TomJ

Sorry - I should have been clearer! I did indeed mean a dual frog juicer - one output for each rail. I went with juicers because I’ve used them before for point frogs so stuck with what I knew! What I wasn’t so sure was where to put it or even whether I need two dual juicers Thanks to everyone for the advice. I’ll try to wire it up this evening and I’ll let you know how I get on. You may hear the swearing on here!!

Thanks so much. Really appreciated

I must confess to not really understanding the difference between using a frog juicer or a reverse module! What is the difference and which one do I want?? The main criteria is I don’t want to have to stop trains but allow them too run through Would either of these work?

Not sure if what I am trying to achieve is actually possible!! On my double track oval I have a reverse loop to get trains back to the terminus. Hopefully this picture demonstrate this So I was planning to wire it up like this - using a double frog juicer which I’m pretty sure would work But then I wondered if I could use the empty space top left for a bit of a yard or engine shed. And if so how would I wire it - and indeed could it be done? Do I need another juicer below the point? How do I wire the yard to keep all the tracks live and stop my sound fitted locos going quiet? Am I asking too much of DCC?? Many thanks

Thanks for explaining. So if the decoder switch is basically a micro switch but without the alignment issue then it ought to be more reliable than the old fashioned use of switches? If so it would seem daft to buy a decoder with that option (because I like the DCCConcepts products) and then pay for a juicer to basically do the same thing as well

So if I’m honest I don’t fully follow the discussion above!!! I’m a simple soul who doesn’t fully understand wiring or DCC. I model in N gauge and use Peco solenoids. I never managed to get their micro switches to work reliably so the frog juicer seemed like the answer to my prayers! Given all this what I’m trying to work out is what is the best way to switch the frog polarity on my new layout. I’m ruling out micro switches. So should I go for frog juicer or use the switching facility on thr DCCConcepts decoder - I’ll admit I don’t really know how either work!

After years of failing to get Peco micro switches to work reliably when I was on DC I was delighted to discover frog juicers when I switched to DCC! Using them alongside DCCConcepts solenoid decoders worked perfectly. Now 10yrs later I discover than the basic decoder has been replaced with a slightly more an advanced that seems to include frog switching - the ADS-8fs. It would be cheaper to use this rather than buy a cheaper decoder and a frog juicer. Is there any disadvantage to this plan other than extra wiring (seems like you need a track feed for every point unlike the juicer. And does it work reliably? Any advice and tips gratefully received!

Right until the late 80s the 1615 from Fort William to Mallaig was designated a ‘mixed train’ - with the most often seen wagons being fuel. So clearly no ‘ban’ on 4-wheeled stock running with passenger coaches there

So it seems that they were more common at the busy city terminus with intensive commuter services - and perhaps less so other stations. My ‘Minories’ is a medium sized terminus in a smallish city so I think I’ll have the loco spur extended and doubled up as another platform for parcels or perishables. Thanks everyone for the details - I especially liked the aerial shot of Moorgate

Now many plans - especially those by CJF have a terminus with a loco spur. The classic being minories - where the loco spur was inspired by the one at Liverpool Street Met. But how common were dedicated loco spurs at stations? Or would the station pilot just rest in any spare platform, siding or headshunt?

It would also be two times oversize for my N gauge branch sadly!

I’m pretty sure the WR borrowed it in the 50s (after the Wath electrification) to trial on the gradients in the West Country. It looked a little odd on the single track china clay branches! Im sure I didn’t just dream this…..

I didn’t realise they were coming out again. I worried they were a discontinued product