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On 17/02/2022 at 21:52, Hawk said:
Sorry for not posting a reply before, Pater!
I am indeed familier with your and Mikkels work, and a while back when I worked for the Norwegian Model railroad magazine “Mj-Bladet “ we ran articles from both of you. It did indeed inspire me a lot!
I am a painfully slow modeler, but there have been a little progress on the diorama:
Gosh, hi Hawk. Yes of course you did and what a splendid job you did as editor - sorry I never made the connection before. This diorama of yours is superb and the attention to detail is absolutely amazing. I’m not a patient modeler like you or Mikkel and this shows - for example, the painstaking research before you painted the walls and floor has given your scene such a sense of realism that a casual observer would be convinced that they are looking at a real location. This museum quality work, my friend. Sorry for not getting back sooner, but I just recently recovered from a long stint of illness. What are you doing now if you have moved on from MJ Bladet and how does the magazine fares now that you’ve left?
Regards Mike.
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Hi, very inspiring stuff. I’ve tried something similar in 4mm - see the rest of my stuff here at RMweb on my blog.
Above - shadow box roundhouse. A 20 inch by 20 inch display using a mirror to the right to double the scene. Lighting was achieved using car headlight bulbs shining through slits.
The station - 6ft long with a mirror again to double the length.
A depiction of Barrow Hill Roundhouse. This model is 3 ft x 3 ft model with a working turntable.
You May also want to look at Mikkel’s fantastic Farthing Layouts - particularly his warehouse which is both an external and internal display model. His work is also in 4mm scale and is much more detailed and exacting than my stuff.
He also tells great stories on his blog.
I look forward to seeing your workshop develop.
Regards Mike.
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Excellent issue guys. Shenston Road was a superb spread to read and mull over - the pics were amazing. Seen this on the EM gauge website and we are all in for another treat when the mag covers the Steelwork side of the layout next. It’s the type of layout that could only be built by an ex rail driver and it has loads of operational authenticity as a result. The layout brilliantly captures the Midlands during the era. I went to school on City Road and remember the smell of the brewery and also a disused trackbed that ran adjacent to the park. I also remember Lynton Square Shopping Center that the author mentions - thanks for conjuring up the great memories. What a treat to loll about on the holidays and read this issue.
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Really enjoyable issue - I’m really warming to the Pocketmag digital edition with all its extra content. The video of Heaton Lodge was really exciting. What a fantastic achievement - you really have to give Simon George a lot of credit for his determination in creating this highly realistic mammoth. I wish him really well on his tour with this and hope a lot of people go and see it - I’m sure this is layout going to provide a huge boost to the hobby. Just imagine being a kid again and going to see something like this for the first time!
The rest of the content was fab too especially Dave Hall’s micro shunting schemes. Well done yet again guys and I can’t wait to pick up my print copy tomorrow.
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Had a great evening reading the digital version. There are some fabulous photos of Pete Waterman’s new WCML layout. Thought the Pete Waterman/Andy York interview was very interesting. Waterman has a brilliantly pragmatic attitude with regards railway history - something sadly lacking in contemporary society. It’s really important to champion the history of the railways, a British gift to the world that laid the foundations of the modern world we enjoy today. Especially given that it was driven forward by largely self taught individuals from common backgrounds. Waterman cites his own example, but I think here of George Stephenson in particular, the father of the modern railway who made it all possible. His first application to parliament for the Liverpool Manchester line was thrown out due to survey inaccuracies - many Oxbridge educated engineers scoffing at his proposal to go directly over Chat Moss saying it was impossible to do. However, not only did he achieve this incredible feat but much heavier modern trains still run over the peat bog today on the original embankment! How’s that for a man who had to teach himself how to read and write? It’s always easy to forget that the future, and general betterment of mankind, is always driven forward by pragmatic individuals rather than the State.
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7 minutes ago, John Besley said:
How did you make that roof...
Hi John, I don’t know how to do the links on here, but if you go to my blog on here and find the recent entry ‘A Duches at Carlisle II’ there is a photo description about how I made the roof on there. Just scroll down a bit and you’ll find it.
Mike
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A couple of long exposure shots using an old cinema spotlight mounted above the layout.
I’ve always been fascinated by those old black and white photos that have captured streaming sunlight through Station canopies. It’s a really hard effect to pull off using artificial light. The spotlight was a lucky find and came from a guy that used to be a projectionist in the 1950’s. He’d had it in his loft for years and gave it me for the princely sum of a tenner.
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A couple of shots from my new layout - Carlisle Citadel Station.
I doubt a Green 105 worked the Silloth Branch but it's all I've got in the Green DMU department and it makes for a nice picture.
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Hi Locksley,
just having a browse this morning and happened on this fantastic project. That Sentinel is just amazing and the workshop is just brilliant - you just wish you could walk in those doors and explore it! That night shot photo of the workshop is a real piece of art - good photography of railway layouts is of great interest to me. Lots of inspiration here and I look forward to seeing more.
Mike
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42 minutes ago, Phil Parker said:
It's a building site now:
If you want to follow my build of the area, it's on my blog: http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/search/label/selly oak with occasional appearances in BRM.
Wow, what a great shot! Nothing ever stays the same forever. I’ve been away for 16 years now and the area has changed so much in that time. Nice to see the railway hasn’t though. Thanks for the link too - I’ve had a quick look and the layout looks fantastic. Loved the attention to detail especially with the bridge, arch and walls. Brilliant job.
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6 hours ago, Phil Parker said:
Interesting - I think that side was a woodyard, but almost certainly changed hands many times.
Cheers Phil,
I was looking at Google Earth today and noticed that the car lot is now a car park. I think they were called Selly Oak Motors and the still operate out of the area - a little further up from Heeley Road on the other side. They had this ruddy great dog they’d let out at night. He frightened the crap out of me when I first saw him, but he turned out to be a big softy with me in the end. They’d let me park up the cars that had been out on demo runs during the day - that was a real treat! The dog would growl if anyone came near the fence and saved me an awful lot of footwork during the night.
Funny how life twists and turns though - I got a permanent job at a fantastic place called The Bond in Digbeth shortly afterward (through the same security firm). During my ten years there I went back to Birmingham Uni and did an adult Degree so I found myself on the other side of that fence for a while as so to speak!
Mike.
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Another superb issue guys. Best one on the shelfs this month by far. Really enjoyed Andy's take on a Kings Cross throat and also Phil's look at Bridge Building. Always wanted to have a go at that particular view of a railway line and remember many a time going up that side road whilst going to work up the Bristol Road by bike. When the building trade went tits up during the early nineties I could only find work as a security guard for a while. I used to do the weekend shift on a car sales site the other side of the bridge on the left hand side. I can't remember what it was called, but they used to sell second hand Jaguars and the like. They were having trouble from drunk students at the time!
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Another great issue. Although an old fuddy duddy when it comes to reading from a computer screen I’m really starting to enjoy the digital version (although still an ardent fan of print!). Loved seeing the Kingstorre article again - a superb masterpiece of a layout. Another fantastic offering overall guys and also, oddly, loved the long Modelu advert at the back - the diorama pictures showing their products were simply stunning.
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My copy of MRJ arrived yesterday and I have had several enjoyable hours poring over the pictures and article. This is a fantastic layout and I have watched its development with great interest over the past 12 years (only the time I’ve been into railway modeling myself). No small wonder it has taken since 1983 to get it to where it is now. I love to see a book commissioned on CF, one that details its construction from start to current state. Try as I might, I can’t see the baseboard joints and I love to know how it all goes together. It must have taken a lot of precise planning from the start and has taken an enormous amount of resolve on behalf of the builders to see it to the end; did you all swear some sort of oath of loyalty at the beginning?! It should end up in a museum one day as a type of Pendon exhibit as the quality of the historical modeling is outstanding. The aerial views are brilliant and I can’t believe that you have gone as far as to model the Metropolitan Market so accurately. It all captures the time and place so perfectly. I’m also totally impressed by the running qualities in 2FS - in all the videos I’ve seen there isn’t one stagger or stall, it’s just totally smooth. A lovely layout that I’d love to come and see one day. Hat is off to you guys, what a truly breathtaking piece of railway art. Mike.
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Beautiful job. I had a go at at a Southern Pride 304 a couple of years ago and found it a really hard kit to build. Your painting is superb and makes the model for me. Quick build too! Well done.
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Hills of the North was a brilliant piece. It was a delight to watch the video of the layout. The way the banking engine worked in tandem with the train and then slowly tailed off at the top was like watching a magic trick. Really slick piece of control. Fab issue yet again and happy birthday Hornby. Looks like having Simon back in the driving seat will ensure Hornby will continue going from strength to strength for a good few years to come.
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3 hours ago, 2996 Victor said:
The macadam, as devised by John McAdam, relies on the interlocking of the stones in each layer to provide structural strength within the pavement's construction. A quick look a Wiki doesn't seem to mention how the stone should be graded - the graduated sizes of stone aid the "locking" as each smaller size fits in the gaps between the larger ones. The addition of tar and subsequently bitumen to the mix as a binder acts as stabiliser and keeps the structure intact (assuming no ingress of water and freeze-thaw!).
Its quite likely that the lower layer shown in the photograph is the original unbound macadam. Most minor roads in England consist either of an unbound macadam as per the photograph which has been overlaid by bitumenous materials, or they are simply layers of tar/bitumen and chipping accumulated over time.
In modern pavement construction there is an un-bound layer of coarse stone (sub-base) beneath the bound layers. There would also be a thick capping layer beneath the sub-base where ground is soft. Above the sub-base are three bound layers, the base, the base-course, and the surface course, all diminishing in thickness and aggregate size as they approach the surface.
For anyone who's interested in modern pavement design in the UK, I can do no better than recommend the Design Manual for Roads and Bridges
We used to call the base layer of stone Scalpings back in the day. They were anything from 6 to 8 inch long by 4 inches wide and were roughly cut shards of granite. This layer could be up to 18 inches thick depending on the ground conditions. They were a devil to dig out for road crossings (for services like water, electric or gas) afterward. These were covered over by smaller stones we’d refer to as 40 mil Down (down simply meaning ever decreasing diameter down to dust). All of this was compacted by vibrating rolling machines or compacting plates (these were awful machines to use as they had to be walked from behind - not the lovely current types that have seats etc.). A base layer of tarmac with 10 to 20 mm stones was then laid and rolled followed by a fine grain topping layer. All of this was for major/minor road construction - motorways were a different beast altogether and were deeper layered because of the heavier traffic use etc.
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Another pleasant half hour sifting through your first blog. There are some brilliant modelers on RMweb - the likes of Mikkel and Alex Duckworth stand tall amongst them. You have what Alex calls ‘the eye’ and you have it in spades. You are indeed an artist rather than just a modeler. I still can’t quite get my head around the fact that Monk’s Gate and Midland in Bristol are your first layouts, it’s no wonder you’ve caused a bit of splash on here. When I saw that first picture of the Goods Office I swear I was looking at the real thing; the scribing and painting of the brick walls was modeling perfection. The idea about printing on the crates with Laser print and nail varnish was also genius; how on earth did you come up with that? I look forward to seeing much more from you and I’m seriously thinking of going to 7mm from 4mm myself because of your layouts. Really inspiring stuff and thank you for sharing it on here.
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I only came to this beautiful layout via MRJ yesterday. It is a truly stunning piece of work and I spent a pleasant time reviewing the whole blog. I lost count of the amount of oos and ahhs emanated along the way. Despite the speed of this build, the attention to detail is incredible and it seems to have been wrought from hands that have been modeling for a whole lifetime. Yet, I understand from the MRJ article, that you have only been practicing the hobby for a few years since your family has all grown up! There is always a danger that layouts try to stuff in too much, yet your creation is exactly the right balance. Truly blown away by this work and my mouth waters at the thought of future creations from you. Midland in Bristol is testament to what can be achieved in the hobby when the creative juices are allowed to flow untapped. A lovely work of art that has been precisely executed.
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What an excellent thread. All that BR Blue - what a treat. How come I’ve only just found it now? So glad I have - wonderful stuff. Thanks so much for sharing these shots with us. Loads of inspiration. Mike
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Excellent issue this month. Plenty of old favorites for D-Day celebrations plus a new one (Remagen) I’ve never seen before. Particularly loved the picture at the bottom of page 52 - it just looked so neat and very realistic for N gauge - remarkable. The Kibri crane build was brilliant - looks like a great model to have a go at. What a shame about that D-Day diorama going missing at Hornby! Those numpties that took over a few years ago - the ones that also threw out all those kit moulds - just didn’t have a clue about the hobby. What a shame - just imagine how many kids were inspired by that layout down the years on a visit to Margate.
Month in and month out, BRM just keeps giving. Well done the team.
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Great issue this month. Plenty of interest and loved the article on Charwelton - the photography was particularly excellent with those broody skies and sunlight. Really crisp and that brickwork looked so real. Well done everyone yet again. Best mag in the market in my opinion.
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Just watched the second episode. Really enjoyed both. Simon K came across really well and I can’t understand why Hornby let this very competent operator go in the first place. At least he has passion for the business; something obviously lacking in those who ran it prior to his return. I was really bemused by the reaction of Hattons and Rails re the 66 and Terrier. That’s just good business for you; it’s all about competition in a free market isn’t it? Thought the faux rage of the guy from Rails was a little hypocritical; why does he think it’s okay to use underhand tactics (the Banner) and not expect the same treatment from other competitors? Liked the cool and dignified way SK handled the badgering he got from both of them. Good luck to SK and I sincerely hope he succeeds with his difficult task of getting Hornby to turn a corner. As May said - Hornby, Airfix and Scalextric defined my childhood. How sad it would be to see it all go to the wall.
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Worthy winner. Well done on such an excellent build.
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November 2022 issue of BRM + WOR TV
in BRM Magazine
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Brilliant issue. York Station and Roundhouse are to be highly commended and the model wholly captures the atmosphere of the prototype. It’s so hard to get that curved roof right and when done properly it is a thing of real beauty to look at. Whoever the modeler was that said that a curve is infinitely better than a straight line was absolutely spot on. I am looking forward to the promised updates for this layout.