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  1. I suppose it is time to bite the bullet and (in)formally announce the Grand Plan that I am slowly working toward. This being the Grand Plan that as yet I have neither time nor space nor money for, but which will (I am determined) will one day be an actuality rather than an idea. I would like, therefore, if I may, to introduce you to Rufford Red Lion Square. Now how do I start to describe the elaborate thinking and influences and suchlike that have coalesced into such a layout name? At the beginning, I suppose. ~~~ Some of you may have been kind enough these last few years to have read my blog describing my efforts to create a collection of locomotive and rolling stock models of various Great Central prototypes, with the odd Metropolitan machine thrown in. When I began that blog, about four years ago, my intention was to build a model of something Marylebone-esque, a middle-sized London terminus station with LNER and Metropolitan joint working. Well, what with having decided on an ex-GCR location I needed ex-GCR locos and stock, and the obvious source of information on same being books about the GCR I set about building up a little reference library. What of course happened then was that books and photographs started piling up and I found 'interesting' things that could be modelled, or rather that I have or had then yet to see be modelled. The first change was from an early 1930s period to a mid 1920s one, on the basis of photographs of engines with 'L&NER' on the tender and tank sides and the numbers below. As I was rebuilding and repainting stock to suit that jump back in period, another photograph turned up. Dated 1926 and yet showing an express passenger loco still in Great Central colours. "That's interesting", thinks I, and so I built a model of it. That's the point that the bug bit hard and repeatedly and my half-hearted 'one day I'll build something pre-Grouping' became more 'why not do it now?' So no sooner had some of my stock been put back to mid-1920s condition, it had to be backdated yet again. But when, exactly, would I like to model? ~~~ I had a look at the models I had already built, bought or had to hand. There were examples of the three Bachmann GCR types- the J11 (introduced 1902), the ROD (introduced 1913) and the Improved Director (introduced 1920). I had a couple of N5 tanks (introduced 1891), a Jersey Lily (1906), an Immingham (1907), a Fish Engine (1904) and a pair of Directors (1913), and an L1 tank (1915). For rolling stock I had a set of Ratio suburban carriages, which to my eye are close enough to pass for arc roof Ashbury stock introduced around 1903, some Hornby clerestories, which can be made to look GC-esque as they are but for which I had grander plans, some Graham Farish OO suburban carriages (very close in appearance to later Robinson suburban stock), mainline carriages from the same stable (loosely based off of Maunsell stock, but again rather close to post-1910 Robinson mainline stock) and some Mainline/ Dapol/ Bachmann Mk.1 LMS stock (which looks vaguely Robinson-ish once the panelling has been sanded off and a matchboarded effect drawn or scratched on). Unless it was my desire to once more go back and start over again, the only period I could reasonably model with what I had to hand was from about 1920 to 1923, those awkward years between the privatations of the Great War and the Grouping. Hardly the pre-grouping scene in all its glory- but it has come to appeal to me on the 'I've not seen it modelled' front. So that is what I have been working toward. Besides, nice as it would have been to model the Great Central Railway in true Edwardian splendour, it has been done before- and I feel done better than I could hope to achieve. No sooner had the date been set to my satisfaction than I had a bout of wanderlust. ~~~ My blog is entitled 'the GC and Met in OO' and that pretty plainly lays out my geographical area of interest. At least, it did, when I began the blog. I have, it is true, built a few Metropolitan engines- attempted an E class 0-4-4 and made a rather nice job of a Radleys MetroVick Bo-Bo- but as my library of GC books grew it opened my eyes to other areas served by the Company. Coming north out of London and following the 1897 mainline there are (were) a number of appealing stations that I might have chosen- but I didn't want a wayside through station that would be pretty to look at with little operational interest. It might form a nice focal point on a big roundy-roundy layout, but I've not the room for one of those and if I wanted to just watch the trains go by- well, I could achieve that with my old Hornby 'Flying Scotsman' and the dining room table. So they were considered and rejected. There have been layout suggestions in magazines for the larger London Extension stations, like Leicester (I think that was even what the plan was called!) but again those fell in combat against considerations of space. Also of course Leicester Central (or part of it) is the subject of a large club layout- and really something like that needs to be a club exercise to be done well- and so that too was considered and rejected. Then there was the Woodhead route, which I considered, but again which fell in combat against considerations of space and operational interest, and scenery. I don't have the space to model the windswept Pennines. If I model the Pennines, I'm modelling two lines of track along which run a panoply of passenger and freight trains- but nothing what I would call interesting ever happens. Also, if I model the Pennines- if I tell you I trained as an architect you might begin to see why I might prefer to model a town or city.... Fundamentally I wanted to model somewhere that might have been served by the GC, but wasn't. Something 'like' Denny's Buckingham Branch, but with a clear and unmistakeable identity of its own, geographically and chronologically set clean away from anyone or anywhere else... somewhere where I could create something unique. It was a poser of a problem, and it had me stumped. ~~~ Two things then happened. I was toying around with trying to draw a trackplan, which I doodle occasionally just to pass the time, and I found the long pair of threads about Cyril Freezer's 'Minories' plan. Somebody happened to mention how one end of Sheffield Victoria could be warped into something Minories-esque with greater operating potential. Cogs began to whir. Then I bought two Iain Rice books- Mainlines in Modest Spaces and Designs for Urban Layouts- with his take on parts of Norman Eagle's "Sherwood Section"- and things just clicked. A fictional Midland mainline running north from Nottingham- straight through the territory of the erstwhile Manchester, Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway. How would the progenitors of the GCR have responded to such a line?
  2. An OP for this topic... I will post some actual content later on! All the best, EDIT, 16/12/18: Thread title changed to reflect lack of future CAD activity. EDIT, 27/12/18: Thread title changed to reflect the lack of pre-grouping content! EDIT, 04/08/19: Thread title changed to reflect the further lack of pre-grouping content!!! EDIT, 29/08/20: Thread title changed again to reflect a potential new revival of pre-grouping content.
  3. Hello there all! I've decided to make my first topic on here since i feel like it'll be a fun project After searching for a year or so, i managed to locate some diagrams for the LNER J10s, one of my favorite locomotives, and noticed how similar the wheelbase and wheel size are to the affordable Hornby J15. I then decided that, since i had a J15 and wasn't going to use it when modelling the Great Central region, that i was going to use it to model the J10. The plan is to reuse the loco chassis and take the electronics from the tender chassis and place them onto 3D printed models, although i'm going to have to learn quite a bit to model them via Blender since Tinkercad doesn't allow the use of images and therefore no diagrams. In the meantime, here's a photo of the loco chassis posing in front of an ROD tender... (was going to use it originally but couldn't bear to butcher my only O4!)
  4. Kit Bashing Ratio Signals. Welcome to this small blog entry. Whilst I have been working on the track-work on the layout, and carrying on ballasting, I thought I'd take the time to show off some of the work Kirsty, my other half, has done to adapt our packs of Ratio LNER & Lattice Signals. Loughborough Down Main Outer Home. Loughboroughs Down Main Outer Home signal, was one of the signals we tasked our selves with trying to make our selves. We used the LNER Pack of Ratio Signals to get the basic structure, with the addition of the fixed distant arm below the main arm. This will become in use when the GCR is able to proceed through to Rushcliffe Halt & Rudidngton Fields on the Preserved GCR(N). What we have noticed, certainly by making this particular ratio kit, is that a lot of filing and adjustment is required. In terms of building them they are pretty simple, and the end product is worth it. Painting is pretty simple, You can see some of the paints we have used in the images below. We buy these from games workshop and hand paint the signals ourselves. The Pictures below show the model in its uncompleted condition prior to adding the hand rails around the top of the planking. The image above is seen taken approaching Loughborough Central Station, on the Down Main. The Signal in the distance that can be seen is Loughborough's Inner Home Lattice Gantry Signal. This can be seen further down this post. Loughboroughs Down Main Inner Home. This signal is one of the Great Centrals More impressive pieces. Containing three main arms, and one subsidiary calling on arm. From left to Right.. Left Hand Main Arm - Access to Loughboroughs Down Loop Left Hand Subsidiary Calling on Arm. - Access to Loughboroughs Down Loop when occupied. Centre Main Arm - Access to Loughborough Platform 2. Right Hand Main Arm - Access to Loughborough Platform 1. The Construction. The Construction of Loughboroughs Down Main Inner Home was a lot more complex than the outer home. Not only have we relied on ratio's Lattice post signal kit, But we have had to make the gantry posts from Brass Rod, and add the structural brass holding wires, extend the gantry in length, create a new planked top to the correct length, add some new weight fixings and remake some signal post tops the best we can. The Track circuit diamond was also added to the centre post on top of the gantry. This was quite a good signal to start painting with plenty of colour and seeing it come to life. Again, using a mixture of Citadel and Games Workshop Paints, these applied very well and have left a great appearance. I used MIG Clay Brown to paint the wooden planking for the top of the Gantry, and weathered it down with some dust and black washes. The signal can be seen nearing the end of its construction in place along side Beeches Road Bridge, 334, which has been a kit bash of L-Cuts Brick Over Bridge, I will do a follow up Blog entry on how we have adjusted these and made them look better. Loughboroughs Up Main Section Signal. Loughboroughs Up Main Section Signal was a very easy build and not a lot of adjustment was required to Ratios kit. Again, Kirsty has done a good job in getting this one finished in rather quick time. Thanks for reading! All the best Michael Sutton & Kirsty Beardmore.
  5. Ballasting, a task which is feared of by many railway modellers across the globe. Welcome to this new blog entry, where I hope to show you a quick and effective method of creating ballasted Code 75 Wooden sleeper track which looks professional and realistic. The Materials you will need for my method is as follows. Deluxe Materials - Ballast Bond. (Approximately £6.00 Per 100ml.) Fine Spray Bottle - Containing Luke Warm Water with two drops of Fairy Liquid. Greenscenes Ballast - Codes GS408 (Fine) & GS409 (Semi Coarse) Large Soft Paint Brush Tea Spoon Ballast Spreader. Method. Before Starting, ensure your work area is clear of dust, debris and other items you do not want getting in your ballast, or wetting with the spray application bottle later on in the process. Mixing the Ballast. We Mix up some ballast using Greenscenes fine and semi coarse ballast, The ballast is Product codes GS408 & GS409 mixed together. Remembering that Ballast is never all the same size. You'll Probably see that the ballast shade we have chosen is quite a light shade. This will be weathered and dulled down in due course at a later stage. Applying the Ballast. Ballast Spreaders are available from many manufacturers and suppliers around the globe, such as Proses and Greenscenes. We picked this one up from a local supplier at a model railway show a few years ago, they all function the same. This is a simple, yet effective way of ballasting large areas quickly and hassle free. Upon Loading the Ballast Spreader, drag it along the rails. It will deposit any ballast in open areas along the 4ft and Cess at the side of the rails. Be careful not to drag the ballast spreader along to quickly, doing so will not allow the ballast to go into all of the areas it is required. I advise working in small sections at a time when doing Ballasting in this way, theres nothing worse than laying out all of your ballast and then realising you do not have enough Glue half way through! This can lead to all manor of problems, the main one being dust and debris falling into it! Remove the Ballast spreader from the rails when the hopper is empty, and you have ballasted all the areas required. Once you've done this, Using a soft large brush, remove the ballast from the top of the sleepers and the sleeper sides, this will give a more realistic appearance. Forming the Ballast Shoulder and Neatening up. Once you've removed all the ballast from the sleeper tops and sides, I use the brush to just push the ballast down between the sides of the rails so there is no gaps visable of the cork underneath. You can also use the brush to pat down the ballast shoulder softly. I am aware that most modern day ballast shoulders are raised above the rails, but at the GCR, this is a different story. Tap the Rail head with a tea spoon too when you are happy, this will allow all of the ballast to sit comfortably inside the rails and sleepers, and also remove any remaining ballast off the sleepers. This is a small, yet effective way of removing the ballast from areas it is not required. Ensure your layout is off before you do this, as you don't want to short the power to your railway out! Applying the Adhesive. When we are ready to apply the glue to hold everything together, there is more to it than just adding the adhesive. We start by giving the area we wish to glue a good spray using a fine mist spray bottle, Nothing Pricey or out of the ordinary, many of you will have something similar lying around at home. In this mixture, we fill it with Luke Warm water and two drops of fairy Liquid just to break the surface tension of the ballast when the glue is applied, this also allows the glue to flow further. When approaching Point-work, the same method can be applied, although be very careful of the switch blades and mechanism. When the mixture is fully soaked, it is time to apply the adhesive. The Simplest way we have found, although more expensive is using Deluxe Materials Ballast Bond. This retails around the £6.00 area per bottle, depending on the supplier. If you are working on very large layouts you may be better sticking with normal PVA & Water, I'm pretty sure there is no difference, although this is my preferred method due to the ease of use. Each bottle is supplied with a fine applicator nossle,which the adhesive can come out of in droplets, This soaks into the ballast really well, and the dry time for this product is between 6 & 8 Hours in a well heated environment. Its important not to touch the ballast whilst it is drying. This can dislodge the ballast, and it is very hard to correct it once it has been touched. It will be a lot easier to rectify and issues once the glue has dried. The Finished Product. Once complete, This is how it will look. You are left with a nice matt finish, no shines from the sleepers and everything is held into place very well. Eventually the rails and sleepers will be weathered with my airbrush. I will do a tutorial on how I go about that in another blog. Here are some images of the finished product. I'd highly recommend this method for beginners its pretty fail safe! Helpful links to some of the products I've used can be seen below. Ballast Used - http://www.green-scenes.co.uk/store?productlist-sort=created-desc&productlist-categories=ballast&productlist-itemcount=20&productlist-search= Ballast Spreader (Example) - https://railsofsheffield.com/products/33597/proses-pbs-ho-02-oo-gauge-ballast-spreader-car-w-shut-off-and-height-adjustment?gclid=CjwKCAjw2uf2BRBpEiwA31VZj_Tc8IOAWaiuycYyTd8lTqId7yqmgOlP8csNY7N0IdWAA7z0FLTVFxoCT6YQAvD_BwE Deluxe Materials Ballast Bond 100ml - https://www.track-shack.com/oo-gauge-railways/adhesives-1/deluxe-materials-ad-75-ballast-bond-liquid-adhesive-100ml-gm_dlad_75-2 Thanks for reading, Hopefully this will help many people get used to ballasting in a different way. All the best Michael Sutton & Kirsty Beardmore.
  6. Great Central Railway, Loughborough South Junction. 4mm 00 Gauge 16ft x 7ft Welcome! Welcome to all of you viewing my brand new layout blog. This layout is 16ft x 7ft and based on the Great Central Railway at Loughborough, specifically between Bridges 333 & 335. The layout was started in December 2019, and here in this blog, I intend to show you our previous steps and our future progress on the layout, Demonstrations, Tutorials and plenty more. Take a look down below to see some history and what to expect. History on the Location The Great Central Railway is the UK's only double track mainline preserved railway. The line runs from Loughborough Central to Leicester North travelling for approximately 8 miles. Bridge 333 sees the exit of Loughborough Central's platforms as the railway heads towards Quorn passing Loughborough's Up Section Signal, past Charnwood Water and under the public footpath bridge. The layout is set between these two bridges. In terms of locos and rolling stock, GCR hosts a variety of different examples which allows the modeller to use near enough any ready to run rolling stock within reason. Why I Chose to model the Great Central Railway, Specifically, Loughborough's South Junction, So... why am I modelling the Great Central Railway? And specifically this location? Knowledge of the Location - The main reason I chose to model this area is because not only am I a Fireman and Second-man, I also work for the Railway on their Operations Department. This allows me to access locations which are out of bounds to the public in a safe and sensible manor. Good route knowledge is also essential which it comes to modelling a set location. Thankfully this means online research is kept to a minimum! Signalling - Featuring eight signals across the stretch of Loughboroughs station limits, these will all be modelled using Ratio semaphore signals and we are currently investigating getting some signals professionally made for the layout. Class 50's to Jinties! - Modelling a preserved railway does have some benefits, with the Great Central hosting such a large collection of Steam, Diesel and multiple units, as well as a huge amount of wagons and coaches. No need for modellers license here, as it is not uncommon to see a Class 50 hauling a rake of Windcutters or a 3F hauling a lunchtime dining train as well as many more colourful yet accurate combinations of rolling stock together. Buildings and Structures - These will be made primarily from scratch utilising laser-cut brickwork from L-cut Creative, 2mm Grey-board, and a selection of details and Plasticard products made by other manufacturers such as Evergreens and Wills Kits. Scenery - Areas such as embankments and other raised terrain will be made using foam and Sculpt-a-mold. We have just started creating these as well as other scenic assets. We will be updating the blog regularly as we make progress on the scenery. Track work - We have used Peco Code 75 track work and Electrofrog points. It is ballasted using Green-scenes GS408 and GS409. The point-work is powered via a Gaugemaster transformer and uses Peco's new Twist-lock Point Motors, of which I highly recommend. Power and Control - The layout is powered using Roco's Z21 system and MultiMaus handsets. It is DCC Operated. Weathering - You will also see some examples of weathering and how to achieve realistic effects on buildings, rolling stock and more! Summary So, as you can see there are many plus points to modelling this location, and railway, and that will hopefully be shown over the next months of modelling as the Layout Progresses. Thankfully, my other half Kirsty has a lot of modelling expertise as well as myself, as not only has she built layouts in the past, she also has a very large collection of 00 gauge Bachmann and Hornby Models Not forgetting other manufacturers of course!! As there is two of us working on the layout, Hopefully progress will be quicker than usual, but still remain to the same high Standard. All the best & Thankyou for reading. I Hope you keep an eye on this project for future updates! Michael Sutton & Kirsty Beardmore.
  7. Good afternoon everyone! I was reading D. L. Bradley's The Locomotive History of the South Eastern and Chatham Railway last night, and was struck by a reference to that company's E class taking over the Newcastle - Ashford train once on Kentish metals. It struck me that I'd never actually heard of this train before, Newcastle to the South typically being Bournemouth or Southampton, in the West, and I did have a look in my other Southern texts but didn't find anything further on the matter. (Text in square brackets my notes). Bradley (p. 44) states that ''The Ashford - Newcastle train was routed over this difficult line [the Redhill - Reading cross-country line for joining the GWR/GCR line from Reading to Cambridge via Oxford and Didcot, presumably, where the LNER would pick the train up?] and being a convenient means of travelling between the South and North East coasts it was always well patronised. As a result it regularly loaded to ten corridors while twelve or fourteen were not unknown. The U's [SR design] and U1's were expected to handle the standard formation unaided, but when this was exceeded one of the E's was usually detailed as pilot''. This suggests that the train was likely Southern coaching stock northbound, but whether there was a corresponding train in the southbound direction or if the train just alternated direction per day, I'm not sure. I anticipate there may be a 'partner' train which would be constituted from either Tourist stock or older corridor coaches, but I know very little about LNER carriages, so I wouldn't want to cast aspersions. Certainly, such inter-regional trains typically had two sets of coaches, one per direction, as far as I've observed. Does anyone have any further information on this service, such as what it might have been composed of and a start year? The year 1938 seems about right but if there's anything earlier in the 1910s and 20s that matches, that would be very much of interest. I'm already aware of the GCR/GC Section Sheffield to Deal train which appears to have used the Barnum carriages, including a catering vehicle, but unfortunately this is as far as I have got in my research on that matter. I know it used a Brake Composite (First and Third), possibly drawing 4328-C? I believe this train took the same route outlined above, with the train being collected by the Southern company at either Banbury or Reading, where GWR carriages were added [edit: Stephen has corrected me regarding Midland carriages. I've been known to get things wrong before and was going off my memory of reading about the up services from Dover and Deal where this train typically started either as a whole, or was reconstituted at Ashford with the Thanet portions]. This information, by the way, was gleaned from discussions with the LNER and GCR societies - my gratitude to the individual who handled my emails and was able to assist my enquiries. Many thanks in advance for any information you can offer! Alex
  8. Can anyone help me by identifying the coach/NPCCS vehicle at the front of this Liverpool-Hull train c.1950? The carriage working book for the era shows a BZ in this train. Many thanks Simon
  9. As you guessed from the title of this post, I have been working on another Pre-Grouping Steam Locomotive - the Robinson O4 in its GCR days as the 8K Class! Now, I now there already exists a model in its Great Central livery already, but I am enjoying the challenge. What better choice of engine from said-company of said-era to accomapny another potential purchase, the Bachmann D11 in GCR days as well as GCR coaching stock! I'll be planning on a GCR brake van to go with the freight rolling stock of the day sometime in the future to go with my collection of Pre-Grouping Trains (I know I only focus on stuff from 1890 to 1910, but I have been making some exceptions and am adding in more Pre-Grouping stock up to 1920 so maybe I could change my username to LNWR18901920 or something like that). Expect pictures soon!
  10. My primary interest in the UK has always been pre-grouping. Until recently, the difficulty of modeling this era has put me off, but now I'm seeing how easily available the kits are, and how good they look, I thought I'd give it a try. I'm wondering, therefore, if there would be a prototypical location to base my four pre-grouping interests in Manchester. I don't want to build an exact model of a prototype, merely to add an essence of realism to proceedings. I know the GCR operated into Central, I believe the MR operated into London Road, as did the LNWR, and the LNWR and LYR operated into Victoria, and later Exchange. There's photographic evidence of NER teak stock through Victoria, too, behind Lanky locos. If I have to sacrifice just one of the above, it'd be the MR; I know the first three are far more 'Manchester' than the last one. I just want to know if there'd be anywhere they'd share metals. Maybe around Castlefield?
  11. Does anyone know what the main types of engines were used on the Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway? I was wondering if any of Robinson's 4-6-0 or 4-4-0 types would have worked there at some point.
  12. Where the GCR, GNR, MR, and L&B the only companies to import US built locomotives when the British builders where backlogged?
  13. Does anyone have a drawing or the main measurements of the little gcr tank locos 12am they were 2-4-0 tanks which just made it into lner stock. A scale drawing would be best but if none exist some major dimensions would help so i could scale the rest from a photo. Any help much appreciated Thanks Richard
  14. Just seen this on the GCR's Facebook page, https://www.facebook.com/pages/Great-Central-Railway/283124458415924 Certainly looked good on the windcutters etc at the weekend, Regards, Wild Boar Fell
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