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    Modelling interests: pre-48 LMS, transition-era BR(LMR), NCB steam, 50's Southern 'Withered Arm',
    PO Coal wagons, & Welsh Narrow Gauge
    Other modelling interests- 50's-80's motorsport, especially rallying,touring cars and Le Mans
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  1. I've got a vague memory that an article on modelling this appeared in Model Rail sometime in the last few years? A couple more pics here- http://www.davidheyscollection.com/page20.htm
  2. Is that the pair of Butterley 12-tonners acquired by Gann & Brown of Whitstable? They're mentioned (with a drawing) in John Arkell's book on PO wagons of the South-East. According to the caption of the drawing, they were built by Butterley in 1935, and registered by the Southern Railway in September 1943, which suggests that G&B acquired them second-hand. Given the date, and the pressures of wartime, was it simply a case of a wagon owner being supplied with whatever was available at the time? - not that they'd presumably have seen much of them anyway with pooling in force
  3. I hope that works out for 2020, because I thoroughly enjoyed my visit yesterday afternoon- I'd already had lunch so didn't sample the catering, but a good selection of layouts, and picked up a couple of things I'd been looking for from traders. All in all a very good addition to the local exhibition circuit, if you're back next year, I definitely will be!
  4. Yes, I'd agree that an unusually tall box (another example, Coalville), is a very different thing to an elevated one built on a gantry or frame- and presumably for different reasons-
  5. The last couple of shows I've been to, TTC Diecast (Derby IIRC?) have had pretty much the full selection of Hattons Ps and Barclays and a fair choice of Warwells available on their stand- Presumably this kind of resource-sharing makes sense for both the commissioner/retailers who get to increase the visibility of their own product in the market place, and the individual retailer who get a wider range of product to sell.
  6. Having been to the Nottingham show at Harvey Haddon for the first time a couple of years ago I was in two minds whether to go or not this year, but glad I did- an enjoyable couple of hours and a nice selection of layouts for a small show. I was a bit luckier with Mount Woodville, viewed it 4 times I think and caught the little Ruston(?) shuffling a wagon about on 3 of the 4 times. First time I'd seen Trent Lane Junction, and looking forward to seeing it again when it's completed
  7. Maybe the NRM will claim one, if only as a warning to future generations....
  8. Signal Box in Anstey have a garden railway-scale (G?) loco on a shuttle across one of their windows- although it's helpfully AWOL in the pic on Google maps... From vague teenage memory, at one point they had a small layout in the side window of their original shop in Coalville
  9. Private Owner Wagons of the South-East by John Arkell, published a couple of years ago by Lightmoor . The book reproduces the same photo that you posted, and the entry for Tilmanstone in the chapter on SER & LCDR lines in East Kent says 'a photograph exists of 3 wagons at the pit head yard. It is probable that the wagons were for internal use only (or over the East Kent) as the SE&CR and the Southern did not offer carriage rates in PO wagons'. The photo appears in a chapter on the Kent Coalfield. which talks about part of the cost charged by the Southern (2 shillings per ton in 1926) for transporting coal from Tilmanstone to Dover being payable to the EKR and the Dover Harbour commissioners who owned the tracks to the Eastern Docks, which meant the Southern couldn't reduce the rate without making a loss on the deal- this situation led to the construction of the aerial ropeway. I guess it's one of the frustrations for the pre-48 modeller, the availability of so many beautifully printed PO wagon liveries- applied to completely the wrong type of open wagon. I know Oxford have had a bit of flak for this in other threads, but none of the other RTR manufacturers are any better at times.
  10. Are the wagons going to be a bit on the fictional side? According to John Arkell's PO Wagons of the South East, the only known photo of Kent colliery PO wagons (reproduced in the book) shows a handful of Tilmanstone wagons in the colliery yard sometime between 1915-23- however they're 8-plank, not 5... Still it's not the first time Oxford (or anyone else) have put a PO livery on an inappropriate wagon. It's also suggested the Tilmanstone POs were internal-user only, although they may have been seen on the EKR, carrying coal destined for export via Dover which I guess is fair enough for the EKR train pack. Returning to the main topic of discussion, although it's not something I need personally, the J27 is a welcome addition to the scene- Oxford definitely seem to be focussing on smaller locos of pre-grouping origin so far.
  11. There's a comment in the latest Hornby Engine Shed blog which states: Three new types of tender have also been tooled, the ‘old standard’ 4000 gallon nine ton tender, the self-trimming ‘standard’ 4000 gallon nine ton tender and the ‘standard’ 4000 gallon ten ton tender I really ought to know this, but does the reference to the 'old standard' 4000 gallon/9-ton tender suggest the 'Fowler-style' early tender appearing for a subsequent release, or are they talking about a variation on the high-sided Stanier tender theme?
  12. Third car on the top deck looks like another 323- IIRC they did come in both hatchback and 4-door saloon flavours. Next in line seems to be another 323, then one more at the back after a Polski-Fiat. Second car on the lower deck looks more like a Polonez?
  13. Actually, assuming the absence of any licencing issues for the logos etc. a 'proper' Burtons would make a nice addition for a low-relief High Street- from the early 30's they had an in-house Arcihtects Department, so their purpose-built shops had a very distinctive house style of architecture https://buildingourpast.com/2017/01/28/burtons-modern-temples-of-commerce/
  14. Thinking back to the stuff I was buying as a kid/teenager, although Airfix and Mainline made a quantum leap forward in terms of appearance and detail, if not mechanisms, we're really on a different planet these days, not just in terms of detail but also the sheer variety of what's available- Could you imagine Hornby bringing out a Ruston or Peckett in the late 70's? Having said that, when I returned to modelling in the early 2000s, the first thing I unpacked from 15 years of storage and that ran pretty much straight from the box without any fettling was my Wrenn City of London bought second-hand in about 1983... My old Mk2 (1979 1.3L, bought when I finished uni in 1988 and sold on early in 1991) is still around- although last time I looked it was currently on SORN- and 30 years later I still miss it a bit and crave an RS2000 if I had the money and spare garage space...
  15. ...and as a couple of people have commented, they've done Southern (Adams Radial), Western (Dean Goods) and Eastern (N7), so we ought to be due something of a LMR persuasion...I like the thought of a 2-4-0- Maybe 'Hardwicke' or the Midland '156' at Butterley? ….and in WD livery would go nicely with that big railgun they're releasing
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