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    Bulleid Coaches

    in Bachmann

    Posted

    Bachmann appear to be persisting with the battle-ship sized "Rivets" around the main-lights' sliding vents, both 10 1/4" and 15" types. Prototypically these are, in fact, 1/4"Dia. dome / round headed screws, barely discernible in model form.

     

    Regards,

    Rivet Counters Anonymous Inc.

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    Hornby Class 423 4-VEP

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    13 minutes ago, NickL2008 said:

    That is a pity as I was maybe thinking of preordering one, but those cab ends still dont look right, with the jumper cable recessess they lack the subtle curve on the outside and are just flat which is what makes them look odd. the vents to me look a little "squashed" as well .That headlight would be a nightmere to remove without a repaint on the front, a shame Hornby havnt addressed that, despite their ES post acknowledging their initial release had errors on it. So itll be a no fro mme unless they correct these things

     

    NL

    Not only did the cable recesses feature a subtle curved outer edge, the front cab widows did also, tapering in from bottom (1'-6"/457mm. wide) to top (1'-5"/432mm. wide). In plan view (Looking down) the cab ends were one continuous curve from rounded corner to rounded corner, not made up of three flat panels. 

     

    Regards.

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    3D printed Southern Electrics

    in Southern Electrics

    Posted · Edited by Ceptic
    Deletion of superfluous images

     

    On 04/02/2021 at 07:31, 34017Ilfracombe said:

    Thanks for the suggestions and I am following up the High Level option, which could avoud the problem of the motor housing intruding into the coach interior.

    I have successfully used a mix of etched sides and 3D printed ends on previous projects but I could not get etched sides to bend to match precisely the Bulleid Subs' characteristic profile and high roofline, even after 3D printing a press for the specific purpose.

    My concern had been that it would not be possible to 3D print sides thin enough for flush glazing but an experiment with the 1945-type augmentation trailer in my 1925 bull-nosed Sub unit has worked out well (though my first attempts at spray painting have worked out less well!)

    Although these coaches were built using traditional methods with a wood and canvas roof, the profile is the same as the 1946 all-steel units and the model has the high roofline but with a plastic strip added at cantrail level and the area above painted grey.

    Next on the stocks is a 4111-series all-steel Sub.

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    On 04/08/2021 at 10:20, 34017Ilfracombe said:

    Trying to fit the body of 4111 to a pair of Hornby 2 Hal underframes, modified to close-couple at the inner ends, has convinced me that this is NOT the way forward!  The model is almost complete (though not yet fit to be photographed) and it will be OK in the end - it was just a lot of hard work!

     

    Instead, it was back to the drawing board to design bespoke underframes, bogies, etc. so as to make up a complete kit, less motors.  I have been working with Tim Evans of CW Railways to set up a joint venture to produce and market these models and - ta-da! - we are today launching Eastleigh Model Rail (eastleighmodelrail.co.uk) with an initial range of post-war all-steel 4 Subs (both the final 'standard' 4621 type and an earlier version with an all-compartment layout and EE339 motors), 'Tin Hal's and the unique 2700.

     

    The complete kits are inevitably rather pricey but we offer the option of only buying the bits you need for those who want to do their own thing.  Re-scaling to 2mm may also be an option - contact Tim through the website to discuss possibilities.

     

    Bulleid-type EPBs and HAPs are in the pipeline, as are some older EMUs - more anon.

     

    Do please have a look at our website at eastleighmodelrail.co.uk and let us know what you think.  Ideas welcome!

     

    Stephen Grant

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    Hi ,  This pic may help.

    I note that your illustrations, so far, show rather small radii applied to the corners of the door droplights and to the compartment quarterlights. These were quite generous prototypically, and different. The photo also shows the cornice convergence between bodyside and roof,

     Regards

     

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    Class 442 - Finally back in service on the LSWR.

    in UK Prototype Discussions (not questions!)

    Posted

    On 01/04/2021 at 12:59, Nearholmer said:

    Refit the interiors in luxury style, paint them brown and cream, and re-designate as 5-BEL-MkII, then run them at premium fares for people who value komfort and kippers.

     

    (Actually, that might not be such a daft idea - I'm thinking Saturday and Sunday excursions from London to the coast, especially this year if there are to be no foreign holidays. Whitstable, Rye (blast - no juice for the last bit!), Eastbourne, Brighton, Bournemouth, Weymouth, those sorts of destinations)

     

     

    Already considered, eleven years ago.

    Now, which name would you prefer ?, as pictured ? or something more classy ?, say 'Porcia' ?

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    3D printed Southern Electrics

    in Southern Electrics

    Posted · Edited by Ceptic

    Hello 34017,

     

       You may remember the sorely missed, master modeller Colin Parks (RIP) producing a series of topics, during which he described his standard setting, exquisite. scratch-built 4mm./1ft. S.Region Emus.

    In doing so he amassed a wealth of information. A considerable amount being contributed by members of RMweb.

    For anyone with an interest in modelling SR / BR(S) 3rd. rail, Colin's models must be recognised as the best*.

     

    Links to the two unit types of interest here, are :-

    Tin HAL.

    https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/62883-tin-hal/

     

    4-SUB.

    https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75582-4-sub-unit-4377-bulleid-2-hap-upgrade-plus-all-matters-third-rail/

     

    *Now, if anyone is up to producing kits (or RtR he says, hopefully) to this high standard, I, for one would, certainly, be interested.

     

    All the best.

    Frank.

     

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    Is this a Tavern Car?

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted · Edited by Ceptic

    R to L, car 2 definitely Kitchen side of a rebuilt Tavern RKB, Diag. 2668.

    Car 5 has extended side panels, but, with middle(ish) footstep/cutout, along with shallow (10 1/4") window vents, so, probably one from a Bournemouth 6-car set.

    The Tavern sets' RCOs, Diag. 2665 had, along with extended side panels, deeper (15") window vents and end vestibule doors only.

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    Bulleid Coaches

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    Posted

    On 23/12/2020 at 08:23, Graham_Muz said:

    I have been able to take a close look and handle the first stunning EPs and my views are below. 

    https://grahammuz.com/2020/12/23/Bachmann-bulleid-coaches-engineering-prototypes-arrive/

     Graham, many thanks to you, along with Bachmann, for this very descriptive update.

     

    One question I'd like to ask tho'.  Has Bachmann given any thought to the number of roof rain-strips per side, per coach, per era ? , as Hornby did on their 59 footers.  I.e. Two per side on SR versions and one per side on later BR.

    One last nit-pick is that the EP's rain-strips look to be a tad low, especially at the ends, as were Bachmann's original versions.

     

    At the very least, these coaches are, certainly, going to brighten up the New Year.

    Merry Christmas, Frank.

    Hornby 2020 range mk1 RB

    in Hornby

    Posted

    32 minutes ago, Phatbob said:


    IIRC from when I researched this, red stripes on catering vehicles and yellow stripes on first class first appeared in 1962.  Loco hauled coaches and EMUs got them retrofitted, but it appears that green DMUs didn't for some unfathomable reason.  Yellow stripes did appear on DMUs when repainted into blue.
    HTH

     

    Thanks Bob.

    I did some researching myself back in the late 1960s/70s when I was preparing some of the MRC Bulleid coach drawings.

    A few of the green 3-H 'Hampshire' DEMUs did acquire the 1st. class stripe (more cream than yellow), about the time the roof mounted air-horns appeared.

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    Hornby 2020 range mk1 RB

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    Posted · Edited by Ceptic
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    The rebuilt Bulleid ex-Tavern Cars (RBKs) had the red stripe applied in the early 60s, as did the Mk.1 RB replacements in the Bournemouth 6-car Bulleid sets.

     

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    The Engine Shed

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    Posted · Edited by Ceptic

    5 hours ago, trevor7598 said:

    No. I don't do photoshop. Both coaches are fresh from works,

    so the silver-grey colour is natural.

     No Trevor, In a roundabout way, I was referring to the 'missing' exaggerated roof panel joints Hornby are so keen on. :banghead:

    The Engine Shed

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    On 25/09/2020 at 15:16, trevor7598 said:

    Good to see the Mk 1 Restaurant Buffet cars coming along.

     

    The vehicles Hornby have modelled are later builds with separate Beclawat windows,

    the sliding lights of which should represent unpainted aluminium. Certainly the batch

    delivered to the Southern were like this.

    It is likely that by the time Blue & Grey came along the sliders would have been painted over.

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    Have those roofs been photoshopped ??.

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