Hi John, l know what you mean about wagons as l have followed your wagon threads many a time, the big problem with O gauge is many of us just dont have the room we would like and can never make the layout we dream of, l bought two coaches thinking it would be ok, (Wrong) with a class 37 you are looking at nearly 5' long and on a scenic layout of 10' it looked silly, so l think l will be modelling a small diesel depot from now on...l also have a 56 and 66 on order (WHY) l ask myself Hahahaha...