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  1. 1 hour ago, AY Mod said:

     

    Try a few years of sitting in this chair witnessing the undue haste to air negative opinions from a minority and then see how you feel about it. Whether that be being first to spot a problem in an EP, too few S Scale D&E layouts at an exhibition or an out of period chuffer in a TV show it's just mind-numbingly depressing; especially when there are more important things in life. A few people have just got no sense of perspective. 

     

    This is a serious point, if it affects you so much why continue to it? Of all the forums I contribute to this one has to be the most interventionist; its one thing to filter out scam/spam/ah hominem, but you obviously spend significant time 'gardening' topics which don't fit. While many jobs make you want to tell people to refer to Arkell vs Pressdram most people set a point they intervene at levels that are practicable and sustainable without going doolally.  

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  2. 1 hour ago, MikeB said:

    Covid precautions seemed effective and well observed (except for two large traders, now on my blacklist,  whose staff were maskless - seems to be a Yorkshire thing).

     

    I don't know which traders they are but probably at least one did Doncaster without anything untoward. To repeat others, it's good they bothered to come at all, and were willing to suffer the restrictions.:D Looking forward to getting back to Glasgow after the 21st March. 

     

  3. 6 hours ago, AY Mod said:

     

    I wouldn't go so far as 'full' but...

     

     

    I'm trying to rationalise the concept of complaints being a form of support; but I can't.

     

    I didn't say that. You support the organiser, this can by summarising what punters thought didn't work but filtering out the verbage.

  4. 22 minutes ago, AY Mod said:

     

    I would have thought you'd understand how people who've put a lot of work in would feel if that was the first review of their efforts they would see on here at the end of a long day. No?

    As they say from our part of God's own country there's nowt as queer as folk. Either a complaint is useful for next year or it shows that our hobby is full of very odd people. Apart from complaints along the lines of a couple of GW layouts was 'simply not enough' I have never heard anything which I had the odd worry about while doing the Friday set up. Being exhibition organiser needs thick enough skin not to be depressed, but not too thick to be able to evaluate how well you did. For the rest of us we need to provide support where it is needed. 

  5. 2 hours ago, AY Mod said:

     

    Instead, be grateful for those who did put on a show.

     

     

    They were never booked to be there. They haven't given any dates when they will return to shows.

     

    Please try and be more responsible with your comments.

     

    If Bino was disappointed, implying that he is ungrateful isn't going to help. You had a whinge about my disappointed about aspects of the Doncaster show even though I had thoroughly lowered my expectations. It's a good job that for me that exhibition was worth it as a shopping trip, whereas for Bino it doesn't sound like it was.   

     

    Similarly I don't infer from Bino that he thought Hornby had given back word, only that Hornby is perhaps behind most others in getting back to exhibitions of this size. While he may have been a bit satirical on why Hornby may want to avoid queries (que Titfiled jokes as well), its a valid point.

     

    My club had a fairly successful show last October, but the benchmark is ever raising and we need to have a better one this year. People expect continuous improvement while we live with COVID - in this case (and having seen the plan) having a slightly higher percentage of the space for layouts next year could be a goal.

  6. 1 hour ago, njee20 said:

    But you’re not having to pay for it are you? NGS hunslet aside it’s very unusual to have a DCC-only release. Removing PCBs and sockets wouldn’t make models cheaper as you’d have two smaller production runs. 

     

    The cost of redoing the chassis for 03/04/08 (and the others which are adding sound) is part of the reason for the increased cost of these models. For those of us on DC its wasted money. Farish would not change the design of a perfectly workable chassis unless they can justify charging a premium.  A chassis for a totally new model would not be to much different with a socket than without but with the 'upgrades' the extra design and manufacturing cost are down to one cause - DCC. To gratuitous and badly paraphrase grahame - a proper modder would not consider waiting for a RTR solution, they would have soldered on a DCC chip many years ago.  :D

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  7. On 09/02/2022 at 19:47, grahame said:

     

    Yep, that's all part of the assembly requirements mentioned. It's what modelling is all about -

     

     

    Depends if you are modelling the railway as a whole or modelling individual vehicles. I saw a wonderfully modified/weathered Inverness Class 24 on a layout, hauling a rake of Mk2a coaches!

  8. 1 hour ago, AY Mod said:

     

    Many folk are a little out of practice for some reason. Be thankful they committed to getting back on the horse.

     

    One of our layouts was due to go to York; we had a full work out back in November and found out which operators/track/stock needed help or attention. While not everybody can have the layout up to practice, one of the ones today had at least one two day exhibition in the Autumn. But then again if two of your volunteer operators have a slanging match in front of the public you can only commiserate with owners.  

  9. I think that some of the layout operators could have done with some practice. A couple of previously good ones were a shambles - on one eight operators managed two up trains and no down trains in 10 mins.

     

    However, very few people were moaning - for many of us it's primarily a shopping trip.   

  10. 4 hours ago, t-b-g said:

    Just back from delivering and setting up our stand, which the usual suspects are not manning over the weekend. I felt rather conspicuous as I was the only person wearing a mask. If there were others, I didn't see them. Clearly the idea of wearing masks has gone by the wayside.

     

    One chap who brought the tables along told me that he had arrived late as his wife has Covid and he had to do the school run. He didn't seem to think that wearing a mask was worthwhile but he was happy to stand right next to me and breath on me.

     

    I am pretty content with my decision not to attend over the weekend. I felt quite exposed to risk with just a handful of people there and was glad to get out as quickly as possible.

     

    I wish everybody well for the show but it will be a little while yet before I am comfortable in such an environment.

     

     

     

    Like many control measures they are the option to apply last and therefore the one to go first (ERIC and all that). I should be taking a LFT before going and even with a lowered immune response I would rather people take a LFT beforehand rather than rely on something much less reliable.

     

    People getting too close is starting to get an occasional issue. I move back one step in that case, sufficient to be clear in most cases; if they follow I ask them to keep their distance. In many case the novelty of meeting people is still new enough for it to be unintentional - however, you do get a few oddballs.

     

    Given the size of the ground floor space, they should be able to get a decent level of ventilation. The smaller exhibition area on the 1st floor may be something to do first before getting a cup of tea while everybody else is bargain hunting.

  11. 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said:

    Hi Andy

     

    I had a meal there at the last show, it was very nice. I was a tad disappointed with the lack of Wallies, not that I am keen on them but a chippy without Wallies? Not heard of in London or Essex.

     

    Having lived in Ilford Fish and Chips is Cod cooked in oil, no thanks.

  12. I fully support loco owners in freedom to do things like this. However, people should have the freedom to say that owners (or lines) are being a wazzock and that it's naff, which this is. Being the son of Draper rail I am not surprised this has been inflicted on a non-GW loco. It would look quite good on thier 28xx though

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  13. 20 minutes ago, Revolution Ben said:

     

    We could, but it would be something of a meaningless comparison as the production quantities are vastly different:  Models destined for the UK market alone are likely to have a production run of around 2000-3000; Kato have said openly in the past that their minimum run for any given livery is 10,000; and in addition the vast majority of their Eurostars and now Class 800s they expect to sell in Japan, where the population is double that of the UK and the model railway market (dominated by N) market is conservatively estimated to be 40-50 times larger.

     

    If Farish - or Revolution, come to that - were producing 10,000 313s or 321s the price would be significantly reduced as all the fixed costs - design, tooling, paint masks, tampo masters - which comprise around 75% of the total price are spread over far more models.

     

    cheers

     

    Ben A.

     

    Scale of production is an issue, but for GF the best answer is to produce more seconds in a batch (or two or three different seconds) so reducing the fixed costs per model. It will then avoid modellers moaning about the lack of seconds. This is seemingly similar to NGS who have 245 yellow carflats left and none of the more obvious liveries. There can be anomalies but it's not rocket science. At least for revolution its clearer where the market is.  

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  14. 21 hours ago, TomE said:

     

    By way of comparison between 4 car EMU/BiMUs, using the RoS pre-order prices:

     

    The Farish 450 is:          £318.70

    The Farish 769 is:          £297.45

    The Revolution 321 is:  £289.50

    The Farish 319 is:          £271.96

     

    Of course if you were in at the start for the Revolution 321/320 they do seem like an absolute bargain now, but it shows that when you take away the early Revolution business model, the market price for a 4 car EMU is in that £270-£320 range now. 

     

    Tom. 

     

    BR should have built the the last three as 5 cars and we could have compared then to the Kato 800s - which are £180 :D

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  15. Code 55 is 30 years old, not exacly new. It was design to run with most models of the time so something will need to be designed in the early/mid 1980's for it to have problems. 

     

    As for Lima their locos were terrible, however, some of the stock was not bad - the Syphon is fine with some replacement bogies and the CCT is quite nice.

  16. 9 hours ago, cages_cage said:

    Hello,

     

    I was wondering how much mixing (if any) happened between the several types of Mk2 coaches (A/B/C/D/E/F) happened in train formations. I have some Hornby Mk2Es and Mk2Fs, but I am unsure if they should be running together in the same train.

     

    At various times and at various locations you could find a mix of Mk2s. So the ECML in the 1970's you could find Mk2a, Mk2d, e and f together. On the WCML in the late 1980's you could regularly find Mk3a, Mk2f and Mk2c on Euston services but Mk2e and f (plus Mk2d BFKs etc ) on cross country services.

     

    The  mix of Mk2a, b and c depended on the location.  For example transpennine north services had a different mix of types than the NSE services from Waterloo to Exeter. If you are modelling 1988 onwards the Platform 5 stock book has the sector pool codes so you can see what ran together.

     

    In addition to the Edinburgh to Queen Street Mk2z mentioned above, the SR Mk2z FKs were air braked (and ETH only) and a few Mk2a FK and BFK were converted to vac brakes. Depending on your time period its worth noting that some of the early Mk2z FK were steam heat only so limited their use.

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  17. 6 minutes ago, bmthtrains - David said:

    The 769 is a good addition to the 319 release, although whether I can ever justify £350 for a 4 car unit remains to be seen. Upgrading the 08 is further evidence of the market driving DCC in all models, but most interesting for me is the OO mk2f DVT in revised version, meaning an N gauge Network Rail one will likely follow next year.

     

    Prices inevitably will become a discussion point, and it was very interesting in the video where they talk about the OO collectors club wagon being too costly to produce for retailers to sell - at £65 direct from Bachmann, would that be around £80 a wagon if retailed? The economics of our hobby are changing, and complex models like that, as Bachmann’s decision suggests, may now be priced out of practicality for them. How this affects their choice of future releases remains to be seen. 

     

    David

     

    I was in a shop last week and they said that the Bachmann rep has said there was a completely 'new' Farish model going to be announced.  I think anybody's reaction depends on your definition of 'new'.  I know they are in love with the marketing speak but it does create expectations which they don't meet. One of the new livery 08's  is a nice fit but I would have preferred the benefit of keeping the old chassis  for the non-sound version.

     

    I will have to check the OO section to check the reference but DVTs came in Mk3b and Mk4 versions, Dapol already did a NR yellow Mk3b DVT

  18. 6 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

    Could it be that Bachmann simply used the compartment side of the FK twice (with appropriate new windows in the 'toilet' windws in the corridor side) to make their early style FO?

     

    I think they used the body from their Dia 36 RFO for their Dia 71 FO

  19. Using waybeams to support track saves mass and ensured the deck is visible for inspections. The problem is that it is structurally stiff and the whole deck is subject to live load strain leading to increased fatigue. Having a bed of ballast reduces fatigue loading on the bridge deck but is heavier and makes inspection for deck condition much more difficult (like post tensioning). Modern steel decks can support the dead weight of ballast and are more durable by reducing live fatigue loads.   Given had bad decks have got with waybeams (my colleague managed to put his foot through the deck of the Tay bridge in the 90's) god knows what state some of the ballasted bridges from the 1960s/70s have got to.

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