DJH one does not have the bag around the handle area on it. For some reason the drivers side bufferbeam step on 31418 sticks out to the side. There are 19 little 0.5mm grab handles on the roof still to drill out, 38 little holes! Mind you after drilling all the 0.5mm holes on the skirts and not breaking one drill I feel the roof, as it's thicker will destroy a few.
     

     

     

     
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    ??? posted on Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:26 pm
     
    Got it some wheels now although this has thrown up one problem. The ETH box under the secondmans side is fouling the bogie big time. I have removed it at the moment until I can implement plan B. Mind you I still have to find out what plan B is There is still loads to do on the bogies. Also found that DJH packed the control/brake gear in the cab for a toffee apple version. Unfortunately the standard skinheads had the standard set up, so have ordered a set of replacements.
     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by allegheny1600 on Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:21 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
    Nice update and thanks for the track info, guess Peco do decent track after all! I thought at first it was Lenz (which is even more pricey!) but soon realised it was not.
     
    Phil,
    Yeah! I know, I know - the 31's were drafted in to replace our beloved rats, shame! Like I said I hated them in the eighties but I have over the years gone more eastern region anyway and the 31's have really grown on me!
     
    Cheers, Y'all
    John E.
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    Comment posted by F-UnitMad on Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:49 pm
     
    Very nice, Brian and quick work as always (well compared to some of us of course ...) one thing that I never realised was that the bottom of the buffer beam was curved- I always thought they were straight.
     
    I was never keen on Skinhead 31s... always preferred them with the headcode box for some strange reason but I did like the 'Finsbury Park' 31/4s with the white stripe along the side. 31 415 would be my 31 of choice... (It was later a Bescot machine).
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    Comment posted by Ohmisterporter on Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:04 pm
     
    I've just realized the styling strip around the body is welded on. I thought it was originally a painted line. Only ever seen it on the skinheads though. Which should give you an idea as to how observant I am. Seeing what you think is there rather that what really is there, and all that.
    Nice work as usual Brian.
     
    Geoff.
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    Comment posted by dibateg on Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:47 pm
     
    Looking good Brian - I could'nt believe the instructions, when they indicated that all the bolt heads for the skirts needed to be drilled! It was accomplished, but I can't remember how many casualties there were. I also had to increase the rebate on the inside of the body to bring the radiator grills more flush with the body side, but I think DJH might have revised the dody casting on later kits. I baulked at soldering the mid bodyside trim on and glued it with Evostick Timebond. I ended up putting two motors in after a single power bogie proved insufficient for heavy trains.
    I also preferred Derby 2s and was miffed when 31s replaced them on the West Coast section out of London!
     
    Regards
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:17 pm
     
    Exellent work Brian. . You amaze me how quick you solder up stuff. You make it look so easy. My soldering skills are very limited, i spend about 20mins soldering a piece in the wrong position, 20 mins re-positioning and soldering and about 4 weeks cleaning up affected area . Still fortunately JLTRT stuff is RESIN....... HOORRAAYYY . Again superb work Brian . Please keep sending those pics.
    Rob
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    ??? posted on Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:57 pm
     
    Well I had a count up and you have to drill 140 0.5mm holes in this body There's one drill left in it somewhere so I don't recon I did too bad. I was poking my drill into a candle after every couple of holes and it worked a treat really, the drill never clogged up with metal once. Anyway I got the replacement buffers today and the correct power handle/brake castings so I can get on and do the control desk and then I can screw the front of the bufferbeam into something to stop it drooping. Have done the fuel tanks as well now. Still a fair bit to do with the brake gear and bogie motorizing. I should have it with me at my demo at the Ally Pally show.
     
    DJH did change the rad grill etch to give the blades a bit more depth but it could still do with a being a bit closer to the edge of the body. It doesn't worry me that much.
     
    There is not much soldering on this Rob as all the etched overlays are glued on. The bogie inners are soldered up and a few wires soldered into castings but there is surprisingly little to do.
     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by F-UnitMad on Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:15 pm
     
    So why isn't it painted and weathered, yet?...
     
    Sorry Brian, couldn't resist... you work just as quickly it seems with metal as with resin kits...
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:49 pm
     
    coming along nicely Brian. Can't wait for the paint and weathering job.
    Rob
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    Comment posted by michael delamar on Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:10 pm
     
    looks brilliant!
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    ??? posted on Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:59 pm
     
    Thanks Mike. I have not done too much recently as last week I was a bit Tom & Dick and me and the toilet became very good friends I have done the brake gear and got it motorized now. Bogie sideframes to do and a little bit more on the ends. Still have to sort out the lighting as well. Oh well no rush!
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    Comment posted by michael delamar on Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:09 pm
     
    get well soon
     
    my uncle always used to say
     
    "take your time but hurry up"
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    Comment posted by baggiebloke on Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:13 pm
     
    Hi Brian
     
    Thanks for the further dose of inspiration!
     
    If I was to venture into O gauge, what loco kit would you recommend for me as a first go? I will probably try a wagon first to see how I take to the scale.
     
    Thanks
     
    Alex
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    ??? posted on Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:10 pm
     
    I have been ferreting away on this for the last couple of weeks doing a bit here and a bit there and at last I think it's finished Well all apart from 2 lifting lugs above the bogies that were missing in the kit and am waiting for replacements. I have sorted out how to get some illumination into the discs as well. This may well get a sound chip fitted. Don't know when I will get round to painting as I want to give a good run first on a couple of layouts to make sure everything works and that there is enough clearance between the bogies and the body.
     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by michael delamar on Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:55 pm
     
    that really is extremley nice work.
     
    im surprised youve put all the pipework on before painting? do you not normally paint them seperatley away from the loco?
     
    and the screwlink coupling, is that a djh or jltrt one and do you always use the ones supplied with the kits. or use another make?
     
    cheers
     
    Mike
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    Brian's 7mm Workbench JLTRT Class 26
     
    by brian daniels
     
    original page on Old RMweb
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    ??? posted on Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:15 pm
     
    Thanks Mike, the air pipes on the bufferbeam are rubber ones supplied with the kit that just pull off to paint it. One thing you must do with these rubber pipes though is anchor the bottom to a piece of wire or something similar or the air pipe sticks out like it's on steroids The couplings are from CPL and are the best you can get. I use these on DJH kits but as JLTRT supply one in the kit I tend to use theirs on the resin kits.
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:47 pm
     
    I tend to use the outer sheathing from thin multi core wire for my hoses as they tend to stay in place, when I finish my 33/1 a set of air pipes on the buffer beam will be able to connect to a rake of wagons/coaches.
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by 3 link on Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:09 pm
     


    baggiebloke wrote:
    Hi Brian
     
    Thanks for the further dose of inspiration!
     
    If I was to venture into O gauge, what loco kit would you recommend for me as a first go? I will probably try a wagon first to see how I take to the scale.
     
    Thanks
     
    Alex
    Hi Alex,
     
    If I were you I would go for a Slater's or Parkside Dundas wagon, or if your comfortable with soldering try one of Jim's at Connoisseur's a joy to build with good instructions. Check out his website http://www.jimmcgeown.com . Or Peco wonderful wagons are OK, and have working leaf springs,buffers and couplings. Brian sorry to go off topic but Alex has obviously seen the light , and wants to join in the best scale there is .
     
    Have fun, you won't regret it. Martyn.
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    Comment posted by OgaugeJB on Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:09 am
     
    The '31 is looking very nice! I've always thought them very handsome in a functional kind of way.. even better with hell and fury pouring out the top on full chat !!
     
    If I may, i'd totally agree with 3 link for Alex's needs to venture into 7mm. Jim's kits are a great starter place in brass having built 5 now...
     
    JB
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    Comment posted by michael delamar on Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:20 am
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
    The couplings are from CPL and are the best you can get. I use these on DJH kits but as JLTRT supply one in the kit I tend to use theirs on the resin kits.
    cheers Brian
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    ??? posted on Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:41 pm
     
    I have had this loco finished now for a couple of weeks but one reason I had not painted it yet was that the side rad grills were worrying me. As the kit comes the fold-up etch louvres are too shallow and leave the grills sitting in the body recess and left an unsightly gap between the grill and the bodyside strip going over it. After visiting Shackerstone yesterday and having a look at 31101 I decided to do the same as I did on my 31270 and file the edge of the etch grills right down and open out the body casting a little so the grills are now "wedged" into the recess rather than fitted behind it. Makes a big differance I think. A couple of pictures of the before and after.
     

     

     

     

     
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:28 am
     
    Hi Brian, yes i see what you mean . But now that you have altered it ,it looks alot better. Well worth the effort there mate
    Rob
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:12 am
     
    That looks very good Brian.
     
    Ian G
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    Comment posted by dibateg on Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:42 am
     
    I had to do the same on my 31 Brian - I spent ages carving out the rebate on the inside of the body to reduce the inset appearance. I probably did'nt get my grills to come out as much as yours though, just having examined my photos. It does look a lot better when done. So I expect to see it in blue soon!
     
    Regards
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    Comment posted by F-UnitMad on Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:51 pm
     
    Grilles, eh...??? glad I'm not the only one !!!
    That is a big improvement, and as you said to me, Brian, once you've noticed something's not right it just sticks out at you and it has to be corrected...
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    ??? posted on Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:06 pm
     
    I forgot I had this workbench thread going or I would have put the 20 build in here. Anyway I am putting this pic up incase anyone needs any wagon vac pipes. On my JLTRT Presflo's I got hold of these casting from Slaters. They are part number 7062 from their wagon BR kits and have their working vac pipe and lamp brackets on it. Both of which need changing on the Presflo's. This reminds me I must paint the 31!
     
     
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    ??? posted on Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:20 am
     
    Well seeing as it's a nice day I have been in the garden with the camera to take a few pictures of my blue parcels train. A couple of the SR PMV's still need a bit more doing to the weathering but they are ok for the time being. Two of them were green but I got a couple of sets of transfers that Dan Randell had done for blue stock so I brushed them with Railmatch put the transfers on then varnished them with a satin coat. Not too bad a job, looks better than green. On the van S1327 I found in a box, can't remember doing it, I used the HMRS CCT lettering as that was all you could get that "looked" ok. From 20 paces going round the garden you can't tell.
     
     
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    Comment posted by Dan Randall on Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:08 am
     
    Hi Brian
     
    I've always had a soft spot for parcels trains with their mixed bag of vehicles and your train looks spot on. The only thing missing is one or two inside framed Siphon Gs (the ones with the sliding vents on the sides). Perhaps you could lean on Pete Waterman to include a Siphon G in his range?
     
    Excellent weathering by the way - I shall be taking another look at your vans when I come to weather my PMV.
     
    Regards
     
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    Comment posted by Phil on Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:31 am
     


    Dan Randall wrote:
    Hi Brian
     
    I've always had a soft spot for parcels trains with their mixed bag of vehicles and your train looks spot on. The only thing missing is one or two inside framed Siphon Gs (the ones with the sliding vents on the sides).
    Or the Stanier 50' BG
     


    Dan Randall wrote:
    Perhaps you could lean on Pete Waterman to include a Siphon G in his range?
     
    Excellent weathering by the way - I shall be taking another look at your vans when I come to weather my PMV.
     
    Regards
     
    Dan
    Absolutely great Bri
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    Comment posted by DavidB on Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:41 am
     
    That's superb Brian, simply superb. Cracking train, cracking locos, cracking paint jobs - but I never thought you'd show a Western assisting your 31 - is the army of 7mm hydraulic fans on RMWeb finally winning you over?
     
    David
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:55 pm
     
    Very nice Brian & as has been said a Syphon G or Stanier BG or for that matter an ex-LNER vehicle would be nice additions to what is already a tasty parcels train
    Phill
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:53 pm
     
    Great stuff Brian . Your parcels train looks superb. Exellent weathering as well. The 40 looks great,but the western looks the best , especially towing the failed 31 . Well done mate great modelling. PS thanks for posting pic of western
    Rob.
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:44 pm
     
    Hi Brian , what is the vehicle after the two PMV's
    Phill
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    Comment posted by Fat Controller on Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:53 pm
     


    onslaught832 wrote:
    Hi Brian , what is the vehicle after the two PMV's
    Phill
    If another Brian may answer- it's an LNER 4-wheel CCT. Parkside do a 4mm model- not sure who does the 7mm one. This train's a cracking bit of work!
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    Comment posted by OgaugeJB on Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:16 pm
     
    Spectacular Brian! Great work as usual..!!
     
    JB.
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    ??? posted on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:40 am
     
    Don't look a bad train does it shame I did not have time to actualy run it The odd van is a LNER CCT I am sure there was a thread on here a couple of years ago about building one. I can't remember who did it but I think it was the guy's who did the resin VAA. I fitted Slaters SR W irons on it to make sure it stayed on the track. Not strictly the correct style but I'd rather run it. The buffers are from Hayward and the step brackets were also Slaters. I would like a LMS 50ft to go in this lot as it seems every parcel train had one in. I can remember seeing the siphon's in Didcot but I won't be worrying about one of them I'm affraid.
     
    Oh and by the way the Western failed in section as was being pushed by the 31
     
     
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    Comment posted by dibateg on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:51 am
     
    Takes me back to my spotting days in the 70s Brian - a motly selecttion of grubby vans - excellent!
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:14 am
     


    Brian Daniels wrote:
     
     
    Oh and by the way the Western failed in section as was being pushed by the 31
    A likely story
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    Comment posted by onslaught832 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:18 am
     
    Now look what you've done I've just been looking on Slaters website at Southern parcels vehicles........very nice they are too , but not before the Western
    Cheers Phill
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:00 pm
     


    onslaught832 wrote:
    Brian Daniels wrote:
     
     
    Oh and by the way the Western failed in section as was being pushed by the 31

    A likely story I think not. More like the 31 was just not capable of such a train so they fetched a PROPER loco and i will be having words with you at Telford if you are there, to remind you how great WESTERNS are . Again exellent work Brian
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    ??? posted on Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:53 pm
     
    Think you got the reason, 31 just not powerfull enough Looks like we will have to have a meaningfull discusion at Telford then
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:22 am
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    just been catching up with postings after a few days in Oxford.
     
    Great train, shame that you went off of the SR green though!! would have been better with some heavy weathering.
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    ??? posted on Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:53 pm
     
    I have finished building my 5 JLTRT Presflo's so I took a couple of pics of them under my US grain terminal. Well it's the closest I can get to a cement terminal. Then I started the weathering process. I sprayed them in satin varnish and sprinkled cement powder over them. Then more varnish to seal it. Still a bit more to do on them but it's a start. Do I keep one ex works? I see I need a bit more cement on the end of one them.
     
     
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:57 am
     
    Very impressive Brian
    Rob
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    Comment posted by Trainshed Terry on Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:52 pm
     
    I do hope that you will be leaving one in ex-works condition.
     
    Great work.
     
    Terry.
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    Comment posted by dikitriki on Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:28 pm
     
    Hi Brian
     
    Presflos are superb.
     
    Is it possible to complete the wagon before painting? Or better to follow the guidance in the instructions and paint as you go along? I'm trying to get my head round how far you can go before you have to start painting.
     
    Regards
     
    Richard
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    ??? posted on Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:01 pm
     
    Richard, I built these in 2 parts, the hopper and the chassis separate. It all holds together nicely as you build up the underframe just remember not to pick it up just by the hopper. I attached the end supports and vac cylinders and end ladder on the hopper then sprayed the lot bauxite then brushed the bottom of the hopper black. I built all the chassis up and sprayed black then a little masking to spray the top and bufferbeam bauxite. When your done superglue the 2 halfs together. It worked for me, 5 times
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    ??? posted on Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:00 pm
     
    Added a bit of brake dusting on the bottom of these now and some oily paint around the brake gear and buffer heads. I am afraid the clean one has a little weathering on it.
     
     
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    ??? posted on Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:55 pm
     
    Got hold of a JLTRT 26 kit at Telford which some of you may have seen me trying to build on the JLTRT stand. Unfortunately having only picked it up half an hour before the show opened I was a bit limited as to what I could do until after I had drilled a few holes here and there on Saturday night. Anyway here are some pics of it nearing completion. I still need a few castings to finish it.
     
    This is the third time I have tried to put this thread on here So I will only put one pic up for now.
     
     
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:12 pm
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    does this mean that the 33 is not far off - the Guildford Group's Reading Trade show perhaps?
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    ??? posted on Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:36 pm
     
    I don't know Mike but Pete did say he hopes the 27 should be done for Warley.
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    Comment posted by Ressaldar on Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:23 am
     
    Hi Brian,
     
    time for me to source a suitable 'anti-vapour' mask then!
     
    regards
     
    Mike
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    Comment posted by PCM on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:06 am
     
    Hi Brian,
    The class 26 looks bloody superb, Do you think it measures up alright I am planning to do a Lima 33 to 27 conversion using a Nigel Stanley kit, and although from pics I have seen it builds up into a nice model, I was wondering how wide is your 26 As the old lima model is a bit wide. I am toying with the idea of cutting the body down the middle and making it the right width, but if it's only out by a little bit I might save myself some work.
     
    Many thanks Peter,
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    Comment posted by Simon Moore on Moore</STRONG> on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:13 am
     
    Great work as always Brian these kits really keep tempting me in to O gauge. The 26 looks amazing what livery are you going to be doing it in br blue??
     
    Simon.
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    Comment posted by Grimleygrid on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:41 am
     
    Wow that 26 really does look superb, I look forward to seeing it painted and weathered.
     
    If only JLTRT would do a 56 or 60!
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    Comment posted by DavidB on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:47 am
     
    That's one beautiful McRat Brian - and one of IS's finest too . Can't wait to see it multi-ed with your IS 24. Those Highland 26s had a real charisma about them - for this Oxfordshire boy, there was nothing to beat turning up on the sleeper at Inverness to find baby Sulzers burbling away in the Far North platforms as the Scottish rain dripped down endlessly. Wonderful - I'm seriously going to have to start saving for one of these kits.
     
    David
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    Comment posted by F-UnitMad on Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:34 pm
     


    ... what livery are you going to be doing it in br blue??
     
    Is there any other livery...?!?!
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    ??? posted on Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:39 pm
     
    This 26 is going to be blue 26022 as I had a bit of a problem with my headlights. I was going to do 26032 that has wider headlights than most. So I drilled the lights in the ends and looked at pics of 26032 again and realized it had wide lights at one end and standard width lights at the other Looking through more pics I found 26022 had wide ones at both ends, phew Only trouble is that 022 has it's centre headcode discs in the centre line and not to the left like the kit came. So I had to move them over and fill the holes. It's going to be a few weeks until I get the bits to finish it unfortunatly. By the way there are some etch covers to go over the cantrail grills that I will glue on after it's been painted and weathered behind the grills. I have ordered some class 26 data panel from Precission Labels together with the lettering that St Rollox put next to the fire pulls on the body side. This will be fitted with a sound chip and working headlights!
     
     
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    Comment posted by alcazar on Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:07 pm
     
    That photo of the 26 showing the lights is interesting. They are Lucas 7" lights, the one one the right as we look at it looks like the LR700 driving light, and the one on the left looks like a foglight
     
    Those LR700's were like gold dust in my rallying days.
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    Comment posted by Ian G on Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:34 pm
     
    thats looking good Brian.
     
    ian G
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    ??? posted on Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:49 am
     
    Well I have'nt done too much to the 26 of late as I am waiting for some castings to finish it off still. I did get some from JLTRT recently though. I asked for a pipe casting from their peak kit to go in between the boiler and fuel tanks. Fills the hole up there a bit. I have added the bogie brake pipes on the side of the bogies. A couple of people have asked about the lights I will use so here are a couple of pics of it lit up. I use small grain of rice 16v bulbs from Miniatronics which are a US firm. I mount them in ally tube, poking the bulbs in from the cab insides. The wires will be sent across the floor and through a hole in the bottom of the rear bulkhead. You can't see them in normal viewing angles. I have got another set of snow ploughs now to do the other end at last. I do keep looking at it and thinking what else I could add but I think it's about there, apart from the extra castings I am waiting for.
    I have added a couple of pics of the extra bits in the kit to do the air tanks and the bolster castings for a 26/0.
     
     
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    Comment posted by alcazar on Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:43 pm
     
    Brian: you seem to prefer bulbs to LEDs, can you say why? Is it a colour thing? I'd have thought that LEDs would have been the modeller's choice due to longevity, low heat output and low current draw?
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    ??? posted on Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:18 pm
     


    alcazar wrote:
    Brian: you seem to prefer bulbs to LEDs, can you say why? Is it a colour thing? I'd have thought that LEDs would have been the modeller's choice due to longevity, low heat output and low current draw?
    I like them mainly for the correct colour they give out. Current draw has never been an issue in O Gauge and niether is longevity as I have never blown one, yet! The only thing against them is heat which is why I use the 16v Miniatronics bulds. On 12v they won't get as hot. I have not had a meltdown yet. I don't leave locos with the lights on very long though.
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    Comment posted by Bob-65B on Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:50 pm
     
    That's looking the business Brian! - What did you use for the headlights? (for the headlight shell) I have just the application
     
    Bob.
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    Comment posted by lancer1027 on Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:00 am
     
    Great work Brian. I do like it
    Rob
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