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  1. Evening all! I figured that it only makes sense for me to create a proper workbench thread for my Pullman projects, and I can cross-post to my conventional workbench thread here. Welcome to Preston Pa- I mean, welcome to Alexandra's Pullman Playgr- no, that doesn't quite sound right either... ~ The Proposal~ As all three constituents and then the Southern ran quite a large number of Pullman services, be it individual cars in trains or full Pullman-only rakes, it made sense to include at least a handful on Blackstone (Hastings in the very distant future), typically in either a Maunsell R1 set (Specifically set 467, suitably shortened), or Thanet/Continental stock. Blackstone did see some boat services, so it doesn't strain credulity to have a couple of examples of these coaches. There will be more SECR Pullmans than LBSC, purely as a result of the loading gauge- the SER reached Blackstone first- but there will be a line (somehow!) reaching the town, built by the LBSC, with a more generous L.G. that should allow for larger locomotives and cars. I won't run any Pullman-only sets, as I don't think the station warrants it. ~ The Cars ~ Car No 34, 3rd Class: This car is a relatively simple conversion. Repaint the upper fascia board into cream, new transfers, floor-mounted Kadees, a white roof, and paper corridor connections. Shouldn't take too long, the worst part most likely will be sourcing (affordable) transfers. Car No 3, Second Class (Princess Regent): This care is going to take a lot of work. Aha. It began as a Roundhouse/Pullman Palace Car kit which I cut down in length to a scale 63'6''; I am following a diagram from the June 1981 Model Railway Constructor magazine. The underframe was built as intended, though the queen-posts had to be brought inboard, and the bogie mounts moved slightly, too, to match a 41' bogie centre. The roof needs some more sanding, possibly a little more filling. Car ends need either new windows cutting in, or the old ones filling and justifying somehow (''it's reaching the end of its service life, let's just block up the end windows, lads!'). Body sides... Well, I'm still scared of etching, so I think I'll get in touch with Worsley Works and see if they can't do the etch for me. Underframe requires some equipment, bogies are still on pre-order. The interior will be done once the bodywork is finished, and I imagine I'll finish it in either green or blue. Clerestory cars often were dual-lighted (gas and electric) and so I will fit a small strip of LEDs in a warm white in the clerestory itself, and have illuminated tables. The clerestory will also make use of the green glazing included with the source kit. As above, old-standard livery, white roof (possibly with slightly heavier weathering than the other cars), floor-mounded Kadees, paper corridor connections. Also required are (very) large LBSC-pattern buffers; I'm still looking for a source of these. This is a long-term project, certainly. Monaco, First Class: This shouldn't take long at all. Repaint the upper fascia board into cream, new transfers, floor-mounted Kadees, a white roof, and paper corridor connections. Piece of cake. Amelia Anne, First Class Brake: This car is halfway to being finished. The roof details need replacing (dyspraxia got in the way of aligning the vents!) and it will eventually be sprayed white. Match board paneling also needs fitting, though this is quite a challenge to cut straight, so I'm on the hunt around the house for the guillotine... Once these are fitted, the car will be sprayed into Madder Lake, and I may attempt the gold lining myself with a bow pen (Railway Gods give me strength.) Floor-mounted Kadee on the 'inside' end, the other will receive a Dingham loop for automatic coupling. New buffers are required; I think I may use the Keen examples for this... Possibly. Otherwise it'll be white-metal examples, which I have in stock. Glazing will have the window-frames directly penned on. Illuminated seating will be fitted, sourced from a scrapped Pullman project. The lighting requires a little work but it shouldn't be too bad. Corridor connection for the inside end, again. Etched brass doors are also to be fitted.
  2. After a short (4 year) hiatus, from modelling in general, and also 4mm modeling, I have decided to make a return. This thread will mainly be detailing and outlining the motive power for my planned layout/representation of Guildford shed. The thing that really prompted me was seeing the wealth of SR offerings from all the different manufacturers, it was an extremely reasonably priced S15 from Hattons that kicked things off again a few weeks ago. First up was detailing one of the excellent Hornby Maunsell coaches. Painting the door at the end, adding a belt to the alternator (if that's what it actually is) flipping the bogie and removing the rear most coupling. I also quickly tried to make the interior a little less plastiky, you can't really see anything anyways, but I know it's there! To bring it back to the S15, which I have to say is an absolutely amazing creation. One thing that really stood out was the fall-plate, a small detail I know, but all the small details are what make a model - right? So I decided that the Schools class and the T9 both needed a change. Nile, of this parish, used this technique, and I have shamelessly used it myself. Here it is sitting between the rear most handrails of the cab, you can also see here the tender drawbar that I made from plastikard, as the Hornby one was too far away on the 'long' gap, and too close on the 'short' gap. Here it is with some mesh PVA'ed on top to look like checkerplate. it can pivot up and down, and I think it's an improvement over the oddly angled glued fall plate these locos come with. The T9 doesn't have the mesh on yet, but the cab is so narrow, I might try and attach the fireman to the fallplate, we shall see. The final thing I've been working on, is SR route discs, i'm still unsure if these were used with reporting numbers on them during SR days, or if it was all just post nationalization. A good use of some 7mm transfers that would otherwise be in the bin. That's all for now, I'm currently in the process of sketching out plans for a layout. Updates as they happen, thanks for reading guys!
  3. Hello everyone! This is my first own thread on RWeb, and I hope you'll all find it interesting enough to follow. The basic gist of this thread is to outline and trace the progress of my various projects that are ongoing in terms of rolling stock. As I'm a student I haven't got my own layout (yet) though I hope this will change in the summer as I may have space available at my grandmother's, with whom I live when I am not in term time at university (I'm studying quite far from home, hence the 'second home' with her.) My proposed layout is to be set roughly around Hastings and Saint Leonards circa 1920-1930 which will give me scope for plenty of liveries, and for various forms of rolling stock in different stages of semi-standardisation or modification. The projects currently standing are as follows: ex LSWR K10 4-4-0 from a GBL T9 and Hornby spares ex LSWR C8 4-4-0 from a GBL T9 and Hornby spares (this locomotive and the K10 were both transferred to the Eastern section during the early days of grouping for suitability trials, as well as a couple of T9s) Pullman rake made up of two pre-1928 matchboard sides and one 1928 steel car (this will most likely be modified). Also in sights is a Railroad Pullman to be hacked and modified into an SECR Pullman similar to 'Topaz'. Twelve wheel Pullman clerestory, similar in design to a Brighton Pullman car, possibly to be named 'Rye Harbour' or 'Hastings' Five Maunsell restriction 1 or 0 coaches, four of which are the Graham Farish models. These are to be repainted and receive new corridor ends, possibly new bogies when finances allow. The old Hornby coach will need to be lowered in ride height, also, to match the others. Pullman 'Pup' baggage car, from a toy my siblings gave me a few years ago and a scratch-built six wheel chassis. Ex Wisbech and Upwell tramway coach for the Kent and East Sussex fictional extension of the line from Hastings via Tenterden to Ashford I will hopefully upload some photos soon of these projects; granted my pace isn't the best but I try to work on these projects when I can. Obviously being a student presents an issue financially but I very rarely buy anything brand new; I prefer to improve what I can. I am not a scale modeller by any means but I do strive for accuracy where it can be achieved. For instance, in terms of Maunsell bogie stock I will try to find any examples of low-window stock I can, and if these are of the 0/1 restriction, even better. Liveries will be afforded a little imagination- I doubt Maunsell settled on a livery straight away for the railway post-war and so some slight deviations from the known olive scheme will be afforded, perhaps cream and olive on a coach or two, probably an old four or six wheel coach. The locomotives will be presented in all forms of liveries, wartime grey and black, weathered olive, umber, SECR fully-lined... I like variety, what can I say? The interesting aspects of these projects will most likely be the lining (I do have a bow-pen) and the painting, which I hope to do with my airbrush (which has not left it's box yet... oh.) Anyway, I look forward to keeping you all informed, and I hope to update this thread soon. - Alexandra
  4. Hi all after a few years of modelling I thought I would brave it and share what I have made so far. currently in the pipeline I have my own personal exhibition layout Ropley based on the Mid Hants Railway in 2010-2013. I have chosen Ropley as I have many childhood memories here and is a place I'm very fond of. Ropley was started I was new to the modelling world. Ropley is based in preservation era something I have only seen done on a few other heritage lines. Ropley is based on the Mid-Hants Railway in Hampshire and is where the railway main base is for it railways fleet. here at Ropley they store all their locos here and is where restoration projects take place. something I am keen to represent in model form as it is something that isn't done everyday for most layouts. At Ropley other than a 2 line platform passing on a single line, there is also the main restoration sheds, a carriage repair shop, boiler shop, loco yard for all operational and stored locos, and is also where the diesels are kept as well as the steamers.
  5. Post your photos of locomotives from the Big Four and Pre-Grouping days who never got repainted into BR liveries.
  6. An OP for this topic... I will post some actual content later on! All the best, EDIT, 16/12/18: Thread title changed to reflect lack of future CAD activity. EDIT, 27/12/18: Thread title changed to reflect the lack of pre-grouping content! EDIT, 04/08/19: Thread title changed to reflect the further lack of pre-grouping content!!! EDIT, 29/08/20: Thread title changed again to reflect a potential new revival of pre-grouping content.
  7. Welcome to my new thread I hope you all will enjoy. GWR DUKEDOG JAVALIN KIT page 1 LSWR S15 ACE PRODUCTS KIT page 4 LSWR M7 DJB KIT page 13. LMS 1262 rebuild starts SLATERS KIT page 16. LMS Jubilee class, from an old Oakville kit. Page 20 LNER F1 Gladiator kit, ex Northstar. Page 24 After a lot of thought I decided to move my work from my blog to this thread. Icame to the conclusion that although I prefer the Blog format I feel that there are fewer people looking at them, So as I am starting something new I thought it was a good time to start. I will still be my own models on Petes workbench, this is purelyfor anything I build that is not for me. If you have not seen my blog you have missed out a quite a diverse list of builds. But for here the following will be progressing through the works. First up will be a Dukedog. This has been started but someone else,sosome rebuilding may well be needed. This will be followed orjoined by a LSWR/SR/BR S15 class, a LMS/BR Jubilee class, and a GWR/BR Saint class, which is a bit of a hienz 57, and as such I am looking forward to doing it. The only thing I have done on the Dukedog is to take the frames apart. It was compensated on the drivers but bogie was doing nothing. I would like to giveit compensation as per Mike Sharmen and get the bogie taking some of the weight, This also means that I can get 2/3rds of the locos weight on the drivers. much better to be able to use some of the mass forward of the front drivers on traction. Next jobis to tack the frames together and get all the modifications done for the compensation. I will be trying to get the G6 closer to paint whilst this is going on so I do not expect fast progress on this loco.
  8. Ilfracombe After coming back into the hobby around 3 years ago I joined my local club the Farnham and District MRC and learned many tips skills and tricks to building a model railway. Previously I had a layout in both my bedroom and in a loft conversion as a child however as I got older my interest waned and I sold everything off keeping a few precious items in storage. I began to build a model railway that could be stored in a cupboard in the flat I was living in at the time and practised all of the skills I had acquired with this new model railway. Over the last 3 years I had built the baseboards, laid track, wired the layout and began to work on the scenery. One constant however was that I had to keep fixing and adjusting things due to me using cheap materials and trying to cut corners where possible. At the end of 2018 I decided that enough was enough and that it was time to put my previous layout down to experience and to build something new and more robust. The previous layout had been set in a fictional extension of the North Cornwall railway therefore my stock is of a Southern Region BR flavour. This new model railway was to be a little further back up the line and based on Ilfracombe as after having a look through track plans I discovered that it was possible to build much of the track plan in my 12ft long space. Ilfracombe also has the benefit of carriage sidings so I can put my over abundance of coaches in them.... The Devon belle also operated with the observation cars and I thought that this would create some operational interest when reading up about the subject. The track plan does have compression in length which has resulted in a reduction of the carriage sidings, the loco shed and coaling stage being off of the turntable and the platforms being shorter than in reality. I hope that even with these compromises that the track plan and buildings will still make it obvious where it is based on. The one thing I have definitely chosen to leave out is the incline on the way out of the station but with the compression this probably makes sense. The layout will be DCC controlled which I am new to as the previous model railway was DC. So far I have fitted a number of locos with decoders and have installed sound into one of my Bulleid light Pacifics. This has been a lot of fun however can be tricky therefore lots of playing around has been needed. I will be using Code 75 peco points and flexi track however I will be spacing the sleepers out to the correct scale , a time consuming task but I think that it looks well worth it once done. Once I had settled on the track plan which I had designed in SCARM I printed it out 1:1 onto paper and joined the sheets together to give me a full size idea of how it would look. A little tweaking here and there was still needed to ensure that stock fitted within certain parts of the track plan but mostly I was happy with everything. I next went to my local timber merchant with a list of all the lengths of wood that I would need cut from 9mm ply and by the end of the afternoon I had a phone call from the shop asking me to come and pick my pile of wood up. Surprisingly this actually came to a reasonable price compared to when I was having a look at getting laser cut boards which are now readily available. Alignment dowels and catches were purchased from modelrailwaybaseboards.com and T nuts and bolts from my local hardware store. Boards were glued and screwed together clamped and then left to dry. Braces were added across the boards to ensure that they stay square. This left me with something like this: Holes were cut into the baseboards where embankments were to be formed this also meant that I had to amend some of the cross braces to achieve this . I was able to reuse the legs from my previous model railway however this time I used the piggyback method therefore only one board has 4 legs. Each of these legs are attached via T nuts and bolts are screwed through. All of the legs also have adjustable feet to contend with and undulations in the floor. Toggle catches and alignment dowels also ensured that all the boards lined up correctly. Once I was happy that everything was level and correct I disassembled everything and began to paint the boards to seal them. Once they had dried everything was put back together and I attached the track plan onto the baseboards and I have began to create a mood board of pictures that I can find of Ilfracombe on the back scene boards. The Current state of play. Next up will be to build the fiddle yard which goes round the corner to create and L shape and lay the cork base onto the boards. I have also decided to build a lever frame to operate the signals and points on the layout as I am a signalman and deal with levers on a daily basis so thought it would be novel to control my model railway by them too. I will also soon order the extra points that I do not have yet. Thanks for reading Pete
  9. I thought it was about time I started a thread for my current project. After deciding that my old layout Cowes just wasn't working, I've started a new one based loosely on Cranleigh on the Horsham-Guildford line. As it's a 'based on', I've shifted it a few miles south, to somewhere between Plaistow and Kirdford, on an imaginary line running from Billingshurst to Haslemere, with this being the principle intermediate station, along with smaller stations at Wisborough Green and Chiddingfold. The track plan is Cranleigh, with one of the sidings flipped round to serve an industry (I've not decided what yet, possibly a brickworks like Southwater). The buildings will be typical LBSCR Sussex types, probably mixing and matching from around the county rather than sticking rigidly to the Horsham-Guildford (e.g. picking an earlier style of Saxby & Farmer 'box). Fiddle yard will be a 7 or 8 road traverser (bottom left of the track plan, just two roads shown for clarity), and I'm hoping to keep all the curves above 36" - though the FY entrance will probably have to go down to 30". So far most of the baseboards are built, and I've started track laying. Progress won't be fast... And the box diagram (more explanation in this thread) - this is basically Cranleigh with a couple of modifications. The three starters all have shunt-ahead arms underneath, and the down home (3) has a calling-on arm underneath, which I presume was to allow freight into the up platform - I might replace this with a normal arm (or a bracket) to allow passenger trains to use that platform in both directions. Cranleigh had regular terminating trains from Guildford and so the up platform was signalled for down departures. The distant signals (marked 0) will be fixed at caution.
  10. Many years ago I bought an unboxed partially built Southeastern Finecast LBSCR/SR E1 loco with a view to finishing it, several years later I bought two SEF E1 chassis one built to 00 gauge and not working, the second started but having rather mangled axle holes again to 00 gauge. Also in the distant past I bought a Wills E1 with a cast whitemetal chassis with a MW/Airfix MRRC 005 5 pole motor, built well but with no cab detail painted in Urie sage green with LBSCR letters in white!!! The body was reasonably well built, but had been superglued together and the chassis fixing nut had become unstuck, Came with instructions and it looks like all the bits are there. I just never got round to building it Last Autumn I bought a coreless motor from Chris at High Level and recently I got into a discussion about re-building an E4 chassis from EM to 00 gauge (another member bought a loco on Ebay and found it was not to 00 gauge) I phoned Chris about a gearbox and he asked about why I had not tried out the motor. Out came my chassis jig and the chassis was built to its base form (no brake gear) as it was to be a test bed for the motor I fitted some old Romford 18mm wheels and got a rolling chassis Being to EM gauge, I could only use the centre spacer from the kit and fitted a Comet spacer front and rear. Next up for the chassis was a trip to the paint shop Whilst waiting for the paint to dry I built a High Level Road Runner gearbox and fitted the motor, both worked together very well
  11. Morning All - I am trying to compile, for my own reference, a list of what options are available for the modelling of all SR EMU Types and some of the BR Types. I have got so far, and have yet to complete it by a long stretch, but here is what I'm up to so far: Any help in completing this to its fullest extent would be very much appreciated. SR and BR(S) EMU Modelling SR 2-BIL Hornby RTR (From >£70) Ian Kirk Plastic Kit – (£45 - Requires Wheels and Power Unit to complete) Ajay Models Resin Kit (£135 Unpowered, £184 With wheels and Power Unit) SR 2-HAL (Also 2-PAN) Hornby RTR from >£80 SR 2-HAL (‘Tin HAL’) Ajay Models Resin Kit (£135 Unpowered, £181 With wheels and Power Unit) SR 2-NOL Roxey Mouldings – Etched Brass (£129 Per Unit, Requires Wheels and Power Unit) SR 2-SL Rue D’etropal 3D Print SR 2-WIM Rue D’etropal 3D Print SR 3-SUB Roxey Mouldings – Etched Brass (£189 Per Unit, Requires Wheels and Power Unit) Rue D’etropal 3D Print Ajay Models Resin Kit Previously Available. Possible home 3D Print? SR 3-SUB (ex-LSWR) Roxey Mouldings (Etched) Rue D’etropal 3D Print Possible home 3D Print? SR 4-BUF BSL/Phoenix Kit - Aluminium SR 4-COR Silver Fox Models Conversion (Approx £80, excluding Bachmann Bulleid Coaches) Marc Models RTR (£950 – Kit slightly cheaper) BSL/Phoenix Kit - Aluminium SR 4-DD Ajay Models Resin Kit SR 4-GRI BSL/Phoenix Kit - Aluminium SR 4-LAV Ajay Models Resin Kit Previously Available. SR 4-RES BSL/Phoenix Kit - Aluminium SR 4-SUB (4101-4110) Some parts available through No Nonsense Kits. SR 4-SUB (4111 Onwards) Ajay Models Resin Kit Previously Available. Some parts available through No Nonsense Kits SR 5-BEL Hornby RTR Available (>£250) Golden Arrow RTR Previously Available. Wrenn RTR Previously Available. SR 6-CIT Cabs available from Silver Fox. SR 6-PAN Cabs available from Silver Fox. SR 6-PUL Cabs available from Silver Fox, Pullman could be from Hornby BEL. SR W&C 1940 Stock (Class 487) Roxey Mouldings kit previously available. BR MLV (Class 419) Bachmann RTR >£50 DC Kits Plastic Kit - £12 (Body Only) Southern Pride Models Kit MJT Etches and Castings Available BR 2-EPB (Class 416 – Bulleid) Some parts available from No Nonsense Kits. BR 2-EPB (Class 416 – BR) Bachmann RTR >£100 Southern Pride Models Kit MJT Etches and Castings Available Replica Railways Bash BR 2-HAP (Class 414 – Also Class 413 4-CAP and Class 418 2-SAP) Forthcoming Bachmann RTR >£150 Southern Pride Models Kit MJT Etches and Castings Available Replica Railways Bash BR 2-HAP (Class 414, Bulleid) Ajay Models Resin Kit Previously Available BR 4-CEP (Class 411) Bachmann RTR >£150 Southern Pride Models Kit MJT Etches and Castings Available Replica Railways Bash BR 4-EPB (Class 415 - Bulleid) Some parts available from No Nonsense Kits. BR 4-EPB ( Class 415 – BR) Bash from 2x Bachmann RTR Motor Cars and 2x Bachmann Suburbans. >£250 Southern Pride Models Kit MJT Etches and Castings Available Replica Railways Bash BR 2H (Class 205) Bachmann RTR >£100 Southern Pride Models Kit MJT Etches and Castings Available Replica Railways Bash
  12. So... Where to start. This idea, or at least the idea of modelling something 'London area' has been brewing for many years, and included the accumulation of assorted (very assorted) London Transport stock as well as an abortive attempt to model part of Lillie Bridge depot that might be revived at some point. There are a multitude of reasons why I've wanted to set a layout in the capital for so long, including a strong interest in early electrics, the Underground, passing interests in most of the companies that served London. So, as a result of this 13-year interest I've... built a multitude of rural layouts: Fordhampton - SR Rural Branch Terminus Sutton Road - A promising name, but a basic roundy-roundy styled as a generic light railway. Rural. Salvington - LBSCR Wayside Station Kimmeridge - 009 on a tea tray. Odiham - My most recent completion. Ex-LSWR branch terminus set in 1939. Blackstone West - My main layout project, set in a fictional town on the Kent Coast. There are two exceptions to this past form: Ealing East - Sort of Western region yard, trying to be set in West London. Lillie Bridge - The abortive LT layout. Hopefully this offers a decent background to help explain what I want to do with Bermondsey (Canal Road). Of the layouts pictured above, Ealing East was the first and I think that might explain why it's taken me 7 years to return to the urban theme properly. It was 3ft x 1ft, based off of a plan in Railway Modeller and incorporating two levels. It was great fun to build and at the time I was very proud of it as my first almost-solo layout build. It even got exhibited a couple of times, but it also showed me how hard it is to model urban scenery. It's not easy to model a rural scene convincingly either, but once worked out it is often simpler (and can be cheaper) to execute. In my case they have also been quicker to execute - Salvington was built in 24 hours for an exhibition (!!), Odiham was originally built in a couple of days though has been worked on a little bit since. However, it is difficult to fit an interesting rural layout in a small space - most of us can't hope to recreate The Vale Scene. None of the completed layouts above were interesting to operate, nor were they much better than dioramas to look at. Blackstone West has so far proven to be enjoyable to operate, though is yet to be finished and due to the lockdown restrictions isn't accessible for the immediate future. All of this, along with some additional prodding from my friends who built the superlative Harford Street has led to a new plan - Bermondsey (Canal Road). The layout is intended to fulfil the following requirements: - It must be small enough to be built and operated at home. - It must use a reasonable amount of stuff I already have, particularly stock. - It must be interesting to operate, and also to watch at an exhibition. - It must provide me with something fresh. - It must be of at least equal standard to Odiham and I will aspire to Harford Street. The current plan measures 5ft long and I think about 15ins-18ins wide (Britain's been metric for 55 years, and yet I use imperial... go figure...). I intend for it to be split into two boards as one 5ft long board would be a nightmare! Initially it will be entirely self-contained but I intend adding a separate fiddle yard later, possibly. Track plan: I haven't got a plan to hand, so will add that later, but as the 3D renders below will hopefully convey, the layout consists of a two-platform station on the upper level, a reasonable yard of as-yet-undecided purpose and a tramway leading into a depot. The scenery is merely a suggestion, but as I have kits for all of the buildings shown they are the most likely candidates currently. Overall view from the front. From stage right. And stage left. Looking 'West' from the yard. The Emergency Water Supply formed from a row of bombed-out houses, utilising the cellars. (More on the setting later.) The tram depot and change pit. (More on that later too!) View from an Embankment-bound tram emerging from the depot. And from one going the other way! The SR station, which won't look quite like this (Again, I will explain later.) And a closing view. Apologies for the ridiculously long post, but I wanted to get a decent amount in to begin with. I'll go into more detail about the setting and the trams in the next couple of posts. Thanks for reading - It's a bit of a feat!
  13. I'd like to introduce my layout 'Portland', a foray into 00 finescale modelling. The layout has been in development for a number of years, however a booked exhibition date has seen some signifcant progress recorded, but there is still lots to do! First, I shall set the scene: Portland depicts a fictional branchline extension to the main South Western Mainline onwards from Weymouth in Network SouthEast days. Of course, the branch existed in reality until 1965, but evidence of its existence today has all but vanished. The fictional Portland receives NSE services from Bournemouth & Weymouth - being unelectrified the majority of these consist of Class 33 and 73 loco hauled services - as well as local services from Bristol, and the occasional Inter-Regional service. Portland has a small servicing depot and associated yard to host a variety of freight operations, including Portland stone, sand, and Speedlink services. Oil is also delivered to the island from Fawley, to service the MPD but also other amenities close by. As ever, an element of modellers licence will prevail allowing me to run a bit more of a varied timetable and unusual trains! Here is the track diagram: Having built two layouts previously but never completed, I have learnt from many mistakes, and taken advice from this forum and my local model club (Winchester Railway Modellers) which has proved invaluable. I am by no means a confident modeller, but am always open to learning how to do something I have not done before. This became particularly noteable when deciding to move away from Peco track, having grown tired of the RTR look and striving for something more accurate, without the hassle of moving to EM or P4. I now very much enjoy track building having purchased a C&L kit to get me going, and then moving to Templot, before custom building all my trackwork for both Portland and the Winchester club's new layout Redbridge. Trackwork therefore is a combination of C&L trackbases and handbuilt pointwork, built to 00-Finescale standards, providing smooth running for Ready To Run locos but offering a more finescale look. The layout is constructed from 9mm plywood, with appropriate crossbracing. It is an unusual layout being an L shape and viewed from the inside, but like all young lads it was built to fit my bedroom! Additional fixtures are to be built to allow the layout to be fully operational at exhibition, but the layout can be operated in its standard guise. Control is provided via NCE DCC systems with some Sound fitted locos utilised. As mentioned progress has been slow for a number of years, but with an invitation received to this years Brockenhurst exhibition there has been significant progress! The likelihood is the layout will not be fully completed for Brockenhurst (28th/29th May 2016) but will be exhibited 'in progress'. Having said this I am confident much of the bulk scenic work will be ready, and it will be more of the fine details that will need adding. Perhaps this can be done over the weekend whilst I let my fellow club members play trains! I will upload some decent photographs in due course, but here are a couple of crappy phone pics to give you a flavour for the time being. Whilst the layout is primarily set in NSE days, my modelling era stretches from NSE to the present day, so this will explain some of the locos currently residing in the MPD! More updates in due course. Just over 3 months to go, the clock is ticking ! Cheers, Rich
  14. Hello All! How is everyone on this fine Bank Holiday Morning? I spent last night and this morning working on the signalling plan for my latest layout - a project that has been on/off since 2013. And I am slowly making progress - recently I've been looking at the signalling on the layout and I am slightly concerned that I am over signalling it with respect to the economy that any company paying for the installation would be casting an eye over. Above is the signal diagram for my layout, a larger version is located Here, as I didn't want the embedded image to be too large for a forum post. I am slightly concerned as I said that I am over signalling it or that I am applying too modern thinking to the plan for it to be correct. The layout is planned to have been built by the LBSCR and currently is sitting in 1936 having been absorbed by the Southern Railway and new paint applied but not much more - the uncertainty in Europe isn't overly concerning to the residents of Ifield Green who have been carrying on as they have always done so. The visible scene on the railway doesn't include the inner home signal so only from The end of Whitehall Siding & Point 5 onwards towards the right. Passenger Trains can be accepted into the Main Platform Road & The Dock Road which are both equipped to handle passengers - although the Dock Road is more for the handling of parcels and freight and perhaps to send the freight on its way leaving the platform road clear for an arriving passenger train. There is a calling on signal to allow a loco to run around its train and back down onto its coaches - and in theory a freight could be accepted directly into the loop line if needed but its not a passenger move. The advanced starter is on the other side of the bridge/short tunnel that forms the scenic break so you cannot see the points & routing from that position in my minds eye. The run around points are always switched as a pair so I've put them working off of the same lever #11 with no FPL and no passengers will travel over it in a facing direction But wondering if it would be better to separate them off with 11A having a FPL and 11B being put on its own lever - I've also spotted that I probably need a catch point from the Dock Road protecting the 'Main Line' which I'll add and that'll need a FPL - thankfully the LBSCR had the economical FPL on the same lever as the switch itself!! I'm not sure if the Distant signal would be working or fixed - I've depicted it as a fixed Distant but included a lever on the Frame for it. I think the lay of points 9 needs to be reversed with Whitehall Siding acting as the 'catch point' for the mainline. I am open to any/all criticism as my rudimentary understanding of railway signalling is most likely incorrect - it just looks like there are too many signals on there to my eyes. The layout would operate normally as 'One Engine in Steam' with the occasional Daily Freight and Passenger being in the station at the same time or a special there as well. The installation would be as I said Saxby & Farmer from the 1870/1880's and taken into SR ownership at Grouping - so mostly original i would imagine as this sleepy backwater wouldn't need/warrant changes. Please be kind & truthfull! Kind Regards, Gary
  15. Good afternoon everyone! I was reading D. L. Bradley's The Locomotive History of the South Eastern and Chatham Railway last night, and was struck by a reference to that company's E class taking over the Newcastle - Ashford train once on Kentish metals. It struck me that I'd never actually heard of this train before, Newcastle to the South typically being Bournemouth or Southampton, in the West, and I did have a look in my other Southern texts but didn't find anything further on the matter. (Text in square brackets my notes). Bradley (p. 44) states that ''The Ashford - Newcastle train was routed over this difficult line [the Redhill - Reading cross-country line for joining the GWR/GCR line from Reading to Cambridge via Oxford and Didcot, presumably, where the LNER would pick the train up?] and being a convenient means of travelling between the South and North East coasts it was always well patronised. As a result it regularly loaded to ten corridors while twelve or fourteen were not unknown. The U's [SR design] and U1's were expected to handle the standard formation unaided, but when this was exceeded one of the E's was usually detailed as pilot''. This suggests that the train was likely Southern coaching stock northbound, but whether there was a corresponding train in the southbound direction or if the train just alternated direction per day, I'm not sure. I anticipate there may be a 'partner' train which would be constituted from either Tourist stock or older corridor coaches, but I know very little about LNER carriages, so I wouldn't want to cast aspersions. Certainly, such inter-regional trains typically had two sets of coaches, one per direction, as far as I've observed. Does anyone have any further information on this service, such as what it might have been composed of and a start year? The year 1938 seems about right but if there's anything earlier in the 1910s and 20s that matches, that would be very much of interest. I'm already aware of the GCR/GC Section Sheffield to Deal train which appears to have used the Barnum carriages, including a catering vehicle, but unfortunately this is as far as I have got in my research on that matter. I know it used a Brake Composite (First and Third), possibly drawing 4328-C? I believe this train took the same route outlined above, with the train being collected by the Southern company at either Banbury or Reading, where GWR carriages were added [edit: Stephen has corrected me regarding Midland carriages. I've been known to get things wrong before and was going off my memory of reading about the up services from Dover and Deal where this train typically started either as a whole, or was reconstituted at Ashford with the Thanet portions]. This information, by the way, was gleaned from discussions with the LNER and GCR societies - my gratitude to the individual who handled my emails and was able to assist my enquiries. Many thanks in advance for any information you can offer! Alex
  16. To stop me climbing the walls in the current lockdown, I'm looking to bash out some card models for future use. I was particuarly drawen to some pictures of structures crafted from ABM Models - being a fellow SR nut! I can't seem to find a website or outlet for them - are they still in operation - does anyone know how to contact them? Thank you
  17. Morning - Another strange question from me. I recently picked a copy of Issue No.4 of The Southern Way in a charity shop, and some photos have especially caught my attention. Spread from Page 52 to Page 59, they depict scenes along the East Coastway lines in the late 1920s/Early 1930s. Although my period is now generally slightly later (1934/5) it would still be useful to identify some of the coach sets and even specific coaches in use. The photos reveal the following to me: Notes on Coach sets from The Southern Way No.4 Photograph selection. All are East Coastway. Photo 1 – 4w Luggage Van (SECR Grande Vitesse?) and SECR Trio-Set (Short Birdcages). SECR D Class Loco. Photo 2 – SECR 1915-21 Trio Set (No Birdcage Lookouts), LBSCR C2x Loco. Photo 3 – SECR Trio—Set (Short Birdcages). LBSCR B1 Loco Photo 4 – SECR 3-Car Set (Possibly composed of Two Birdcage Brakes and a 100-Seater?). SR L1 Loco. Photo 5 – Inter-Regional ('Birkenhead'?) Set. SECR Birdcage Brake + LSWR Ironclad(?) + SECR Birdcage Brake + LBSCR Billinton Full-Brake + 2x Unidentified NC Vehicles, probably LBSCR, Might be LSWR. LBSCR D3 Loco. Photo 6 – 2x SECR Trio-Sets (Short Birdcages). LBSCR E4 Loco. Photo 7 – Midland Clerestory Stock. LBSCR B4 Loco. Photo 8 – SECR Trio-Set and 4w Van. (Trio-Set = 60ft Birdcages, Van Unknown). LBSCR I3 Loco. Photo 9 – SECR Trio Set (60ft Birdcages). LBSCR B4 Loco. Photo 10 – LBSCR Billinton Arc-Roof Stock. LBSCR E4 Loco. Photo 11 – LBSCR Billinton Arc-Roof Motor Set (Short Luggage Van variety). LBSCR D1 Loco. Photo 12 – Same Inter-Regional Set as in Photo 5. LBSCR D3 Loco (Different one). Photo 13 – LBSCR 6w Van + SECR Trio-Set + 6w(?) Van with Birdcage. (Trio Set = 60ft Birdcages). LBSCR E5 Loco. Photo 14 – SECR Trio-Set No.519 (Or 518) + LSWR Milk Van (Trio-Set = Short Birdcages). LBSCR B1 Loco. More information on the possible pool of SECR Trio-Sets would be very welcome, in particular the 60ft ones as I have a Bachmann set in lined olive that could be renumbered if local allocations require it to be. Information on the vehicles used in the inter-regional set would be very useful too as that appeared to be a very interesting train with the same combination of vehicles photographed twice on, it would seem, two separate days. With my building a D3 currently, there is definite potential for me to model this train! In all but the last photo the carriage set numbers are invisible to me, but a useful list of period coach allocations would be good. Oh, and I have already looked at the SEmG spreadsheet, but it doesn't seem to be helping much.
  18. EASTOKE - A terminus station on the Hayling Island branch - if it never closed. So, the real history behind the line is this: The Hayling Island line was opened by the LBSCR for goods on 19 January 1865, and for passengers on 16 July 1867, running from Havant, across Langstone Harbour, to Hayling Island station. SR was handed over operations by the LBSCR at Grouping, and BR took over the line from the SR in 1948. In late 1962 BR decided that the wooden swing bridge over Langstone Harbour would need replacement sooner than later, and despite the line operating at a profit, took measures to close the line by the winter of 1963. The last train left the Hayling Island terminus for Havant on 2 November 1963. Now, what if the SR had extended the line to the southeast, towards Eastoke? What if holiday maker traffic increased to the beach and caravan park on the southeast corner of the island? What if, instead of closing the line, BR replaced the bridge, and upgraded the PW infrastructure? And [a very big "what if"], what if the MoD had built housing for the families of Royal Navy personnel on the east side of Hayling Island? Well, plenty of passengers would travel the line. There would be some goods traffic for the shops and households too, along with a bit of a parcels service as well. So let's say that BR kept the line south to the Hayling Island terminus, and also onwards to the fictional station at Eastoke. Thus we come to the period of 1968 - 1972. BR green is beginning to give way to BR blue, older 2-HAL's and 2-BIL's take the passengers, and Class 33's alongside Class 73's grumble along with the goods traffic. The line should give decent profit for another 5 or 10 years. The older steam infrastructure still lingers here and there, but third rail rules(bearing in mind of course, that the original line was run only by A1x and the like due to loading restrictions - Rule One applies here). Here's a quickly marked up screenshot of Google maps with my idea - original LBSCR line in orange, fictional BR(SR) line in red. (railmaponline.com has a much better view of the original line, if anyone cares to look). We shall imagine it's a sunny summer Friday, a few goods trains are being shunted together, the MLV arrives with some parcels, and the EMU's are starting to bring people out from the city to their homes and holiday caravans for the weekend and bank holiday. An electro diesel may be stabled overnight, ready to take an early morning train back to Havant and the main line. That's the picture I'm trying to create, with plenty of Rule One invoked, but enough prototypical basis to prevent it from seeming too far fetched. On to the practical side of things: I was planning on building a small 38"x16" BR(SR) diorama to showcase my collection of Southern Region stock, but then somehow the track plan morphed into a terminus station, and the baseboard grew! So, I am going to have a 48"x18" scenic board with a 30"x18" fiddle yard - dictated by the sizes of plywood and lumber in my garage. Track is Peco Code 75 for the scenic section, with electrofrog points, and code 100 for the Fiddle Yard, left over from my previous layout's FY. The fiddle yard style will be either traverser or turntable type. Track plan is pictured below, and is set in stone, so to speak, because those are the only points I have, and I'm not buying any more! Point operation will be by wire-in-tube with SPDT switches to change frog polarity. Control will be traditional analogue with a Gaugemaster panel mounted controller, partly to keep costs down, and partly because DC common return wiring is what I'm most familiar around and enjoy messing with, even in my day job. (Plan not to scale, but a good idea of what I want to achieve - the other end of the run round loop is off-stage). Of course, this is all purely an excuse to use up my remaining scenic materials, ballast, wire, already-built-kits, bridge, platform pieces, a random SR signal I had, etc., etc.. My parents are actually quite pleased I can get rid of stuff from both the garage and basement by building it into a layout. I've already sold off a fair bit of my London Midland Region stock, whilst keeping my favourites, to fund the extra bits and pieces needed(as well as another, non-railway project, but that's another story). There won't be much in the way of updates yet, at least until I get the baseboards built(this week, hopefully), but I'd already asked for some advice regarding signalling elsewhere on here, so thought a new thread would be a good way to get the axles rolling - no pun intended, of course. Here's a planning picture or two to get a feel for the idea. Obviously, I won't be using this baseboard - too small! Cheers, Will P. S. Does just "Eastoke" sound alright, or should it be something like Eastoke Road, or East Oak, or Hayling East or something?
  19. The longest build ever? 38 years after starting it im determined to finish this build. Its a really tricky kit I ran away from in 1977. The kit cost me £4.73 including wheels, the current kit is £68 albeit with etched brass sides. Thin laminated plasticard sides with white metal duckets stuck on had curved like bananas in storage. My first task was to sellotape the sides and under floor to my board and heat them with a hairdryer until they lay flat. I made a start with the bogies. I may have finally found a method for holding wheels in place whilst gluing the bogie together - sandwich bag ties! One twist round the axle, then around the boge side , held the wheels in place to allow me to offer up the second side Looking at the roxey kit I felt it was necessary to add some strenthg so I glued three thick plasticard partitions to the ceiling and left them to harden before adding the sides I then took on the task of cutting the vacuum formed roof to size and glueing it in place. This vehicle will have more filler in it than my Mk3 Cortina but I think I've done OK Underframe next time
  20. Hello all! I've asked a couple of people privately about these vehicles, but so far haven't found anything concrete, and I was wondering if anyone had any further information or diagrams they could divulge? According to an article in the Railway Modeller from way back when, a handful of these LSW vehicles were reconstituted into sets with ex-SECR Birdcage coaches and ran on Bexhill West and Hastings services, which is ideal for me, but, as I say, I have no real visual information on these. Many thanks! - Alex
  21. Hi All, Does anyone know where I can buy a brass chimney for a 7mm Q class loco I am building. I want the original chimney not the wide one. Best wishes, Paul
  22. So i have come to realise i have a growing obsession with parcels vehicles. I have also been stretching my kit building muscles recently so thought i would combine the two and build the ratio kit of tge SR bogie B. Here it is in it's unboxed state. I have also just poured a wheat beer so progress of any kind is not guaranteed this evening. Happy modelling for now.
  23. I'm looking for any information or pictures of the Milford goods yard, situated on the east side of Salisbury. The goods yard was originally the LSWR terminus station on their line from Eastleigh, opened in 1847, and turned into a goods-only yard with the opening of the current station in 1859. Except for a couple of photos, OS maps and a plan from the Network Rail archives, I'm struggling to find much more information. I've read somewhere that the traffic was mainly coal coming in and livestock going out, but any more detail would be very useful. As the current station used to have a small goods yard, how was the traffic divided? Were certain goods sent only to the Fisherton side or was this only used by GWR traffic from Westbury? I can take a pretty good guess at which locomotives were used during its use by looking at the depot allocations, but have no hard evidence that a particular loco was the on duty shunter (I presume G6's at first, falling later to class 2 tanks and then 08's and 12's by the time of its demise). Any particular book recommendations would also be a great help. Thanks! Xander
  24. Morning all! When planning out signalling for a layout, I have a tendency to draw it out like this: I find it quite enjoyable drawing these up. Now, these ones are for a club layout (which has yet to be signalled) and I've yet to draw up a proper one for my own layout. Basically my two questions are: Have I made any serious errors with the drawing? As in, are there any conventions for such diagrams that I have missed or simply misinterpreted? Have I made any serious technical errors? Be it incorrect use of Track Circuits, misplacement of Distant Signals, or anything to similar effect. As will probably be obvious, the two boxes shown would be controlling opposite ends of the same station. The track has already been laid on this layout, so that cannot be changed.
  25. Short note - new toys in the mail. I managed to catch the Rails of Sheffield flash-sale on the Heljan L&B Manning-Wardle 'Taw' in Southern lined green. I must say, beautiful model, but the relevant thread elsewhere gives me pause to running it. Shame, cost me enough. On the same order, I grabbed a couple of L&B bogie opens in Southern colors & markings. From the depths of eBay, I won this monstrosity; I regret my decision. Runs like crap. I imagine it is too have tires on the wheels, which are absent. Very rough runner. Paint is crap, and some 5-year-old seems to have slathered that yellow paint on in a go. I did get a coach and a dummy power car as well. Honestly, I plan to corrupt this into a Collett-ized version, when funds allow for the other donors.
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