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  1. HI Had a bit of a search & found the original Hand drawn track plan for Penhallick Junction....... Not where I thought it was but here it is..... Hopefully it's self explanatory....If not please ask..... Still not found Hendra's track plan but I did find a couple of pictures of the traverser which hopefully illustrate better how the fiddleyard is hidden & operated.... The above picture shows also one of the cross members which have drawer runners on them so that the fiddleyard base slides in & out smoothly.... The large building (Linhay ) will be to the left covering & hiding the fiddleyard. And from the other end.... The brown & white tubes will be slurry tanks which which with associated control building will add to hiding the access to the fiddleyard...... Hope this helps.... Cheers Bill
  2. Hi again Put some coal on the old computer & fired it up so here goes....... Sadly can't find the track plans for either Penhallick junction or Hendra but here are a couple of pics of what I mean..... First an overall pic of Penhallick Junction..... To the right was about 4ft of cassette behind the buildings & to the left was about 2ft of cassette through the bridge which allowed a DMU to shuttle to & fro whilst the yard was shunted...... As I said the overall layout was 12ft long.... The first pic of Hendra shows the traverser before the Linhay (large building) was built & the second how the entry was 'disguised by the entry through the bridge to the left of the Linhay.... Hopefully the above gives you an idea of how I did it.... If not....Ask again.... Cheers Bill
  3. Hi Jules If you look at my layout Hendra (click on the link in my signature ) on the last page the last post is a front on picture of the complete layout..... The layout is longer than your proposed dimension at 12ft long but the principal is the same.... The large building on the right houses a 5 road traverser which is 6ins longer than the actual building......So extends to the right by 6ins but isn't obvious when being viewed from the front. I did a similar thing with Penhallick Junction (which was also 12ft long) but used cassettes at either end & inset the main layout so that the through line disappeared through a bridge at one end & behind a building at the other so that I could have an illusion of a mainline with DMU's shuttling to & fro in the background & the China Clay yard in front. Sadly the pics are no longer on here due to the 'crash' but the topic is & I can post some either on here or by PM if you want. I'll try & dig out the track plans & post them......Sadly they are on my old computer ,which is playing up so might take a bit to cajole into action. Cheers Bill
  4. Hi I've made a bit of progress....... Done no more on the signalling front apart from make up 8 Ratio ground signals & paint them.... They await fitting in due course once I redraw the signalling diagram...... I have however been fitting the concrete hardstanding in the loading area & this is just about done....I've also made a start on ballasting the yard....... In the past I've always made the concrete hardstanding out of Polyfilla. It probably gives the best final result but is messy, difficult to get flat, liable to chip & crack & it's a pain to get the grooves for the wheels to run in dug out & looking right...... So this time I've used a combination of 1 & 2mm white card.....The stuff used in picture framing.... I found that a strip of 2mm brings the height to above the chairs & a strip of 1mm covers the chairs &brings the height to just below rail head top height.....Necessary for rail cleaning...... It's certainly a lot quicker & far less messy. I used neat PVA glue to stick it down to the cork or plywood base & in front of the Linhay between the rails which was just a strip of 2mm card.In the fuel loading area I used Superphatic to glue it to the sleepers....It seems to have stuck down fine so far with just a bit of trimming down to lower the level where the card ended up higher than the rail head. In order to get more light on the layout whilst I'm working on it I've fitted the light pelmet to the back of the layout .... It throws shadows the wrong way but I no longer need to continually be wearing my head torch. Don't quite know what's happened to the pics when I resized them but hopefully you get the idea.... Next more ballasting & keep running stuff (playing ) to make sure all still works as it should.... Cheers Bill
  5. Hi again Just a couple of thoughts on your plan...... I was wondering whether the 6ft included the fiddle yard or if that was an extension to the 6ft length..... In my plans foe St Blazeyish I had thought of doing it in 8ft over all....... So if you move the repair shed to the edge of the board & make it longer you could hide the fiddle yard behind it which would mean the whole of the layout would be scenic...... You could even have a large shed/industrial building at the other end & then have 153 or similar shuttling to & fro in the background while you shunt in the foreground...... That was my idea of what I was going to do anyway . It would mean that you would have to use cassettes rather than a traverser...... I must admit that my pet hate at exhibitions is where there is a superbly modelled small layout spoilt by the sometimes larger length of blanks at either end of invisible fiddle yard..... Feel free to ignore..... Cheers again Bill
  6. Hi Great idea..... Lot's of potential for scenics/shunting/wagon variety etc...... I'd been thinking about something similar based on St Blazey but as the real track layout is much more extensive I couldn't quite get my head around how to get it to work & keep it relatively simple track wise..... Will follow with interest... Cheers Bill
  7. Hi Although I'm sorry that Burngullow Lane is no more as I enjoyed following your build I am glad that you have settled on another 'local' themed layout that looks to be very interesting. I look forward to following your take on the North Cornwall line. We moved to Cornwall in 1987 & were welcomed by the locals as we were putting money into the local economy as we lived/worked/shopped in the local area. When we bought this place 24 years ago it was semi derelict & we had a few problems with the neighbouring Gypsy camp.....Until they realised that we were intending to renovate the place to live in ourselves.....We get on with them fine as we treat them like normal people .....I think that this is the case with most communities.....If you try & fit in & bear in mind they were there before you most people are welcoming...... Looking forward to your progress... Cheers Bill
  8. Hi Where's the fab button.... That's an excellent outcome & more importantly thanks for the step by step detailing of the build...... Having seen the results of your efforts I'm certainly tempted to have a go myself though I will probably use my usual base of 3mm Foamboard...... Keep up the good work.... Cheers Bill
  9. Hi Paul You're welcome for the mental exercises provided....Glad to be of service..... Half the fun/appeal to me of the hobby is armchair modelling...... The addition of the crossover that you suggest is certainly a good idea & would certainly mean that as the train engine could do the shunting of the train then there would be no need for cross company cooperation.......& I get that it would be beneficial to keep the mainline clear..... I can also see the sense in how you suggest the oil train is shunted....Again keeping the mainline clear makes sense.... At present I tend to use an EWS shunter (Hornby 09) in the yard which is fine for the clay as they operate the mainline trains anyway but probably would not shunt the freight liner operated stone trains. I do have other Imerys type shunters but at present they do not run well enough for my satisfaction.....A shunting layout relies on reliable smooth running loco's.The Hornby 0 4 0 Sentinel runs well but I can't get enough weight in it to pull long enough trains without is slipping....My Oxford & EFE shunters just keep stopping which is probably a pick-up problem that I've not yet got sorted. If I could get them running to my satisfaction then that would solve the problem of cross company cooperation as all the product produced would be from imerys so their shunter would be fine shunting all the stock. Thanks for adding your thoughts as it is another perspective that I had not thought of...... Cheers for now Bill ps. Went up for a bit of a play earlier......Both the bracket signals were working fine.....BUT.....All three of the single post stop signals lights wouldn't light up.....The arms worked fine as they should.......'Tish I said to myself..... Cheers again Bill
  10. Hi Paul Thanks very much for your very useful & informative reply....... It is just the sort of reply I had hoped for..... As I'm having issues with the bracket signals they can easily be replaced as the beauty of the Dapol system is that the signals are in effect a bolt & nut as far as fitting to the layout goes & they are not ballasted in yet so easy to remove .The nice thing with the bracket signals is that you can see the arm move when the signal changes whereas I don't intend to make the ground signals working ones. As stated previously they should also for the period modelled be round post.......Something to ponder!!!!! As I haven't yet fitted it I shall not include a catch point as it is not necessary. As far as goods workings the only traffic in the up direction is the returning fuel tanks from Long Rock.The loco would detach from these & pull forward to then reverse into the yard to collect any traffic from Tregrea from one of the reception sidings marked B on the track plan where the wagons would be waiting.Then draw forward on to the up line before reversing to rejoin the empty tanks before heading off Eastwards I thought it might be an idea to include the track plan again to save scrolling back to the beginning each time one wanted to refer to it. It is assumed that apart from the fuel tank train all other down goods trains terminate in the yard. So they would run into the headhunt A & reverse their train into headhunt G before picking up their return train from the reception siding Before heading off back East. Stone trains would again run in to headshunt A but the wagons would then be drawn off by a yard shunter before being put away in the loading siding C .The train loco would then collect it's waiting loaded wagons & return back East or if no available wagons ready then was in the loco stabling siding F while they were loaded before departing. The fuel train would arrive on the down line.The loco would detach & pull forward before reversing back along the up line & over the crossover back on to the down line berfore pulling back past TG9 towards the off scene limit of shunt signal before reversing it's train either into headshunt A or reception siding B .As there would be no traffic to go West the loco would then pull onto the up line before running wrong line on the ups line past TG1 where it would then reverse bacon omits remaining tanks & head off West to Long Rock. Hope the above ramblings make some sense...... What I need to do next will be to redraw the 'Signal Box' plan taking into consideration your notes & see what it looks like & make any necessary amendments. Again thanks very much for you informed input.....Really appreciate it. Cheers Bill
  11. Hi Further to Gordon A's post above I thought I'd draw up a sort of signal box diagram.... I have only included the signalling in the visible area & not a fully signalled diagram. TG1 controls the main line & loco's running round via the down main....In reality this would probably be just a standard signal with a dummy for the run round. TG2 is the down main starter . TG3 is what I would call the inner home protecting the access to the yard. TG4 allows access from the up main to the down main via the crossover. TG5 allows exit from the yard.....No catch point as there is a pointwhich would be controlled by the signal box that leads to the headshunt. TG6 allows access to the yard from the up main. TG7 is the up starter or maybe home signal. TG8allows access from the down main to the up main via the crossover TG9The main aspect is for the down main & the bracket is for access to the yard.In reality the bracket might be a dummy/ground signal & TG 8 might be combined with this signal on the same post. I am not asignaller or by any means an expert on signalling so if anyone wishes to correct/redraw my design feel free....... I realise for instance that the signals would not be numbered in this way ,TG1 for instance would be two numbers but I just did it like this for ease of this post. Anyway hope it makes sense & any thoughts welcome... Cheers Bill I had a play this evening & the down main TG9 has stopped working & I have an issue with thw bracket on TG!.
  12. HI Halvarras Thanks for the above..... Does that mean that Clay slurry & bagged clay are no longer transported by rail..... Bagged & slurry used to go from Parkandillack/Treviscoe & bagged from Par docks as well as the powder form from both. Cheers Bill
  13. Hi Gordon A Yes I think there should be...... I made a working one to put there but due to the curvature I couldn't get it to fit properly to follow the curvature of the track..... Also I did wonder if you get curved trap points......Especially as it's quite a sharp curve..... Plan 'B' is to fit a dummy one just to make it look right...... Thanks for your comment........Allinput to get it right is welcome..... Cheers Bill
  14. HI All Well a bit more progress to report.... The backscene boards are all fixed & painted a light blue colour..... Will maybe also add the suggestion of whispy cloud later... The rail sides are also painted on the viewing side as well.... In the past I've always used acrylic paint but this time I used a thinned enamel which 'washed' on quite easily...... I painted the backscene & rail sides whilst the baseboards were on their edge which made both jobs much easier & less messy...... The rust colour was made up using a mix of Humbrol matt 62 ,matt 180 & Phoenix thinners to a ratio of 40 : 40 : 20 Which came out quite well...... The only problem with the wash method quite a lot of paint ends up on the rail head so I've started removing it with track cleaning rubbers.......Mine were old & nearly worn out....They are now so new ones required...... Had an old Peco one which was rock hard & didn't touch the paint......The others were softer & removed the paint without seemingly damaging the railhead..... I've also altered the duck under at the doorway to a lift up flap which will make entering & exiting much easier....... Our dog loves 'helping' when I'm in the railway room & thinks it's a great game to lie in the doorway & lick you in the face as you try & go out or in under the corner board....Not any more...... Finally I bought some Dapol working signals.....I have always previously made my own but these are very nice & will save a lot of time.....Unfortunately at the moment Western bracket signals are only availably in square post style rather than tubular which I think would be the case fr any remaining semaphore signals but if they become available in the future the can easily be changed.... I'm not sure I've signalled the layout correctly but it'll do for now...... Well that's all for now.... Cheers Bill
  15. Hi Well the glacier has moved...... I built the new point & fitted it..... The kink in the track has now gone & I think it looks much a much smoother curve...... Not brilliant pics but I hope it shows it. Before: & after: Then spent a while checking that all ran well & it seems too..... I can now split a westbound freight & reverse the wagons into the yard leaving the remaining fuel tanks to go on their way to Long Rock......& I can return the empties & add the empty from Tregrea plus any other Clay wagons to make up the train to go on it's merry way Eastward. The other job I have done is to fit the back scene boards...... It would have been so much easier if I'd done it before I'd laid the track but on my previous layouts the back was always accessible......Not in this case..... It meant the whole layout being taken apart & swung through 180 degrees & balanced on makeshift supports to accomplish..... In other news...... I have always before made my own working signals either from scratch ( colour light ) or from MSE kits or scratch & MSE parts for semaphores...... Well as my eyesight isn't as good now I splashed out & bought some Dipole motorised ones..... There are some reasonably priced second hand ones on a well known auction site & I've ordered a couple more from Kernow. They are nice signals......Sadly the bracket ones are only square post & I thought they were faulty & realised by going on the internet that the suspected fault was the 'bounce'. Next job will be to fit these while the layout is in bits then paint the back scene boards when hopefully I shan't have to take the layout to bits again & I can get on with some scenic work........ That's all for now.... Cheers Bill
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