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Prototype & OO scale SR & BR(S) EMUS, Later rebuilt and moderately converted (as per SR/BR) back to BR(S) Steam, with more than a passing interest in all things S&DJR.
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My guess ? Hmmm.. Let's see.. A 2-NOL Emu, based on their re-built L&SWR stock.
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The human side of the railway...
Ceptic replied to Rugd1022's topic in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)
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R to L, car 2 definitely Kitchen side of a rebuilt Tavern RKB, Diag. 2668. Car 5 has extended side panels, but, with middle(ish) footstep/cutout, along with shallow (10 1/4") window vents, so, probably one from a Bournemouth 6-car set. The Tavern sets' RCOs, Diag. 2665 had, along with extended side panels, deeper (15") window vents and end vestibule doors only.
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Graham, many thanks to you, along with Bachmann, for this very descriptive update. One question I'd like to ask tho'. Has Bachmann given any thought to the number of roof rain-strips per side, per coach, per era ? , as Hornby did on their 59 footers. I.e. Two per side on SR versions and one per side on later BR. One last nit-pick is that the EP's rain-strips look to be a tad low, especially at the ends, as were Bachmann's original versions. At the very least, these coaches are, certainly, going to brighten up the New Year. Merry Christmas, Frank.
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Thanks Bob. I did some researching myself back in the late 1960s/70s when I was preparing some of the MRC Bulleid coach drawings. A few of the green 3-H 'Hampshire' DEMUs did acquire the 1st. class stripe (more cream than yellow), about the time the roof mounted air-horns appeared.
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The rebuilt Bulleid ex-Tavern Cars (RBKs) had the red stripe applied in the early 60s, as did the Mk.1 RB replacements in the Bournemouth 6-car Bulleid sets.
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No Trevor, In a roundabout way, I was referring to the 'missing' exaggerated roof panel joints Hornby are so keen on.
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Have those roofs been photoshopped ??.
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It might be worth giving Bachmann a call and ask them 'which colours were used on their 31-520, NSE Cl.159 ?' https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/product/category/183/class-159-3-car-dmu-159013-br-network-southeast-(revised)/31-520 Both prototype unit classes (442 &159) shared the same BR/ NSE colours. All the best.
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I knew I had a closer-up pic. somewhere.
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Pedantic mode (On) :- The 1979 Airfix catalouge snippet shows a Bulleid CK with 10" deep window ventilators, whereas the Bachmann versions are based on the BR(S) built stock which had 15" deep sliding vents. Pedantic mode (Off). More here https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/16850-new-batch-of-bulleid-coaches/ All the best.
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LH ('near') side cab windows were wider than the 'off' side.
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Hi If any of you get the opportunity, have a look at the colour swatches contained within the HMRS publication "Southern Style After Nationalisation, 1948-1964" by John Harvey. You'll see that the swatch for 'BR Express Locomotive Blue (Merchant Navy class)' is of a much darker hue. Azure Blue it ain't. It's more akin to RAL 5013, Cobalt Blue. This is the colour that I remember. Also the lining on the Blue MNs was 'Bold'. I.e. 1/4" White + 1 1/4" Black + 1/4". No gaps. Initially, during the experimental stages on MN No. 35024 East Asiatic Company , this
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The A4's boiler band lining in that photo is Black + White. Probably that's the reason.
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Guage 1 ?, RTR ? ?, from Hornby ? ? ?, for How much ? ? ? ?
Ceptic replied to Ceptic's topic in Rails of Sheffield
EeUurrh, I see what you mean. I now wish it had been just an April fool. Cheers John.