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I am no signalling expert, so won't comment on details, but it might be important to have more information. Which railway built and operated the station, and when is it set as signalling arrangements might vary over time, cheers

The Parcels Sector was rebranded as RES in 1991. Here are more photos from Flickr taken at Barton Hill From Flickr by DMC1947 taken inside one of the sheds Feb 1992. (I searched for Barton Hill 1992) Searching Flickr for 'Barton Hill 1996' this came up From Flickr by Alan Bark. This shows the former GWR broad gauge shed, much amended and now used for loco exam and service. The former Midland sheds are to the left and slightly below this view. cheers

Have a look at Barton Hill in Bristol. The depot there had a complicated history. Originally two separate loco sheds side by side (one Midland Railway, the other GWR broad gauge). After they closed as steam sheds they were used as carriage and wagon workshops for decades. When Sectorisation of BR took place Barton Hill became part of RES and took over maintenance of the parcel fleet for the WR and beyond. Later when Bath Road loco depot closed the fuelling and exam of RES class 47s took place. There are photos on Flick, I searched for 'Barton Hill RES). This from Flickr taken in 2000 by Steve McMullin Looking the other way another view of Barton Hill. From Flickr posted by Jeremy de Souza LRPS, but possibly taken by the late Mike Miller. cheers

Have the freight propelled in to the depot from the local yard which is just off-scene 'up the line'. You might, or might not, need a brake van at the front of the propelling move depending on local circumstances as shown in the Sectional Appendix. In the Bristol area in the 1980s freight traffic was propelled from Lawrence Hill yard along the freight only Avonside Branch for about a mile to Avonside Wharf, there being no run-round facilities at Avonside. Also in Avonmouth the Rowntrees warehouse at Avonmouth was served by a trip working that then propelled back (right line) for about two miles to Hallen Marsh due to the track layout at Avonmouth. Both moves required a brake van at the front of the movement in which shunters and guard rode as they both crossed gated road crossings. cheers

In the 1970s and 1980s Barnstaple had a weekday train service of seven or eight trains (much less than today). Generally the services were worked by DMUs, but with one or two loco hauled services in each direction. The May 1976 WTT showed a couple of loco hauled trains. The 07.35 Barnstaple to Exeter St Davids was a loco hauled mixed train for which special instructions were included in the Sectional Appendix, as well as mk1 carriages the train conveyed former Fruit Ds and was restricted to 45 mph, (the loco got to Barnstaple working a freight service). The 16.00 Exeter St Davids to Barnstaple was loco hauled mk1 set, this set returned as the 17.35 Barnstaple to Exeter St Davids passenger and milk. cheers

My memory was that in 1986/87 the Speedlink Coal Network was established. Though some remote coal depots were still served by local trips off the Speedlink network at that stage. Later the name was changed to Network Coal to further differentiate from Speedlink. My impression at the time was that it was ridiculous to separate two traffic types onto separate networks, many terminals (both coal depots and general freight customers) barely warranted a daily service, so to split resources into two seemed madness to me. At the time I was merely a lower grade clerical officer in WR HQ at Swindon, but use of the TOPS system made it obvious to me that the traffic was not there. cheers

I don't have any WR WTTs for 1973/74, but I do have some for 1976/77. Back then there was a Mandatory WTT and a Conditional WTT for each Division. Quite a few of the Conditional freight trains did run each day, though others were more by customer request or traffic demand. The WR London Division Mandatory WTT is PA, you would also need the London Division Conditional WTT PF which contains some of the freight workings. One observation. By 1987/88 Acton Yard had more or less ceased to deal with wagon load traffic, (it never became a proper part of the Speedlink Network), but was then used as a hub principally for aggregate traffic from the Mendips, cheers

When I joined BR in 1977 the WR civil engineers had no bogie rail carrying vehicles with vacuum brakes, (or air brakes either). A few of the Sturgeons were vac piped code YBP, likewise a few of the Ganes were piped code YLP, and some of the Salmons were piped code YMP. cheers

I get the impression that you have given quite a bit of thought to the back story for the Nottingham Extension. The question as to whether there was an engine shed at Stanley would depend on a number of factors including where the first train of the day starts from. Another factor would be who built the Stanley branch? If it was promoted by a small local company there is more chance they would have provided a shed for their loco at their terminus. If the LNWR promoted and built the line then perhaps more likely they would have resourced the line from their nearest existing loco shed? cheers

On Thursday we visited Parke NT, and as usual walked around part of the estate including along the track bed of the former Moretonhampstead branch towards the north. This was our first visit for some time and when we reached the end of the cleared path the skew bridge over a minor public road (just North of Pullabrook Farm) has new timber fencing across it and the undergrowth has been cleared. It looked to me like the Wray Valley Trail is to be extended further north across the bridge towards Lustleigh,does anyone know if this is the case? Edit - I see the skew bridge is actually the Yeo Road Bridge, near to the site of Hawkmoor Halt, which was later renamed Pullabrook Halt. cheers

There were a number of vac-piped cokehops, we occasionally got a few of them on the coke traffic to Hallen Marsh. Since they generally arrived mixed in with the larger number of unfitted cokehops I suspect the pipes were seldom used, cheers

I have had a quick read through some of the wagon books I have by David Larkin, if I understand it right BR built new vacuum braked wagons coded Bogie Bolster E to replace the earlier Bogie Bolster A. These were TOPS code BEV, but many were quickly modified or rebuilt particularly for coil traffic. This must have meant that the earlier Bogie Bolster A were all withdrawn (or transferred to engineers use) before TOPS was introduced, thus freeing up the TOPS code BAA for the new air braked coil carriers, cheers

Bogie Bolster A was the code given to the shortest of the bogie vehicles, up to 35 feet length I believe. As such they were too short for the civil engineers to convey rails, which would have been in a minimum of 45' lengths by then. Edit - they might have been useful for shorter cut up scrap rail? As you have spotted Bogie Bolster A wagons that went to the civil engineers were used as runners and match wagons, have you had a look at the Paul Bartlett wagon photo site? TOPS codes for engineer and service vehicle fleet were Yxx for bogie vehicles. TOPS code YNO/YNP/YNV covered Prawn Shrimp and Whelk, but I think these were former Bogie Bolster C so were longer. If the civil engineers did take former Bogie Bolster A wagons for use carrying materials I would expect them to be coded either YNO/YNP/YNV depending on whether the vehicle was unfitted/vacuum piped/vacuum braked. TOPS code YSO/YSP/YSV covered miscellaneous operating vehicles like runner, match and ramp wagons which is what some Bogie Bolster A wagons became, cheers

Hi Andi, I have photographed the print of the photo I took in November 1983, sorry there is some reflected light. Ipswich Yard, 11/11/83. I don't have any photos of London Road bridge, I assume it was the bridge I was standing on to take the photo? I did take photos from the next bridge to the north, but much too far away see any detail of London Road bridge, cheers

Hi Andi. Do you mean this signal box? Photo off Flickr by Jamerail (Swindon 123 on RMweb). dated 7/2/84 I have found a photo of the box I took in November 1983, I can try to scan or photograph the print, and post it here if it is the right one. cheers

Yes I see it now, (though I admit my first thought was also Burton) I took a few photos at Nottingham in 1982 A tank train passing Nottingham behind 45016 25/3/82 cheers

50025 Invincible went into Doncaster Works for refurbishment on 3/2/82, so it must be before that date. Edit - if this is another photo from 1981 then it must be before 26/7/81 as Invincible had been bulled up prior to working the Doncaster Dart railtour. cheers

The traincrew depot and carriage sidings at Newton Abbot were closed late 1981 after the summer timetable had finished, possibly November 1981. This ties in with the reasoning for the date of the Liskeard photo, the date some time between May and November 1981, A Bath Road or Old Oak 31/1 is most likely, though there were visitors from further afield. cheers

Probably not quite the same thing, but at Exeter Central the only access to the carriage shed and sidings at the east end was from the down bay platform. This also gave access to a siding with coal merchants. This picture from Flickr shows the carriage shed, there are sidings passing either side of the Miller and Lilley warehouse on the right. Edit - here is another photo off Flickr by Tom Derrington. I think the coal sidings in the background could only be accessed from the down bay platform. cheers

What you have arrived at here, by accident or design, is a version of an 'inglenook' shunting puzzle with three sidings. A freight train running anti-clockwise can stop and shunt at the station. If shunting is something you enjoy then there could be a challenge in shunting a passing train to detach and attach traffic while getting wagons into the right siding. Clockwise trains are restricted to passenger services, but if a DMU became available then a realistic service is possible. cheers

Box, for Box bank cheers

Exmouth Junction, for the bank from Exeter St Davids to Central, Barnstaple Junction, for the bank up to Mortehoe & Woolacombe (from both directions) Taunton, for Wellington bank. cheers

Searching Flickr for 'B4 Southampton' this came up. Posted by Charlie Verrall of B4 no.96 Normandy, cheers

I just found this on Flickr when looking for something else. Cardiff Canton c1970 by John Turner cheers

Here are some more short formations. I think they might have appeared before on other threads. 6Z68 a Speedlink special working to Westbury (vice 6O68 Severn Tunnel Junction to Eastleigh) passes Stapleton Road behind 31121. 30/9/81 Speedlink trip from Exeter Riverside to Exeter Central with 2 ferry vans for the Premier Transport depot. Guinness was a regular traffic to there at the time. Passing through St Davids behind loco 33021 9/7/85 Speedlink trip for Derby Road leaves Ipswich Yard behind 47146. 11/11/83 cheers