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  1. Hi Chris, I've only just read your fascinating post, hence this rather late contribution, but is it possible that the modified high ended carriage shown was in use for passenger luggage? From my own limited experience of researching official minutes, they can more often than not be cryptically brief, stating the minimum of facts about a decision without further explanation or detail. Based on that ambiguity, looking at the print I can that there is very little roof luggage shown on the roof of the covered carriages immediately to the rear, and while there appear to be 2 people standing against the leading partition (brakesmen/guards?), there don't appear to be any seated passengers depicted in the coach itself. It is also washed in dark body colour, compared to the lighter unaltered 3rd class open coaches in front, which clearly show passengers in them? While there was room under seats for small luggage, the heavy portmanteaus, trunks and hat boxes of the wealthier long distance traveller would need to be carried on the roof, and perhaps this less than satisfactory solution was being addressed by this early modification of surplus stock? No claims for expertise here, and thanks for sharing such an interesting print and project. Matt
  2. Love this photo. One comment: are you modelling the 1980s? Odeon's brand from 1930 to at least the late 1980s was based around the red font. I always assumed this was because they had used neon tubing to pick out the iconic "ODEON" external signs, because when neon lights were first commercially available in the late 1920s, they were only available in the colour red (others will correct me if I'm wrong!). The blue rebranding occurred more recently, probably in the 1990s. Here is a link to a photo of the Odeon Leicester Square in 1987: https://www.flickr.com/photos/oldcinemaphotos/2396167152/in/photolist-4DJZ1L-4DJY2j-22XchBz-2hrvHwQ-8eWBB3-5uWDjy-77c9oh-2odPjCh-Sbiirv-cXyTk-v5cLJ-2noCmHd-7s9zK8-6CUfeZ-o8CYZq-4kmWQz-2khQrjW-4DEE62-FMpVvL-4kqYqE-7tg4fL-2gS8k3-qSqdi3-2msxh1k-qjFzGY-7L2qSN-Dco8J7-2c2EwGw-6ygDzw-8yoCah-7xzp1-ajAaPn-Ns7xu9-5LSiAn-8DgqH3-86PxPk-6HZcRa-6yEcEy-eT2Nv-5pz1E5-4kqYpE-7P5xUa-Cxprps-6MrXBN-ky2Nk-54Y8fx-9ktRZ1-4vnhDX-7irmDH-nbaTf8 It's modeller's rule number 1 of course, so doesn't detract from a very absorbing and atmospheric scene. All best. Matt
  3. Hi Mikkel, A very interesting post. You create a totally absorbing sense of time and place. One thing, and I know how much of a detail man you are so you'll probably appreciate this/go bonkers trying to figure it out, but of course horses produce an imprint on their environment. Have you considered that the ground around the tracks would likely be marked and rutted with shunting and delivery horse hoof prints? Take a walk around the periphery of a stable block and you will find (depending on the time of day) manure/straw/bedding and dubious stains in various corners and crevices too! Also, may I heartily congratulate you on your sense of colour scale and tone. So important to get this right. It's an art. From my neck of the woods, I attach a scan for your interest of a photo of Mr Arthur Challis, coal and coke merchant, with his horse and coal delivery cart. Most probably taken in Alexandra Road, Wimbledon in 1905, which is the year his business was established. He was successful enough to be ordering a brand new coal wagon "No.20" from Charles Roberts in 1931. In the background is a poster with the letters "PSA", which was the "Pleasant Sunday Afternoon" Society, a semi-religious movement set up to encourage men not to spend their Sunday afternoon in the pub. All best, Matt CHALLIS photograph of coal cart horse and merchant Wimbledon c1905 720dpi.pdf
  4. Hi Mikkel, Long time since I last commented, but I was researching railway accidents (as you do) and came across this leaflet: https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/sites/default/files/2018-04/the-safety-movement-1914-LOW.pdf?_ga=2.60822444.1812258583.1594485049-478566534.1594485049 which instantly made me think of your fantastic "posed" dioramas. This is kind of life imitating art, with a bit of time travel thrown in! If you've already seen it, then this is just by way of a hello and happy modelling anyway! Best, Matt
  5. Hi Gilbert, Long time no post, but I saw this and thought of you! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Railway-Signal/174002135366?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40733%26meid%3D338306900d224d949ce3bce03f93a0a8%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D223639247379%26itm%3D174002135366%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219 Yes, I'm sure you fancy a real GNR somersault signal :-) Matt
  6. Hi Gilbert, Apologies if all in the know, but FS due through platform 4 Peterborough this morning 10:32. (The 12" to the foot one) All best, Matt http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U53516/2017/04/20/advanced
  7. Hi Mikkel, Fascinating reading. Thanks for sharing. There's a book in there somewhere! Have you seen the Historic England (formerly English Heritage) book on Goods Sheds btw? Available as a real book, but digital link is here: https://content.historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/railway-goods-shed-and-warehouse-in-england/the-railway-goods-shed-and-warehouse.pdf/ Not GWR, or indeed railway, but a stable link which you might also find interesting, a Victorian municipal stable which survived intact and was recorded in detail: http://brentfordandchiswicklhs.org.uk/local-history/buildings/chiswicks-municipal-stables/ All best, Matt
  8. Dear Gilbert, I was at Winchester station last Saturday and saw a chap "sitting" on a platform bench that made me think of Peterborough North and previous conversations about "proper" reality versus actual reality! I was tempted for a fleeting moment to go over and "right" him to an acceptable position, but wisely thought better of it. All best, Matt
  9. Absolutely love the bridge Gilbert, the depth of field it creates is transformational. I agree that its a shame that the "backscene" you pinned to the shelves front (?) casts a shadow behind the bridge, as this diminishes the effect of distance...as the eye expects to see a "fading off" of tone as distance increases. Could you not just afix the backscene to the back wall, so that light falls on the area behind the bridge? That would do it and increase the sense of depth? Anyway, just a thought. Keep up the splendiferous modelling. Regards, Matt
  10. Hi Gilbert, been away so catching up... :imsohappy:Re you photo of 61666, I can smell that photo! Hot metal, oil and a whiff of paraffin and sulphur. My instinct was to warm my hands on the monitor ...lucky I work for myself, that would have looked a bit odd :imsohappy:dropped an emoticon!
  11. I'm sorry chaps, I should have added to the last post I was referring to post #7924. Gilbert, I have visions of Duck suspended from the ceiling "Mission Impossible" style to add the necessary swallows to the telegraph wires?
  12. As one of 4 members that offered observations about the poles, certainly on my part you can call it feedback rather than "criticism", I'd just like to say that this is a forum, and for my part I was very positive, and greatly respect and appreciate what Gilbert, his staunch ally and supporter Duck and all the contributors to the Magnum Opus that is PN is. I feel it a little unfair to be apparently censured for contributing to the thread, as this post puts me off doing.
  13. Dear Gilbert and Duck, with the greatest respect and positivity, I'm going to stick my neck out and use my architectural eye on this one: Duck the telegraph poles are impressive, HOWEVER, being absolutely empirical, I would say that - taking the famous one with 17 struts in front of the station, if you compare the photo that started it all (image 4, post #7905), to the model (image 5) the issue is I believe this: It is not that the poles are too high per se, but that the struts are slightly too far apart, so the proportions are the issue. If in the original you measure the distance between strut 1 and 17, you can see that it is approximately 4/5ths of the height of the 2 storey building in the original photo. Compare this with the model (image 5) and the struts span approximately 6/5ths of the height of the 2 storey building. Anyway, I hope this is taken in the spirit of helpful constructive advice! I'll get my (GPO) coat. Matt
  14. Speaking of figures, I agree that the model persons available are often a distraction, since a. any figure captured "in motion" is always jarring as clearly it isn't, then b. it's hard to find a decent model person to start with, then c. they are often painted crudely (gloopy paint and glaring tones) and d. all too often "standing" at "three sheets to the wind" unnatural poses. However, I've stumbled upon these figures created by Alan Buttler just recently, and they change the game: https://oswestryworks.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/modelu-first-steps/ So Gilbert you can scan yourself and Duck into the scene if you wish?! All best, Matthew
  15. Dear Gilbert, I'm sure that I already replied to this post on the subject of "wet and gloomy" weather on layouts, but it seems to have disappeared from the record so I must have done something wrong. So, forgive me if I am repeating myself, but followers of moody atmospheric layouts may be interested in Jim Smith-Wright's Brettell Road project: www.p4newstreet.com/category/brettell-road Also, this layout/diorama: Brooklyn 3am www.carendt.com/small-layout-scrapbook/page-87-july-2009/ Not that I am suggesting you spray the entire layout with Klear and put umbrellas on all the spotters... All best, Matthew
  16. I went to a DCC conference at Pecorama a few years back, and they had a demonstration layout with 7mm diesels which the chaps not only had DCC sound in, but also coordinated CLAG...I asked them what it actually was, and they admitted they added a drop or two of real diesel to the smoke oil in the smoke generators! I tell you what, it looked good, and smelt "right"...but it was also asphyxiating! Not a great idea in a confined space! Probably somebody somewhere has a link to it or its on t'web.
  17. Hi Mikkel, Happy new year to you! Impressive work as always, but as I know you like a bit of observation I'll say this... What Bill Bedford refers to is known as "stop chamfering" and it's one of those classic "little" details that omitted can make all the difference, and as you went to pains to reproduce it on the underside of the van body's bottom rail, I wish you had "seen" it elsewhere as in my view it produces a distinctive architectural character and level of refinement to the van frame. It produces the effect of shadow and detail as well as giving the illusion of more slender components. Whether it was also considered by the makers as an equally practical exercise to reduce the risk of splintering, I'm guessing a bit of both. On a micro detail note, looking at the reference photo, I would say that the bottom rail had a sloped top as well as being stop chamfered, as an attempt to discourage capillary action of standing water. Now having said all that, would you end up with a massacred pile of styrene shavings it you had tried the whole frame?! You have the bridge commander! All best, and getting coat, Matt
  18. :fool:Apologies: North!! That's why I keep my mouth shut
  19. bigwordsmith you've transported Peterborough East to Dawlish! Gilbert, I'm a lurker, but avid follower of your thread. Bigwordsmith's Photoshop has prompted me to give voice... Love your work, ECML gems and all the banter, totally inspiring time travel. Matt
  20. Mikkel, fabulous post! You reminded me of an small episode in my life: When I used to live by Brockwell Park in S London, there was a crow we called "Brring", as it had a specific call (different to all the others) that sounded like an old telephone...think opening dialogue track to "Get Carter". Several years later and I was standing on Vauxhall Station (3 miles away), and heard the familiar "BRRRING" call, there on the top of the lamppost was what I can only assume was our old friend. I was waiting for a steam excursion at the time! Brought a smile to my face. Now do you want me to start giving you feedback on your patent glazing weathering details?! Huge enjoyment from your posting! All best, Matt
  21. Hi Mikkel, Great to see you doing some L&SWR modelling! Your eye for detail is as always appreciated. Mr Geen has made some great kits and is much appreciated by me, but if you are looking for the definitive diagram 1410 kit, then you should consider Mr Martin Finney: http://website.lineone.net/~cbwesson/4mm%20LSWR%20Van%20Kits.htm http://website.lineone.net/~cbwesson/ (home page if above link faulty) All the best, and looking forward to the next instalment as ever. Kind regards, Matthew
  22. Hi Mikkel, Impressive improvisation as always sir... Just one technical comment, to stop accidental racking, as you have no bracing other than the panels, would 4 simple corner frame stiffeners not be a simple solution? And will this traverser be operated by an immaculately detailed set of 4mm Edwardian navvies? :-D Best wishes Matt
  23. Hi Pete, Just wanted to say that I've enjoyed the blog so far, great conceptual work ups, almost as much fun as the model itself no doubt will be. I have to guess that you work in architecture? Looks all too familiar :-) For what it's worth, on the subject of exhibiting/framing/viewing a layout, which you have been considering in depth, is it perhaps the case that the idea of a secondary display can sometimes be a bit of a distraction from the model itself? Looking forward to the next posting. Best regards, Matt
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