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  1. Apologies for not responding earlier - I have not been on this site in a while. In fact I rather wish I had seen it before now as I have just this afternoon completed the sides for our forthcoming SR-type EPBs! Your illustration and dimensions are very helpful and I will correct the window radii accordingly. Back to the drawing board!
  2. That's a fascinating piece of social history and also the first explanation I have seen of the two different types of door ventilator that were often to be found on the same LBSCR vehicle. Roof mounted torpedo vents also seemed to be fitted - or not- in a random manner. Could this too have been associated with smoking vs non smoking compartments?
  3. Hi Steve Thank you for your order! The Hornby motor bogie housing is universal and fits all Eastleigh Southern Electric motor coch underframes. Thanks also for your feedback on the ordering process. We are just starting out and feedback of this kind is very helpful for ironing out any problems. On Eastleigh kits the buffer beam forms part of the underframe rather than part of the inner end of the coach body. All you would need to do to fit buffers to the inner ends of the 2 Wim would be to drill suitable diameter holes 22.5mm apart and 14mm above rail level (that is exactly half way up the bufferbeam itself). The Markits SECR/LBSCR oval sprung coach buffers look right to me, judging by the RCTS photos referenced by others in this thread and by the attached image of an LBSCR 54ft coach on the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. The LBSCR also used round headed buffers but these were confined to 48ft and shorter rolling stock. I hope the kit building goes well! Stephen
  4. Eastleigh sides have a lattice structure to strengthen the thin sides. Counter-intuitively, experiments showed that this works better than solid thick sides above and below the window line. The lattice is also useful for locating and glueing in glazing. Stephen
  5. Glazing for the 2 Wim: Doors 7mm wide x 15mm deep (36 needed, plus a few contingency spares for mishaps) Double windows 17.5mm x 17.5mm (22 needed, plus spares) End windows and MBC motorman's droplights 8mm x 17.5mm (10+) Cab windows 10.5mm x 14mm (4+) I use Deluxe Materials 'Glue n Glaze' as it does not affect the plastic and is not too runny (avoid cyanoacrylates, which can cause fogging) York Model Rail offer a bespoke laser cutting service that certainly saves a lot of time and repetitive effort. I specify 0.5mm clear acrylic when ordering. Don't do what I did and complain that the supplied windows were not very clear - there is a protective film on both sides to be removed before assembly!
  6. I use Phoenix Precision paints for most things. In this instance the bodysides are painted P78 SR post-war malachite as that would have been what was in use when the units received their final overhaul (according to the late Laurie Mack, an expert on Southern rolling stock, Selhurst 'varnished' its intermediate overhauls by applying a single coat of paint, which would have worked well enough as the units had previously had a general overhaul in pre-war malachite. From memory, the roofs of the model are painted with Precision Paints 'Roof Dirt' and the underframes in 'Dirty Black' with a dilute wash of 'Frame Dirt', which picks out the rivet detail on the units' characteristic massive plate frame solebars. This model was one of my first attempts at using an airbrush. Consequently the paint is too thick and I was spraying too close, resulting in the visible 'orange peel' effect. I now dilute sprayed paint 20% with Phoenix Precision PQ9 airdrying thinners which seems to work better but I am still far from an expert! Southern green is an elusive thing! Some say that the shade of green darkened slightly in early BR days, others that SR post-war malachite continued in use on Southern multiple units until about 1959 when the shade certainly did darken. The Phoenix Precision range offers: P78 SR post-war malachite P114 BR multiple units to 1954 (or 1959 for Southern EMUs) P119 BR multiple units 1954-1959 (but not Southern Electrics) P124 Southern Electrics from 1959 They also offer yet another shade of green for Southen Region locomotive hauled stock post 1956 I have followed their framework for my own model railway, not least because it profides me with subtle variations of shades but a small voice in my head questions whether Eastleigh, Selhurst, etc. would really have kept stocks of paint in all of these similar shades or was it more a case of paints fading and weathering over time? Also, was the science of mixing paint as precise then as it is now, or rather was it a case of 'a bit of this, a bit of that and stir well'? Photos are not all that much help as the shade of green in a 1950s colour photo had as much to do with the film used as with reality whilst distance, atmosphere and sunlight also affected the colour. One thing I can't see is any obvious difference in the shade of green on loco hailed stock and on multiple units! I would be interested to hear what the experts on this forum think.
  7. Bécasse You may be right about the proportion of smoking to non smoking accommodation in the early 1950s. Going from photos of the Southern Electric fleet in general at that time, non smoking accommodation seems to be about 25%. Photos of the actual 2 Wim units are few and far between and not always very distinct but JH Aston's shot of 1812 at West Croydon clearly shows the first three bays (nearest the cab) of the driving trailer with No Smoking triangles. I could not find a clear shot of the motor coach but would assume that it least one of the first class bays was originally designated no smoking. Did it stay that way when suburban first class was finally abandoned post-war? I don't know but maybe someone out there does! Likewise, frosted glass 'smoking' signs. The original 1909 South London Line stock was built by outside contractors and was quite unlike any other LBSCR stock of the era. I cannot see any evidence of smoking designations on the windows in the few photos that survive from then, nor of the 1930 2 Wim rebuilds but that does not mean they weren't there.
  8. Firstly, thank you for the alert on the website glitch - that will teach me to check when doing a cut and paste! Needless to say, what you get in the box is the same in both cases. I’m glad you like the look of the 2 Wim - in fact I can remember riding on them as a small boy en route to visit my grandmother. Even as a four year old their Edwardian interiors made an impression, though by then they were very run down and war-weary. The unit in the picture is a pre-production prototype. We have since made a few changes to the way parts go together but these do not affect appearance at all. The model is actually printed in an earlier materiall - the kits themselves are even better! If you let me have your email address I can send you some videos of the unit on test.
  9. I do appreciate that the kits are far from cheap! Tim (CW Railways) and I have gone over the costings really carefully and we just cannot do them for any less whilst covering production costs, overheads, etc. The alternative would be to go in to volume production but that involves a big upfront cost in the hope that there are enough potential customers out there. Not a risk we can afford to take! We have benchmarked our prices against other sources such as Shapeways and we seem to be in the same ball park (note how headline prices on some other sites increase at checkout!). Some of these other kits are body only which is why we offer the option of parts as well as complete kits. In the final analysis these models are a niche interest and the prices reflect the costs of very small scale production as well as the parts count for a 4 car unit. If the Sub is not for you, take a look at our latest offering, a 2 Wim, on eastleighmodelrail.co.uk Stephen Grant
  10. The prototype Sub was 3D printed in a different material and was also designed around re-using Hornby Bil/Hal underframes. That didn’t work as well as I hoped so I went for a complete redesign and a 100% bespoke kit instead. Also Tim (CW Railways) is now using a new translucent material that is something of a game changer in terms of smoothness and crisp detail. I have assembled the new kit’s underframes, bogies, etc. and they are running nicely on the test track (the close coupling works smoothly on #2 radius curves whilst being pushed and pulled by motor bogies at both ends) but I have made rather slow progress with the bodies due to various interventions of real life. I should be able to crack on over the next few weeks and will post progress on the Eastleigh website (eastleighmodelrail.co.uk). Hopefully the final result will be well worth the wait! Stephen Grant
  11. Thanks for pointing that out - duly noted. And sincere apologies for my slow response - real life intervened! Stephen
  12. I am currently working on a range of 3D printed Bulleid/Lynes EPBs to expand the Eastleigh Model Rail range of Southern Electrics. Looking at photographs of SR-type 1951 stock, the layout of underframe equipment on the motor coaches seems to be broadly similar to that on the post-1936 suburban/semi fast stock. If this is correct, can anybody tell me where were the motor generator set and the battery box were located on SR-type 1951 stock? Are there any other significant differences in underframe equipment layout that I need to take into account? All help and advice gratefully received!
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