Tref

Seit toll aus, Leider mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut. Haben Sie mehr Bilder?

Interested to see this progress, apart from it being great for the CBC, I have a pumping house on another project of mine, and reckon I might be able to steal ideas!!!

The rooflights indeed appealed to me, but to fit a building to house a G1 mineral wagon, I need all the space I can get!

Another failure... Today I obtained a cakebox. Of course, I couldn't just measure it in the shop, so it wasn't until I was home that I found it was too small. Serves six? Pah! Further research required.

I finally have some materials! Moreover,I was able to support a local model shop for their purchase. Not local to me, but the shop in Cromer had some "O" gauge wiggly tin. The corrugator may be too small, I will measure when I get home, but it looks close enough to me - certainly saves what I was considering, "roll your own" wiggly tin!

Yep, I'm one of them!

Indeed, there is only millimetres to spare, one reason for it having to be 1/32, not 10mm:1ft. The latter would, just, fit, but leave nothing for the building surrounding it I wish to model.

Many thanks. One I had seen in my trawling, but as you say, currently unavailable. I must admit I baulked a bit at paying over £100 for my first kit to experiment with soldering too. Ok, I know with a guitar the argument is that many a newbie is put off by buying a cheap, and close to unplayable guitar, so perhaps the same is true of brass kits, a cheap one may be really difficult to assemble... I think perhaps it's unavailability is doing me a favour - no point in debating it! There is also the fact I plan on hacking lumps out of it... It will be next to valueless once I have finished! I did make another realisation though... So long as I make the panel to be repaired the one with the number on it, I won't have to worry about numbering!!

First tangible progress: Ok, I haven't actually made anything yet, but I figured if the plans are good enough for 5" gauge, then it should look ok scaled down to 1/32. Already it has confirmed it will fit... Just! I also received my Warley catalogue today, and whilst I have only flicked through I noted an article on modelling in cardboard. I guess if I am scratch building there is no need to work in brass - I'll have to save learning to solder brass for another day. It is just the time to hack out brass sheet, so this could be an option.

Sorry only a flying visit by me, so didn't catch up with you, but still good to see a layout I have been following on here. Tref.

Drill a little hole, and put a tiny sliver of plastic rod through each one, then file the curved profile on afterwards. That should keep you going until well up to the closing date and give me a chance of catching up!;-)

Wow, what a kick start to a project! I need to spend more time on ebay! Third rail too! Interested to see how this develops

Still no physical progress, but now only a fortnight until I will hopefully be able to acquire some materials. In the meantime, I have had plenty of time for further planning. Latest brainwave, at the risk of cluttering it, I would like to include a representation of my favourite artist, Terence Cuneo. I feel it would the kind of scene he would have captured, so like the idea of him sat in the corner, recording the work in oil. Of course, that also means I have to include his mouse, and so add a little entertainment for people trying to find it. The obvious would be pretending to be a piece of cake, in a cake box that was destined to be one of the volunteer worker's lunch! How big is a 1/32nd mouse?!

Forced perspective from above? Now that is certainly original! Love it!

Brilliant (and fast - mine is waiting for Warley in the hope of gathering materials!). Great use of mirrors - thought of adding smoke too?! I have a soft spot for anything steampunk-esque, either figuring out how it works, or working out what the original components were! I can't help thinking, looking at the protrusion on the end of the once-upon-a-time cattle wagon, that you should make it self-propelled an claim it methane powered! Tref

Some of the hole saws have a little slot in them, if it does, an Allen key is your friend for pushing out the plug. Tref.

Gentlefolk, having entered the cakebox challenge, I have decided on the humble 16 ton mineral wagon as the main subject of my entry. So I have, over the past three or four weeks worked my way through this thread from beginning to end, to check I don't ask a silly question that has already been answered, and now suffering from severe information overload! Still, apart from following some of the links, at least no further research is required! However, whilst 4mm has been covered, "0" gauge has been covered, my plans are for 1/32 scale (gauge 1). Really I would prefer an etched kit (a new experience for me, and I want to cut bits out, which will be easier in the flat). So far my quest has drawn a blank. Anyone looking at this any experience, or can point me in the right direction? Many thanks, Tref

A combination of imagination and modelling skills? Geez, I can see already I am going to loose out on the modelling skills, so I'll need to be far more imaginative - pass me that LSD please, I need the same sort of inspiration as whoever came up with the flowerpot men! Seriously though, I think it sounds like a very sensible simple ruling.if it breaks the rules, but the vote says it is so damn good it is deserving of credit, so be it. Tref (in it for fun)

Sounds good, and two wonderful tales! Are you planning on modelling the inside of the building as I am, the shed as a backstage, or half and half with it being barred out? It doesn't look as if there is space for the door half open and people peering round, which us a shame. Love the idea though. Tref

Thanks guys. Yes, I have considered scratchbuilding, and have started looking for drawings, and read the entirety of the huuuuge thread on 16 ton mineral wagons (which gives me the sources for the drawings). It is still an option, and because of what I want to do with it, is probably ahead of butchering an rtr wagon (which would probably be the cheapest option). watch this space (probably for the entire year!).

Do you think? I am open to suggestions here, and agree, two bottles, no big box, and no mains lead for oxy-acetylene. Back in the day, I would agree, the choice is oxy-acetylene, or stick welding. Whilst a mineral wagon side is thin, I wouldn't have thought when new, that thin (anyone any idea?) - I would have thought at least 1/8", so open to either being used. Now though, MIG seems to be used almost universally used. It can weld the thin stuff, but can weld thicker cheaply, without the clean-up needed for stick. I really don't get on with it, and would rather use stick or gas myself, but I only weld once in a blue moon (and only for hobby purposes... Did weld up the front of a class 45 once though!), so really by observation than proper knowledge. All suggestions and comment welcome, especially given that this is reckoned on being a present day preservation shed, rather than back in the day.

I did some "proper modelling" today - well at least by my standards! Having decided that most of the buildings are part of London Tube and Pipe, which justifies all of the traffic, I have wanted something to hint at that. A pack of Knightwing Valves Joints and Saddles provided me with a good start! I had the idea of putting a couple of valves on a pallet, ready to send out as part of a load. The pallet was from Modelscene. Sounded easy - two problems though. One, the valves were too long for the pallet, and looked a little long to me anyway. Two, the Knightwing flanges are actually, I believe, a pair of flanges bolted together, intended to fit between two joined pieces of pipe. So, I cut down the valves, and made up my own single flanges by attempting to cut a couple of discs of plasticard to the same diameter. Well the valves got shorter and shorter as I attempted to cut them square! They are still not perfect, and the flanges are not truly round, but they are good enough for me. They were then painted with my cheap box of acrylics - perfect for this with the garish colours looking like new stuff, but the matt finish leaving them not standing out too much, in my opinion anyway. Then simply glue it all together (I glued the flanges on before painting). Unfortunately then I got too ambitious, thinking of painting dots on the end to represent the ports of the valves, and flange fixing holes. My hand-eye coordination is not up to that, so I have a feeling I will paint this out, I think I made it worse, not better. Oh well, I was thinking of actually trying to drill holes in them, but decided I didn't have the patience! As these are supposed to be new, no weathering required. I will claim any strapping holding them down is too small to see. Now I have got making that out of my system, I might have more patience to make a couple more, and either drill them out, use darker blue paint rather than black for the holes in the ends, or try using a felt tipped pen rather than brush and paint for the holes in the ends.

This is proving to be a real eye-openner to me of how dominant 4mm is. After the struggles to find a wagon kit (still no joy) I thought I would start with the building. Something to look like wiggly tin or box section to clad it, some RSJ section to support it, and a couple of figures I could convert to be welders or grinders. I was fortunate to visit a two-modelshop-town (how many of those are there?!) but I walked out of both empty handed. Plasticard for 4mm, but nothing even remotely that I could use. I think I am going to have to think about the size of the RSJs, because again, nothing in the 8-10mm range that I thought would be about right. (how big would the columns be on a portal frame about 6m wide?). People... Well it turns out all the military stuff that I thought was 1:32 is actually 1:35! I may have to settle for a short welder. Stood precariously on an up-turned milk-crate to weld the high bits sounds like an interesting model, but I couldn't see anything on the boxes that looked vaguely like it could be converted. So much for supporting my "local" modelshop.

Oh please, somebody build them all! No excuse for anyone not entering now for lack of ideas!

You were ok until you pointed it out! Flemish bond...ok... Stretcher bond? Nah! English bond please! But don't worry, it is masked by your fantastic eye for colour. As I am discovering, it doesn't matter what is underneath it, if the colour is wrong, it looks wrong. Paint it well, and it will hide a multitude of sins.. Care to share your method and colours used?