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  1. So , the plan is to build a 6 x 2 layout of an imaginary rolling mill built to the rear of the Scunthorpe site sometime in the 70s onward period. Which would also feature some preserved tours allowing to use steam engines . The layout will depict a rolling mill which people will be able to see into where semi finished steel will arrive and rolled steel will depart. The layout will also feature narrow gauge which will transport mill equipment to the nearby workshops. As work progresses I will add more but for now here are just 4 pictures of some of my locos which will be running the layout. In total i have 7 janus locomotives that will be used. With one 02 and one Yorkshire 0-4-0DH. Steam engines will range from mostly those avalaibe as rtr. I hope I can make the mill itself something brilliant after working inside a mill for nearly 10 years .
  2. Please see my Pinterest board of images inspiring my planned 7mm diorama of the MDHB, Liverpool Overhead Railway and Riverside Branch lines at East Princes Half Tide Dock, Liverpool just before the Overhead Railway closed in 1956. Planning is in the early stages. Research is the easy bit! Currently I am seeking any plans of the MDHB engine shed shown in the photo. https://uk.pinterest.com/stephenwolstenh/inspiration-for-atlantic-dock-7mm-scale-diorama-of/
  3. Narrow Planet's multimedia approach to kits has been well proven in 009, but we're a little surprised the idea doesn't really seem to have been taken on by many others. So with the hope of new markets out there to conquer, our designer James has been working on a Standard Gauge Narrow Planet kit. Standard Planet? We might go for Planet Industrials. Anyway... This is the prototype of a kit for a F.C. Hibberd "Planet" in 4mm:ft scale, an 18 ton SCW type to be more precise. It will use the familiar Spud motor bogie and is comprised of a 3D printed bodyshell core and etched overlay detail. Price and release TBA, and there are still some details to resolve, but it will be on display at the Warley MRC show at the NEC this weekend. Come and say hello at stand A16! (we'll also have some new narrow gauge stuff, stay tuned!) https://shop.narrowplanet.co.uk/
  4. As progress on my Cwmhir layout is rather slow and I need to set up things in the shed to continue I fancied a micro to build on holiday, use indoors and maybe even exhibit locally. I rather like the scalescenes kits and their boxfile layout gave me the idea to do a 5+3+3 shunting puzzle using two boxfiles and a fiddle stick. The plan: is to Scalescenes Boxfile layout as the end of the sidings and put the points in another boxfile with more scalescenes buildings around them, fiddle stick for headshunt. This will be a S.Wales industrial complex set in 1929 - 32 (as Cwmhir is). Locos: GWR 57xx, 1854, 850 O-6-0 Panniers (I Also have a kit built 1361 but don't think it runs reliably enough). Stock: Mixture of Kit built goods vans and opens from the big four. Wheel standards / gauge: All with Gibson type wheels set to oo-fs standards (Cwmhir has C&L track). I'm not going to build new stock for this so this is fixed. Issues: 1)What track to use? I have some peco code 100 points and track, It'll be buried so doesn't matter about the appearance BUT will have to test whether stock will run on it. Can I just shim out the flangeways? Alternatively I'll have to scratchbuild the track but I'm not sure I have enough finescale rail. 2) Concrete hardstanding. The scalescenes kit has some nicely detailed concrete hardstanding but is this appropriate for the 1929-32 period? If not what would be more likely? 3) Orientation of buildings. For some of the buildings I could really do with a mirror image of the scalescenes kits. Is there an easy way to do this? 4) Do I add a brake van into the mix (Arrive with van next to loco propelling, van has to end up at the tail of leaving train)? I've got some nice small ex-TVR/RR vans that would help to add a sense of place. Kits bought and downloaded: Boxfile layout, Low relief warehouse, Industrial Water tower, Industrial warehouse (non-rectangular). Card on it's way, time to play with the track and finalise the planning. Comments welcome.
  5. Last updated: 11th June A thread to collate information rather than provide any I'm afraid, but I hope for it to turn into a useful resource in time. The aim is to arrive at a complete layout design, with answers all possible questions. There's much to learn, but I enjoy the research and 'real' modelling is out of the question for the forseeabe future so this period is to be viewed as a gift rather than hindrance. I will endeavour to edit this post with tidbits, check them out, and then write a dedicated post once there's a consensus for each particular topic. So please forgive the awful mess for now, things can only get better Introduction and Inspiration: The reason we're looking at the London Docks at all is to satisfy a desire to meld my developing interest in Victorian industrial locomotives with a pre-existing interest in commercial sail of the same period. I've long admired the Highlevel Back Hawthorn and Neilson, and recently came across models of Cutty Sark in 1:75 and 1:78. Where else could I reasonably place them together?! The map, from NLS, shows a tasty little portion of West India Docks, London. South Quay of the Import Dock at the top left, North Quay of South Dock at the lower left. The sidings come off the goods line that ran from Harrow Lane Sidings down to Millwall. The other line, with the loop around South Dock Station, is the Millwall Extension Railway. It ran from Millwall Jnc Station down to a terminal on the river, optimistically named North Greenwich. South Dock Station was the only passing loop on the line. With no fixed criteria, simply aiming to find an area on which to base an 'inspired by' shunting layout, I've settled on the above. East India Export Dock was a strong contender - a natural fit for a 'U' layout. However, the proposed section of West India edges it for me in terms of (operational) bang for (acerage) buck. The Layout - latest revision here, including digital mock-up in Trainz Below is the layout as it stands on Day 1. The trackplan has survived a couple of evenings playing trains on SCARM*, so I'm opening up to the public. This doesn't in any way make it finished, and developmental feedback will be essential *Max. roster: 1 x loco, 10 x wagons. Stock horrifically out of place but much better than nothing. It looks like a roundy, but would be operated as three semi-independant end-to-end systems, yard-scenic-yard. The yard represents both Millwall Junction Station/Harrow Lane exchange sidings and North Greenwich Station/Millwall Dock and industries. The general idea is the siding off the goods line provides access to Docks (should be 'Berths' I suppose) A-D (Local, Regional, Home Trade; transhipment) and E-G ('Foreign') independantly. Movements from the Foreign to Warehouse, Shed or the Domestic quays would be shunted via the Primary Scene. The intentionally restricted sightlines aim to focus attention on this area, while allowing scope for movements to be seen in The Wider World, giving the impression (hopefully!) of being within an extended dock network. The prime example would be looking past the Dock B crane: through the gap between the warehouse and shed you might see wagons roll in front of the clipper's bow (or stern, who knows yet!), look further across and there's the dock full of lighters, beyond which is the just-visible entrance to a railway goods depot. The [slightly outdated - ed] diagram below should help make sense of the traffic movements: Designed for a 12' x 8' shed (-ish ), the remaining 4' beyond the fiddle yard is envisioned as a utility/modelling space and gives essential access to the bottom half of the layout. The shed would therefore need doors at either end. With a storage yard of loops rather than sidings it should be possible to maintain coherent flows of empty/loaded wagons as required, and light loco movements. Goods services might include longer trains (c.12 wagons) viewed going through the scene between Harrow Lane Sidings and Millwall Docks, but the main activity would be the shunting of 1-3 wagons to/from the represented docks as the 'shipping' ( @CameronL's Random Freight Generator) demands. Passenger service is a shuttle. In reality from Millwall Jnc to North Greenwich and back, but on the model from The Other Station to...The Other Station, passing through South Dock Station in alternating directions, having run around at each destination. The loops at the top are largely to maintain the integrity of passenger and freight circuits whilst cassettes are being changed or D Dock/A Shed siding is being shunted, and are not intended to be an operational focus. Updated post here. The layout is anticipated to require DCC control and a fair level of automation in order to manage quite intensive traffic movements with low operator stress: the operator fills the (primary) role of the driver of a dock shunter. Other traffic will be visibile, and will have to be allowed for re line occupancy etc, but shouldn't interfere with the job at hand. That's the idea anyway... The Docks London's enormous enclosed dock network began, in a meaningful sense, with the opening of West India Docks in 1802. By 1880 all the docks but Tillbury (1886) were up and running, the other of direct relevance here being Millwall Dock (1868). West India Import, North Quay, c.1870 The date of 1880 suggests itself with some coherence: As the year of officially sanctioned through-running on the MER, it 'allows' full steam passenger workings (and so excuses steam motive power on the docks themselves) without flexing my (self-imposed, arbiterary and internally inconsistent...but working on it...) rules of realism too far. It also falls comfortably within the aimed-for timeframe when commercial shipping under sail was still the rule rather than the exception, on which I'm rather keen. It does no harm that this period represents the first sweet spot (to my mind) of form and function in steam locomotive design, both elegant and effective. How much of this will be apparent on the proposed layout is up in the air (probably not that much, unless one cares only for 0-4-0STs), but I find it worth keeping in mind Cheers and gone! Schooner ps. Please do feel free to skip the below. When there's enough information there will be a new post for each section. The remainder of this post is just the gathering of forces Let the carnage begin: Area overview: With thanks to @Northroader and @Compound2632 50 years too late, but useful nevertheless https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW020965 https://britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW024256 https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW005993 https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW006142 And what may well turn out to be the single most important resource for this thread: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vols43-4 DCC and electrics http://www.railmagic.com/ https://train-o-matic.com/ https://www.dccconcepts.com/ Dock traffic Millwall - grain, flour, wine, liquor, fruit and vegetables, rail served engineering works, graving dock, nail works, whatever this is - telegraph cable works? - rope and wire walk. West India Export - rum, molasses and sugar, jute, coir, wine, spirits, shell , horn, cork, indigo, spices, baggage, coffee, hardwoods, grain, meat (frozen, starting with beef from America in 1874 and by 1882 lamb from New Zealand and Australia), fruit and vegetables also became regular commodities. West India South - timber, mainly hardwoods. (Softwoods from the Baltic trades were largely handled by Surrey Commercial Dock, South of the river...although often then lightered across the river to Millwall for railway connection it seems). The Rules 1 ...and 2. The Reality. Wagon loads "Dock traffic on Whitechapel High Street 1899" Specific inspiration for various areas. I'm sure you can spot them, but a future post will clarify and expand: Above: London West Dock, North Quay, 1896. Steam may have overtaken sail by some margin in terms of tonnage landed, but apparently not in numbers of vessels... Compare and contrast. Earlier? Is that a bell on top of the post, lower left? Shorter shadows than in the 1896 photo, but where are all the people? What are the marks on the RHS casks about? 1896, showing excllent details from outside No.2 Warehouse, North Quay, London West Dock. Barrels of molasses, West India Docks 1926-27 Railway Millwall Dock Co. motive power: In short, no joy so far. In fact, the greatest joy by a margin has been discovering @Ruston's utterly brilliant Manning Wardle Class H scratchbuild, a real treat Otherwise, odds and sods found so far include: 1911 Millwall Docks Railway Steam Locomotive No. 7 "The locomotive depicted is possibly Manning Wardle 1106 of 1888, a 14in class 'P' originally with the Millwall Dock Company in London." - Thoughts? Manning Wardle produced locomotives (plural?) for the Millwall Dock Co, who had "special requirements" - does this mean 3'6" wheels too I wonder? "Four-coupled locomotives were required on the West India and Millwall Docks lines dues to tight radius curves". It's suggested here (after "New Locomotives for the Port of London Authority", Locomotive Magazine, Vol XVII (15 August 1911), p. 178-179) and here that the PLA (which formed in 1909) ordered its first locomotives, 0-6-0T No's 37-9, in 1911 from Barclay's. Surpassing their design requirements of hauling 900 tons at 15mph, they were also quite the lookers apparently: "LM also commented on the "very smart appearance." The locomotives were painted brick red with black bands and yellow linings. Coupling rods were "bright" (polished, presumably), number plates were brass, and the buffer beams sported vermilion." Irrelevant really, but it does lend credence to No.7, in the postcard linked above, being an original Millwall Dock Co. Manning Wardle ...but from what date? Perhaps the answer is in here. Anyway, still nothing on what might have worked the dock lines before 1888, so below is a little selection from late-Victorian 0-4-0T builders for flavour (images embedded from their advertisments c.1870-80s in Grace's Guide), and some potential 4mm options for discussion: Fox, Walker and Co at Grace's Guide Potentially suitable models: RT Model's Manning Wardle "Old Class I" An 0-6-0T or two might be nice, and the Class I fits in nicely, but the bulk of the stud would be 0-4-0T. Of course, Highlevel were a major inspiration in the first place, with their Black Hawthorn Neilson 12" GER 209 ...and their improved Pug chassis, which might come in handy. Forgetting time and place for a moment would let the lovely little CSP's Avonside SS in through the dock gates I'm sure an element of backdating would be possible to help her fit in. Compare to Aid below. More research has suggested these may be of interest and relevance: http://www.lytchettmanor.co.uk/lytchett-manor/oo-gauge-loco-kits https://www.rtmodels.co.uk/rt_models_022.htm https://traders.scalefour.org/LondonRoadModels/carriages/north-london-rlwy-carriages/ (a bit of a punt, leaning on West India's links with the NLR, for PAX services around the dock) https://traders.scalefour.org/LondonRoadModels/locos-tenders-chassis/lnwr/ ...no excuse..but...well...look at her! In terms of RTR, a deft finger on The Hands of Time could excuse a Hornby Peckett W4 Suspiciously close the the late MER/early PLA livery An even gentler hand would be required for a little back-dating, although even in the 1870s Fox Walker (taken over by Thomas Peckett in 1881) loco's looked rather nouveau: 1873 NKJ 1 Karlskoga: No excuse really, I just admire the chimney More on-point is 1877's W/N 352 Aid (follow link for history): What a beauty Photographed on or about final assembly, 1878. Do follow the link above, she had an interesting life and was on course for preservation... Ummm...where was I....ah, yes... From the world of 3D printing comes Hardy's Hobbies Class H for a Hornby Peckett W4 chassis. Backdating and detailing required, but I think a Class P would be within reach: After Edwardian put me on to the Bluebell's Captain Baxter, I came across this: No sleeping at the back! Wagons Lots and lots left to learn here, but the fundamentals are a very mixed bag of pre-1880 opens, vans being one in fifteen or so it seems. The Millwall Dock had its own internal user flats and grain bin wagons, details as yet unknown. LB&SCR's Deptford Wharf, 1911 We've seen this one before, but at 1898 the photo is one of the best close-to-period [I've just remembered a thread, perhaps one of Compound's, suggesting the actual date is significantly later, for the Midland pic at least] depictions of stock I've come across so far: http://www.5and9models.co.uk/wagons.html https://basilicafields.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/great-eastern-railway-wagons-part-1-round-ended-opens/ https://www.gersociety.org.uk/index.php/rolling-stock/wagons/construction Millwall Dock Co. internal flats and grain trucks: The internal grain wagons were introduced c.1876, rated for 20 tons, and numbered 1,300. They were inside framed, c.8 plank (a scale ruler on the first pic would be handy to compare the height pof the man to that of the wagon), with a support for the ever-present tarpaulin. In the sketch, it looks like the side doors may be iron (?) and marked M.D.RY? I think these would need to be scratch-built, but perhaps a stand-in could be found in the Slaters 20-ton wooden hopper wagons: The flats were for moving timber around the internal network (c.48 miles of it by 1900), as shown above. The wagons can be seen loading (?) from lighters, which most commonly came across the water from the vast timber ponds, Baltic and Canadian quays of the Surrey Commercial Dock, at the Central Grain Silo. Slightly bizarre, but hey ho, that's reality for you! Scenes inside the shed - dockers and goods handling: Frozen meat being unloaded in this engraving of 1881. Sugar at the West India, engraved 1889. Re-filling tea crates with the settled dust and fine leaves, 1874. As above, so below: "Residents at the Strangers' Home for Asiatics, Africans, and South Sea Islanders in West India Dock Road, Limehouse, east London, 1870. The home was built by missionary societies to provide temporary accommodation and food for foreign sailors. Original publication: Illustrated London News - Pub. 5th March 1870. (Photo by Illustrated London News/Hulton Archive/Getty Images)" "Inspection Of The Royal Naval Artillery Volunteers, By Admiral Sir W. Tarleton, K.c.b., West India Docks, On Saturday, 5th Inst." 1876. I suspect this may show the inside of the Drill Shed, just South of the proposed scope of the layout. Self-explanatory. Helpful for clothing styles etc Buildings and infrastructure I'm meant to be looking into the use of semaphore signals for lock entries (fairly well known) and dock movements (yet to find anything concrete), but instead thought I'd make a start on a section I've been putting off - inspiration for back scene warehousing and on-scene buildings. As so often, information and images embeded from here. 'Main' Shed, between operator and the clipper: South Dock, general purpose. Rum Quay Shed, South Quay, Import Dock. Note the later addition of lean-to roof to the warehouse on the right. Also shown is the curved dock edge, as was until extended wooden false quays were added from the 1890s. Rum Quay Shed, South Quay, Import Dock, erected 1813, looking east in 1897 after damage by shipping. Import Dock, Rum Warehouse and vaults. Attributed to John Rennie, and deemed a remarkable bit of design and construction at the time. Rum Warehouse, interior I think the sweet spot lies in the middle - of some visual interest without imposing too much on the scene. But the clerestory is tempting... For the adjacent warehouse, perhaps the centre section of this elevation would be a good start: This allows for a but of visual seperation between on-scene warehousing (as above) and that used for the backscene on that side (on the left if looking at the layout plan above): West India Import Dock, North Quay, No. 6 Warehouse from South-West in 1902 East India Import Dock's Warehouses 1 and 2 are also of interest: For the basis of the backscene behind South Dock Station, on the opposite side of the layout, the wood sheds could be based on the Import Dock Mahogony sheds: There's more choice around an admin-type building that I think will go in the place of 'Shed A' in the layout plan. Options to base a model on from West India include: The actual Dock office. The Ledger Building, North Quay, Import Dock, south front and hall looking towards main door in 1988. The old Customs and Excise building. or the Import Dock Wood Dept office. Probably of little use, but still of interest and so included here for now, one of the dock smithy buildings: The 'Rail Goods Depot', bottom left of the plan, would be based on the GWR's facility at Poplar,on which: The Great Western Railway Goods Depot, on the west quay of the dock extension, was built in 1876–8 by John Cardus to plans by William Baker and Thomas Matthews at a cost of £24,000 (Plate 60d). Swingler & Company of Derby supplied the ironwork. (fn. 6) The depot measured 218ft by 130ft, with a 20ft-high open ground floor and a cellar below the platform. The two upper storeys were supported on wrought-iron girders weighing up to 30 tons, 30 large hollow-cylindrical cast-iron columns on 5 ½ft-square granite bed-stones and foundations 30ft deep. The triple-span slate roof was iron and timber framed and an awning over the dock was extended upwards in front of the loopholes. The road on the other side had glazed roofing as cover for carts. There was a two-storey office building to the north with smaller offices to the south, and seven internal cranes, three on the quay and four on the platform. Locomotives stopped at turntables outside the station and wagons were hauled in by hydraulic capstan, to be unloaded either directly into barges or into the warehouse above. Iron, machinery and hardware were the main goods handled at the depot, but the Great Western Railway Company was said to refuse nothing. The depot was destroyed in 1940. (fn. 7) Blackwall Entrance Lock Impounding Station, 1893–4, looking north in 1894; and Hydraulic Pumping Station, Works Yard, West India Docks, east elevation as proposed in 1854, and ground-floorplan in 1855. The sort of thing I had in mind with 'Engine House' on the layout plan. McDougall's 'Wheatsheaf Flour Mill': https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EAW011756 etc Dock Gate, 1932 Bridges: https://collage.cityoflondon.gov.uk/view-item?i=235122&WINID=1592485866164 Millwall Industries "Hooper died in 1878, but his son, John Pitman Hooper, who died in 1928, continued the business at the docks as Hooper's Telegraph and India Rubber Works. The undeveloped land reverted to the dock company in 1879, and was subsequently used for railway sidings. In 1882 the western part of the factory was sub-let to William Frederick Dennis & Company, cable and wire manufacturers." "The brothers — Alexander, Isaac Shimwell, James Thomas, John and Arthur [McDougall] — built a fertilizer factory across the northern part of the plot. It was a single-storey triple 35ft-span brick shed in which chemical compounds were mixed with sawdust, then sent to gas works to absorb ammonia, brought back, dried and packed... The Millwall Dock factory may have been partially applied to the production of 'McDougall's Self-Raising Flour' from c1879, when the dock's grain trade began to boom, but the site was not redeveloped for flour milling until c1887, when the premises were extended by half an acre to the south, or 1895, when building work was carried out." "The site occupied by Tate & Lyle Sugars, off Mastmaker Road at the east end of Janet and Malabar Streets, was at the south-western corner of land acquired from the Glengall Estate by the Millwall Dock Company in 1880. The Lead Warrant Company held 1½ acres here from 1882 to 1896 as a yard with railway sidings, the only buildings were small sheds along the southern boundary." Modelling (!) I think this method would be what I'd practice first. The major benefit I see is the level of control one has over the texture of the water, which means the ripples can convey quite a lot information, as well as be manipulated to show the reflections off dock and hulls etc. I also love the results of epoxy based approaches (as seen in Luke Towan's Youtube channel, his Alaskan river scene has given me some dangerous ideas), but the air-gun required for adding wavelets lacks the control and definition of the above method. Perfect for the more random turblent currents in a river, no good for an inner dock. Perhaps practice would solve this, perhaps using a brush instead of the airgun would work better. There's also an almighty range of dedicated water products to investigate. Which will be the best for my purposes? Hopefully one day I'll be able to find out Ships and shipping, lighters and loading Still a vast number sailing vessels (nearly all barques) in this photo of the West India in c.1900 https://images.app.goo.gl/1ENvGPNGnnSfDtNc8 Ship models https://www.sarikhobbies.com/product/thames-sailing-barge-oo-gauge/?v=79cba1185463 https://www.1001modelkits.com/ships-other-scales/6809-cmk-maritime-line-ml80283-rowing-boats-2-pcs-8595593111766.html https://www.1001modelkits.com/ships-other-scales/100841-constructo-s12680703-carmen-8421914807035.html http://www.billingboats.com/da/7/2/boats/the-expert/P-bb564-cutty-sark.html https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/mantua_cutty_sark_789.html http://eezebilt.tk/lightplan.html Books London's Dock Railways, Part One: Isle of Dogs and Tilbury London's Dock Railways, Part Two: Royal Docks, North Woolwich and Silvertown The London & Blackwall Railway (inc. the MER if the cover is anything to go by) Harbours and Docks: Construction, Maintenance, Development IRS Record mentions of Millwall Dock Co: G 83, 204; K102; R518....and Dock Extension Railway: D249; G204. Industrial Locomotives & Railways of London & The Northern Home Counties Lost Lines: London THE LOCOMOTIVES BUILT BY MANNING WARDLE & COMPANY LTD Volume 2 - Standard Gauge Locomotives of Quality - a pictoral history of Manning Wardle & co Miscellaneous Not much to directly take from this view of Trinitiy Wharf in 1866, but it is fascinating. The veritable forest of spars on the left (West India Docks) and right (East India Docks), the Blackwall terminus of the L&B just in front; the material, steam crane and wagon in the foreground, and the ha;f-rigged vessels inbetween. So much to unpack, so little relevance! http://www.rue-d-etropal.com/3D-printing/OO_gauge_track/OO_gauge_wagon_turntables.htm ...just in case https://www.twowaymirrors.com/two-way-mirror-film/ Assorted Unsorted links https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vols43-4 https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/ https://www.museumoflondonprints.com/ https://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/museum-london-docklands https://londonist.com/london/history/london-in-the-19th-century https://thameshighway.wordpress.com/ https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Thames_sailing_barge http://riverthames.sosugary.com/thumbnails.php?album=4 https://www.victorianlondon.org/publications/thomson-23.htm https://isleofdogslife.wordpress.com/2015/03/24/the-story-of-ariels-girdle-and-the-millwall-extension-railway/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_London_Railway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Eastern_Railway https://www.gersociety.org.uk/ https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Great_Eastern_Railway https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Millwall_Docks https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Millwall_Dock_Co https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/London_and_India_Docks_Co http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r105.html http://www.londonsdocks.com/west-india-millwall-docks https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F160821 https://www.thehistoryoflondon.co.uk/millwall-dock/ https://www.railscot.co.uk/companies/M/Millwall_Extension_Railway_Blackwall_Railway,_London_and_India_Docks_and_Millwall_Dock/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_and_Blackwall_Railway https://www.dccconcepts.com/manuals-advice/ http://www.thehistoryoflondon.co.uk/the-port-of-london-in-the-age-of-steam/ https://www.irsociety.co.uk/ http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/server/show/ConFactFile.83/West-India-Docks.html http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/server/show/ConNarrative.80/Many-hands-Trades-ofthe-Port-of-London-18501980.html http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/server/show/ConNarrative.104/Flour-milling-and-the-port.html https://www.arct.cam.ac.uk/Downloads/chs/vol6/article1.pdf https://www.noch.com/en/product-categories/model-landscaping/water.html https://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/Water https://spitalfieldslife.com/2013/05/12/the-docks-of-old-london/ http://www.tmterrain.co.uk/large-projects/victorian-london.html https://portoflondonstudy.wordpress.com/ https://www.victorianlondon.org/thames/docks.htm https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=y0ouAAAAMAAJ&rdid=book-y0ouAAAAMAAJ&rdot=1 Track plan as of 17.07.2020
  6. Evening all, I thought it was about time that I started a thread for my photography. I hope that's ok with the mods! I'm in the process of uploading some older pictures to my site, so I thought I'd share a few here to kick things off. Tanfield Railways 2018 "Legends Of Industry" gala Lambton Austerity No. 60 at Terrace junction Dunston Power Station No. 15. powers up East Tanfield bank Twizell at Bowes Bridge
  7. I have made a little shunting layout on my windowsill in my bedroom. it has three sidings and a head-shunt. This will probably become an exhibition layout sometime in the future. I've thought up a backstory for it but haven't thought of a name yet. It is a fictitious industrial yard located near Sheffield. The yard was fomerly part of the Manchester, Sheffield and Lincoln Railway (MS&LR- Predecessor of the Grand Central Railway) In 1923, the yard was in a joint ownership between the LMS (London Midland Scottish) and the LNER (London and North Eastern Railway). In 1948 it became BR property. In its heyday, it was a busy and important yard. Trains would come in via the mainline link, the locomotive would then uncouple, run round the train and wait at the other end of the train. The yard shunter, (normally a J94 0-6-0ST later, a Class 08), would attach to the train and gradually transfer wagons into the warehouse siding to be loaded/unloaded. when the final wagons were put into the siding, the brake van would be detached and left in the loop. the shunter would then reattach the brake van to the end of the train. The locomotive would then couple up to its train. The shunter would then return to it's designated siding and the train would leave the yard. the process would then be repeated with the next train. That's all I got so far. let me know what you think. James
  8. Hello everybody! First of all, an apology in advance, if some things are expressed strangely. My english is not that good and google translater helps me a little ... Here I would like to introduce my new project to you: I have been enthusiastic about micro layouts for a long time, but "Hazzard Works - a Knagglig layout" by HonestTom was particularly inspiring for me (many Thanks to HonestTom!!!). I really liked the idea of setting up rules and playing with a dice. But more about the rules later ... The dimensions of this track plan would have been 40cm x 15cm, but after a few tests I decided on a size of 60cm x 20cm… …because it was important to me that the locomotive moves completely into the designed area with every shunting step. Rules of the game: Depending on the type, the wagons are assigned to one of the three positions A, B and C, for example: covered freight wagons on the ramp of a food wholesaler (A), tank wagons to the tank (B) and open freight wagons to the coal bank (C). There is also a “free” position on which freight wagons can be made available (D). This should be designed so that here a small platform or similar. is available. All types of wagons can stand in this position. The game is played with at least seven wagons: (here in the example) Covered freight cars, tank cars, open freight cars (at least two each); and a passenger car / railcar. Appropriate cars are placed in positions A-C before the start of the game. Now you can start: roll the dice ... -… a 1, 2 or 3, the carriage in position A (at 1), B (at 2) or C (at 3) is exchanged with a pedant. If position D is free, the new car is moved there and the old car remains in its position. If a pedant is in position D, it will be shunted to the corresponding position, and the car standing there on the Fiddleyard. -… a 4, you choose a position (A, B or C) and clear it. The position is then filled again after the next turn. -… a 5, a passenger train drives to position D. If there is a car here, it will be moved to its corresponding position beforehand, the car standing there on the Fiddleyard. -… a 6, - wild card! You just choose a move ... To avoid direct repetitions (if you roll the same number in a row), you can roll until another number comes up. The same applies if the dice rolled seems inappropriate (example: a car has just been moved to position D and you then roll a 5). But now finally a few pictures of the progress so far: The shell of the box with Fiddleyard ... Lighting... First facades and buildings,all from Auhagen “Baukastensystem”, all weathered, and partly kit-bashed… Camouflage of the passage to the FY… First additions to the background and loading road ... I hope you enjoyed it, best regards Thomas
  9. After a 30 year break from modelling (!), and despite a couple of false starts with 4mm branch lines in the intervening years, it is time to embark on the last great project....not because of my advancing years, but because I know it'll take me forever to finish it!. That having been said, I'm determined to get the basics sorted in a reasonable time frame. Why O gauge? Well yes, it is expensive, but cash is less of an issue than it was. I'm also starkly aware of how my eyesight has deteriorated (I'm only 52), and I've always been drawn to the gravitas of the senior scale. I've also always been frustrated by the narrow gauge of 16.5mm, and not confident enough to build pointwork in what now seems a small scale. So...having spent years thinking about all this, I've set myself a target or two. If I can a.) build a wagon kit and make a decent job of it (not too challenging), b.) build a point from a kit that actually works (slightly harder) and c.) scratchbuild a building to a decent standard (might be an issue) then I'll get on and tackle the rest of it, which will be a small industrial concern, details to be thrashed out as I go. But...it's good to have a plan, right? So, after more hours of research and sketching than the CEO (domestic) could believe possible, I downloaded AnyRail and came up with this: Which I didn't like much (too contrived, kickback siding all wrong), but led to this: which involves a double slip....help! but also looks too cramped....so I finally came up with this: By adding 6" to the 10 feet I originally wanted to stick to, I think the track plan looks a lot better, including a small sector plate for loco release which I really like. The depth of 21" (driven by my cunning plan for baseboard support...watch this space) gives the opportunity to clutter the foreground a bit to give depth and realism...there are a lot of inspirational layouts around that use this technique, and I'm not too proud to pinch a good idea! All comments welcomed.
  10. This layout topic will show the work to build the stock & scenics of a new 00 gauge layout, Inchyra Mill. Construction of boards & buildings is moving ahead by my dad @Upthedale . I bring my painting & weathering skills for both buildings and rolling stock
  11. Hi all Having modelled modern image for the last fifteen years, my eye has been caught recently by a number of Industrial locos namely Hornby's Peckett, Hattons Andrew Barclay etc. Despite being a key worker and still working i have had the time to design myself a steam era dock layout which I've decided to call Peartree Green Dock. Peartree Green Dock is a fictitious dock on the east side of the river Itchen near Southampton, the dock system receives trains from BR with the dock locos taking over at the boundary, occasionally a USA Dock tank or B4 locos venture into the dock system from time to time. The layout is made from 15mm x 38mm Softwood frame with a 5.5mm Hardwood Ply top, the layout measures 7ft x 1.5ft. Layout will be DCC with point motors from an accessory decoder. Below are photos of the current progress on making the boards and planning of the track work along with two of the locos for the layout. Thanks Mark
  12. Hi, A layout I operate on from time to time. Thought it was too good not to share, below is a link to its Flickr page. https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected] I'm not on RMweb very often, if at all so any comments/contact are best directed via the link to the layout's owner. Thanks and enjoy the pictures! Carl
  13. So, I thought it was about time I posted up something about my 00 gauge layout. Its a bit of a ramble, but, bear with me ! I needed somewhere to 'run trains'. I am not so much a railway modeller, I do not really have much more than a passing interest in the prototype railways (although I do my research when neccissary !), but I do enjoy running, modifying and generally 'playing trains' and have done so in gauges N, 00, O, 16mm Scale live steam and even 5" gauge on various occasions over the last 30 years or so. The initial idea for my current layout was to provide just that – somewhere on which to run my loco and rolling stock collection. At first conception there were no plans for scenery other than a station (trains have to have a reason to run don't they !), so, the plan was to simply lay some track onto baseboards with underlay and track pins and to include a station in the track plan. However, despite having a space 12'x6' to use freely as I see fit, this space is also used by me as a music room, so, any layout would have to take this sharing of space into account. Also in this room, is a 6'x3' workbench (originally built for an N gauge layout that never happened !) which I use for various other modelling projects (slotcars and R/C vehicles) and the occasional guitar related projects also. This room is also, very occasionally, used as a guest room, so everything needs to be packed away on these rare occasions. So, with all the above in mind, I came up with a list of desired qualities that this layout would need to fullfill - It must be modular to allow it to be packed away when required. It must be quick to assemble and disassemble – overcentre catches and dowels with minimum number of wires across board joints and tressels/legs which can be set up quickly and require the minimum of storage space when not in use. It must provide continuous running – I like to sometimes just sit and watch the trains go by ! It must provide scope for expansion – extra or different modules may be desired at a later date should I feel the need to expand with goods and/or loco facilities. It needed to be wired for DCC as I have recently caught the sound bug ! It needs to be capable of being set up anywhere, including directly on the floor if needed, so all board connections, fittings and cabling needs to exit the sides of the boards for easy access when on a flat surface. Having had a 00 layout in this same room before (it was dismantled, partly due to a lack of use, and partly due to the Domestic Dragon insisting that my guitar collection had outgrown the living room. In fact, probably mainly that !) I started reviewing all the layout plans I had made (and saved) in the past in AnyRail with a view to maybe slimlining something I had previously designed. During this, I stumbled across a set of plans I had saved for The Minories by C.J. Freezer. (I am sure most of you are familiar with them, so I won't replicate them again here). These plans got me thinking – CJF designed this layout to be modular in form, allowing the builder to build a model railway up over time, to fit the space available to the builder, by building one scenic board, then adding another, and another, etc, if they so wished. It was also designed such that any board that had two plain tracks at the edge could connect to any of the other boards with two plain tracks at the edge – in any order ! This meant that you could change the layout of the railway, simply by swapping the boards around. Whether, or not, this was intentionally planned into his design, or if it occurred by coincidence, I do not know, but, this was the point at which I had a 'EURIKA' moment ! I thought that, if I designed my railway in this manner, it would be much quicker to assemble/disassemble, and universally modular, meaning that I could set it up almost anywhere in the house by changing the order in which boards were connected, or even ommitting boards to reduce its size where needed. With all this in mind, I set about planning something, initially using The Minories track plan, and thinking that two station boards (one a mirror image of the other) back to back would provide a three platform through station on one side of what is, basically, a 12x6 double track oval, with a pair of passing loops and crossovers on the opposite side. Anyway, a lot of messing about later I finished up with my current track plan - On the plan above, each individual board is marked out by the orange lines – the two boards at the centre of the station and storage/passing loops are specific to these locations and the throat boards of each will connect together with its opposite end without the centre boards to provide a shorter station and storage/passing loop area, but, all the other boards with two plain tracks at the connecting edge are interchangeable and can be connected together in any order and any orientation – just like pieces of Set-Track - allowing me to reduce the track plan to nothing more than a simple 4'x4' circle of double track, or any combination of 4'x5'6” , 4'x10' , 4'x12' , 4'x13'6” , 6'x10' or 6'x12' oval, or I can even set them up as an 'end to end' type configuration, either straight, or, in an 'L' , 'U' , or 'S' format. Plus, of course, I can add other boards at a later date – I already have two in the planning stage ! A couple of the 'extra' boards I have in my minds eye at the moment. Where they will go is anyones guess ! Track standards are to Hornby/Peco Set-Track specifications, primarily due to having a large amount of it available (although, the loco depot above uses Streamline points and a double slip off the mainline), and, in order to maximise the space for the station and storage/passing loops, allowed me to use tighter R3 and R4 curves at the corners – with a minimum R2 curve on the points. I am, however, considering a swap to Peco Streamline in the storage area to enable extra tracks to be laid in the existing space. So where are we at now, then ? Well, the baseboards are built, temporary legs (and the workbench) are supporting them, track and underlay laid, fully wired for DCC using a single track and accessory bus (may change later to split track and accessory buses), boards are dowelled for alignment, overcentre catches are fitted to the outer sides of each board and the electrical connections are also through the outer sides of each board. Baseboard construction is of 9mm MDF tops crossbraced with 2”x1” pine with 4mm ply sides which protrude 20mm above the board surface to catch any errant locos or stock before they take a dive off the edge ! Work on the station platforms has commenced, and there is a retaining wall/viaduct/backscene along the back edge of the station boards where the single track sits along the edge of the baseboard. This is made up of a number of Scalescenes kits, joined together, and fixed to 2mm ply for rigidity. It is in three sections, sized to match the three individual station boards so that if the centre board is not used, the centre section of the backscene will also be omitted. I was careful to resize the arches very slightly to ensure that they fitted the centre board without needing any infill, then the two outer boards were made to match, with just a short section of plain walling at the outermost ends. The backscenes are attached to the baseboards with nothing more than bulldog clips at present, but, another means of fixing is needed in the event that the baseboards are sat on a flat surface. The backscene boards currently slide down onto the top of the 20mm sidewall of the baseboards, but, I am considering trimming the baseboard sidewall down flush with the baseboard top as the arches sit too high and don't match up with the bridge. I could always make up a low, 20mm sidewall to attach in the same manner as the retaining wall for those odd occasions that it is needed. There are plans to build a number of bridges to help provide a means of concealing some of the joints, and provide both a scenic break and add a little scenic interest. One has been built so far (still a little work to do), and is designed to 'slot over' the outer edge of the baseboards at the board joints. Nothing holds the bridges in place other than friction, and the intention is that they can be fitted over any joint, randomly. You may see in the second picture down that the inner wall of the bridge sits on top of and flush with the sidewall of the baseboard, which will be covered with brick paper eventually. But, it has no name ! Where is it based on ? Who knows ! I guess it's just some forgotten industrial town, somewhere where all the regions cross paths, somewhere approaching the end of steam ! All I can tell you is that it sees a lot of very varied, and often heavy, traffic - there is a plethora of BR Green period steam and diesel locos and rolling stock from mainly Western, Midland and Eastern regions passing through here with both passenger and freight services on a regular basis, and the occasional appearance of the odd couple of locos which seem to have managed to retain their pre-war 'Big Four' liveries ! It's a very run down and neglected line, and, despite the heavy traffic, there have been rumors for many years that the line is to close. However, it continues to plod on regardless, but the staff have lost their pride and enthusiasm, and it shows in the surroundings. More updates when there's been something done !
  14. (Probably nothing I'd like to start with that because let's face it, it probably is. A little while ago I would have dismissed this straight away but after the sentinels we'll see. I've just watched Hornby said latest Facebook video on the LSWR 48 coaches. They look great however in the background is an 0-4-0 saddle tank in what appears to the white test plastic or possibly the 3D printer preproduction style. It isn't a production L&Y tank as that is far too old to have a model of this type and there is no motor in the cab. It's also definitely not the railroad caley tank. Personally I think it has a somewhat Peckett look to it but that's a personal opinion. As I said, it's probably nothing but I thought I'd share it. I have a screen shot too but as its of a Hornby video I don't know if I'd be allowed to post it so I won't for now, if the mods say it's ok I will. I hope this is interesting and I apologise if it's common knowledge/complete rubbish/speculation) Edit: Now the announcement has been made I can confirm this is a W4 Peckett 0-4-0ST announced by Hornby.
  15. I’m in the process of building a 4mm model based on Boal Quay in Kings Lynn. As the layout has quite a lot of ‘selective compression’ it’s called Bole not Boal Quay. I’ve been on with it for some time now, but only really made progress with baseboards and track in the last 3 months or so. Buildings based on photos in Bylines Magazine article and a great local history forum for Kings Lynn. At the moment they are all loose as I’ve still to complete some of the wiring.
  16. Hi All, I've procrastinated long enough about starting a topic for my current layout build. Given the current circumstances of self-isolation etc I thought now might be a good time for me to get my act together... "Ironstone" - East Midlands rural industrial quarry railway in 4mm The layout will be based around the iron ore mines and systems of the East Midlands prevalent in the first half of the 1900s. I'm hoping to use this topic to update on layout progress, stock and prototype information on this seldom-modeled industry. First, a little background... Ironstone mineral railways were first established around the late 1800’s as the mechanization of the quarry/mining industry was stepped up in response to the industrial revolution and the ever increasing domestic need for iron and steel. This further increased during both world wars before falling into rapid decline during the the late 1960's. The quarrying of domestic ore used in the manufacture of steel came to an abrupt halt in 1980 due to the closure of Corby Steelworks, Northants. Priors Hall Quarry, Corby. This photograph taken during the late 1970's featuring rebuilt Charles Roberts BSC internal use ore wagons of 31 ton capacity. The Excavator is an electric 110RB Ruston Bucyrus Face Shovel. The recording, observation and ultimately preservation of elements of these mineral railways in the later years of their operation was driven by the often idyllic scenes of smart, clean locomotives with short rakes of wagons working hard in a picturesque rural setting. This was of course fairly atypical of industrial locomotive operations. 15'' Andrew Barclay STAINBY works number 2313 of 1951 hauls a long rake of empty 26 and 27 ton tipplers on the Buckminster system, South Lincs. in the mid 1960s. Note the typical leafy surroundings and basic infrastructure. For the enthusiast’s there was significant interest drawn from the sheer variety of locomotives, manufacturers and operational approaches between each system. Often sites were isolated from each other with only a small exchange sidings serving a mineral-only branch or the mainline. There was often a small running shed and rudimentary facilities for operations and the locomotives often stayed put in the locations they were first delivered to. There are exceptions (some extreme) to all of the above, but for the most part it is a fair summation. The running shed at Woolsthorpe Quarries was typical of that at small to medium sized operations. This shed is now happily preserved at Rocks by Rail, Rutland. Note the copse of trees and close proximity of pasture As already alluded to, there is a significant amount of material available out there related to the Ironstone quarry industry if you are prepared to do a little ‘digging’. Pun intended. The Layout The model depicts a generic running shed and weighbridge and is presumed to be set at a small junction between two "pits" (quarries), BR exchange sidings and calcine clamps (more on this later). The trackwork is 00 gauge SMP with additional parts from C&L Finescale and Exactoscale. The layout is designed to be exhibited, with off-scene operation and walkabout DC controller. Adjustable height will be achieved through builders trestles and adequate lighting via a pelmet. When designing the track plan for this layout there was one thought first and foremost – I would not fall into the trap of too much track on one board. To my mind there is an immeasurable difference between a model railway and a model OF a railway, if that makes sense. This meant that the track would be minimal and therefore hand building turnouts was a viable prospect, albeit not one which was particularly interesting to me. For added interest a gauntlet track weighbridge would feature. Not only for the fact that it is prototypical and I had a scale drawing to hand, but I have never seen an operational one modeled before. Looking towards the off-scene exchange sidings. In the foreground is the makings of a Gauntlett track weighbridge and to the rear is the shed area with gradient road access A view looking towards the quarries with a backdrop of a conifer plantation built on "hill and dale" restored land - more on this later The various fittings, buildings and scenic elements are to be based on prototype drawings and/or photographs. Ironstone quarry railways had their own subtle touches which differed from collieries, cement works etc and it is key to the character of the layout that these are captured. I am hoping to touch on each of these as the build progresses. Rolling Stock Much of the stock is kit built or much modified RTR working from prototype photographs. Ebay is a good source for such images, but largely most of the inspiration comes from the fantastic "Ironstone Quarries of the Midlands" series written by the late Eric Tonks. Locomotives on the layout are mostly "catalogue" designs by the typical UK manufacturers (Avonside, Manning Wardle, Hunslets etc) but most feature additional modifications made during their working lives. There a couple of prototypical oddballs to be covered too. Several of the locos modeled are preserved, but most not in their original/industrial configuration. Seen here at Cranford Quarries, Kettering, W G Bagnall CRANFORD No.2 works number 2668 of 1942 is an example of a class specifically designed for Ironstone Quarry Railways (6 locos built in total). Once again, this locomotive is happily preserved at Cottesmore. It is hoped that in the fullness of time a handful of locomotives and applicable internal use wagons from a few quarry systems can be amassed such that the layout can be operated as a particular location at exhibitions and operated differently the following day etc. There is many mineral wagons to be included of course, details to be posted for how these are to be tackled from RTR and kits. I hope you enjoy this topic and I would encourage participation, particularly concerning prototype information or operation. Paul A.
  17. Rocks by Rail (the old Rutland Railway Museum) can be found between Cottesmore and Ashwelll Villages in the beautiful County of Rutland. (LE15 7FF if you are more tech-savvy than I am and can use a SatNav, herinafter referred to as 'The Bitch in the Box') 19 acres of spoilt countryside. Actually, just a very small part of what was once a very large tract of spoilt countryside, as millions of tons of Ironstone were extracted form the surrounding area. Over 1 Million tons per year at one stage from Exton Village alone, which all passed through what is now our little museum. Since all that finished over 40 years ago, Rocks by Rail has won a bit of that green & pleasant land back from Mother Nature, to try and recreate just a little bit of the hive of industry. I have been volunteering there for about 18 months, and with our beloved leader His Andy Yorkishness's permission to start a thread, I thought you would all like to know a bit about it. We have a bit of everything to do with ironstone. From the rock itself, through Draglines & Excavators to the wagos & locos used to haul it all away from the tipping dock. Whetted your appetite? Being Rutland ( a bit 'posh' round 'ere), there is no Thomas the Tank Engine. In stead we have Sir Thomas, the Tank Engine. SirThomas Royden, 14" Barclay, no 2088 of 1940 running a passenger train into the main platform. (The ONLY platform!!) Ruston Face Shovel in operation at our Mock Quarry. We are lucky that there is an outcrop of Ironstone in the old empties sidings, which allows us to demonstrate the loading of Ore Trains. In the past, these sidings would have been full of empties awaiting loading at the Tipping Dock. After the loco had filled the sidings with empties in the morning, they would have been run down by gravity to the Tipping Dock, over the weighbridge and on down to the main sidings ready to be marshalled into Block Trains. A 4mm scale model of Sundew, at the time, the largest Dragline in the country. The model measures over 5' from tip of the Jib to rear of the superstructure. Something like 380 feet, full size. The only bit left of the original machine is one of the cabs, which we are restoring on site. If you would like to know more, please see http://www.rocks-by-rail.org/ Or ask away on here and I will do my best to help. If I don't know, I know a man who does, and I'll ask him!! I will be keeping this thread updated from time to time, with News, Running Days, and whatever else I think may be of interest Regards & thanks for reading this far Ian
  18. Hello everyone, My question is - what would the ground surface around the rail tracks in an 1890s-1900s UK dockyard be? Concrete, cobbles, paving, other...? I'm building a small super-micro layout (link to follow once I do a build log) as a bit of a combination lockdown project and return to the hobby after a couple of decades and practice board before I mess up too much on a bigger project! Having treated myself to the Dapol B4 Guernsey in the original dark green (which I believe I read somewhere on here is representative of her in about 1897) and a couple of LSWR wagon kits, I'd like to model something believable for a small corner tucked away of Southampton Docks. To that end I would like to model the tracks inset into the yard surface for road vehicle/rail dual use as is often seen in industrial and dockyard settings. I'm finding it hard to find many photos with identifiable surfaces that definitely date from that sort of period. Some reading up online suggests concrete may have been used at that time although fairly new. City streets apparently would likely have been paved with granite setts or cobbles, and the surfaces in more rural settings may have been graded gravel macadam-style or just gravel or even mud. All of which would require rather different approaches to modelling them! Does anyone have any information on what might have been in place at Southampton? Any information appreciated.
  19. My industrial micro layout 'Mollington Road', a mix of all sorts of inspiration including Birkenhead docks, Trafford Park, Southampton docks and Devonport, has been making slow slow slow progress alongside other projects, but with a myriad of Planet Industrials releases planned this year, the layout is needed as a display for shows later in the year so I've been pushing on... The basic premise was a shed/warehouse over the middle siding in a yard area with the third (right) siding in hard standing. A warehouse behind this, and a road access with gatehouse and then some more generic industrial building offices on the right hand side of the layout. These mocks ups were added in stages, the first stage, above was adding the shed building and checking viewing angles and the length of the wall I wanted to separate this from the running line behind (note here, the Kadee under track magnet still in place - later removed as more trouble than good). Next up the other buildings were added and some stock arranged to check what sort of angles would be possible. I plan to make the back of the shed open, so it has a detailed interior with brickwork inside already (see later). The angles looked good and promising, and during the process an element of 'playing' proved the concept still had merit for operating from time to time as well! The office building has been replaced with a cut down version of the surgery at Devonport, that used to be by the reception sidings before they were moved requiring it to be demolished in the late 1970s. This is a plasticard core with slaters embossed brickwork on the outside, and extra layers top and bottom to represent the prototype's stepped brickwork. The shed, as mentioned has a plasticard core with embossed brickwork on the outside and inside - the roof it just balanced in place at the moment. The gate house is just a single skin of embossed plastic, but will be strengthened before a roof is added and more detailing. Next up is the building on the right, a generic bland brick warehouse, and then the brick wall by the shed. I then need to decide on levels, and if required make up the road level in the foreground. More soon, well soonish, hopefully...
  20. 2112 square centimetres, it sounds a lot, but it's actually tiny - and that is the area of the shelf under neath East Works but above my workbench... I've pondered what to do with this area for some time, and have mulled over small plans for OO and 009 layouts to fill the space. In the end, seeing my friends Tom Dauben and Steve Fulljames make starts on similar small projects bumped this one into reality and I settled on what had become favourite... a scene based upon photographs and video of NCB steam in South Wales in the late 1960s early 1970s. So here we have Pont-y-dulais (or Dulais bridge). Yes, it is almost 'Pontarddulais' but not quite, with also some elements of Mountain Ash thrown in, really it's just an excuse to try out a pair of Peco bull-head points, fill a space on the workshop and have a small OO gauge layout that is out all the time for running. It nearly fills the area above my workbench, and hopefully it's compact size will make it a good fun little project whilst ticking the boxes for somewhere to 'play' with my growing collection of coal related industrials. The period is deeply evocative and I find photos and videos of the run-down and worn out systems to be massively inspiring - and I want to see if I can capture some of that atmosphere with this project. Work started by marking out a piece of ply, printing some templates from Peco for the bull-head points and combined with a few yards of bull-head track testing out what might be possible in such a small space. I had the idea that it would be pretty limited operation, but putting the engine shed on a kick back giving a little more running length, and two sidings to swap wagons between, appearing to go further up the line under a road bridge. The plan was then curved a little, so that it was more visually interesting, I often find that doing this makes a big difference to how a layout feels. Some basic structures were mocked up in cardboard, this process allows you to visualise a scene a little better and although I had a good idea from the sketches, they proved the concept was worth pursuing further... ...especially seeing this view, the DJ Models Austerity and some Accurascale hoppers under the bridge. The girder is a Peco example re-used for the third time from a childhood layout - this featured on the first layout my Dad built for me when we lived in London, and then survived a move to Chester, where it was re-used on a bridge on a much larger layout. I kept it for posterity and it's nice to re-use things, I'll chop it down to fit. The ply base (9mm) was cut to shape, and two ends 18cm tall made up. The back was added in 6mm MDF, and then a front fascia with small wings and the land form for the bridge included was glued on. Nothing rocket science, in face nothing clever at all - this is largely a working diorama so won't need any fancy wiring or point control. I'm relying on the integral back and ends to provide the box structure strength you'd normally aim to get from the under the board box structure in a conventional cameo layout, but since we're severely lacking in headroom this will suffice. Finally, shown here in place above my bench, but below East Works. The next stage is to add a small top and see if LED lighting overpowers at such a low height, if so, I'll need to look at dimming them or adding a diffuser, I want to make the lid integral for added strength. Anyhow, the points are on order and should be due in the next few days, I'll push on between commission work with this, alongside Mollington Road, which is also progressing - this weekend I've added the missing structures, so I'll post about this separately. Until then, more soon...
  21. Hi All, As promised, a separate thread for my experiences with the Avondale / Mercian Beyer Garratt kit - I purchased the kit, number 29/50, from a fellow Gauge 0 Guild member last week, and I've started on it already. The original was William Francis, which worked the Baddersley colliery, in Atherstone, Warwickshire. Bit of history here: http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/11/william_francis.htm Thanks to threads by Phil, http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/111301-mercian-vivian-style-garratt/ and Giles, http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/81257-mercian-0-4-0-0-4-0-garratt-Heljan-37-kerr-stuart-wren/ I was aware of many of the shortcomings of this kit, so I went into it "eyes wide open", which is just as well, because, frankly, it's crap. The artwork for the etchings is about the worst I've ever seen, with very awkward errors in the cylinder formers, buffer beams, motion brackets and cab front & rear sheets, none of which are actually symmetric, and a few other issues with clearances between wheels and frame spacers, etc, and the firebox which, ironically, is symmetric, and shouldn't be. There have been a number of articles in print, which showed lovely models, and didn't, as far as I can recall, so much as mention these little "design issues". Anyway, Giles' loco is beautiful, Phil, who must either be a masochist, or just bonkers, is building two, and very nice they are too, and there are a couple of others to which I'll post links as & when I find them. To those who have gone before, and published their travails, thank you, it's your fault that I'm here! Now, let's see what we can do to turn the ugly duckling into, we'll, if not quite a swan, something that looks the part, and works well. Here are some pictures for starters Assymetric motion brackets Very assymetric cylinder formers Buffer beams. Really? Power bogie, Beyer Garratt style. Doesn't look too bad, but it is! The etches for the bogies. See previous comment! Cab front & rear, after considerable work to make them symmetrical. Need to do the riveting next. The first bit of assembly. The etched rivet locations are like lunar craters, and the missing ones aren't. 24 extra rivets added to each frame. You'll have to believe me, because they're not visible in this view! As Baldrick said, "I have a cunning plan", which will involve my CAD, a laser, and a pal... Watch this space Best Simon
  22. I have been planning for a new layout for around 6 months. I say planning but it's really more mulling over ideas as there is as yet no trackplan. Baseboards have been ordered so I know the size of the layout but that's about all. I always try to plan, whether using pencil and paper, or computer-based systems such as Anyrail, but I can never really get on with any of them. The only way is to get the baseboards and some track and start suffling the track and points aound. As always it is fictional industrial companies and, in this case, a railway, but situated in a specific area and with industries that did operate in that area. In this case we're in the Calder Valley in an area north of of the Calder between Elland and Brighouse, up to Hipperholme, east of Halifax. The period is flexible from the 1880s up to the First World War. The changes will be in locomotives, rolling stock, figures and, in the later period, the addition of motor vehicles. This small area, in the modelled period, provided a wealth of industries that could be connected to a mineral/light railway, including coal mines,, clay mines, stone ,mines & quarries,, brick and pipe works, dye works and mills. In fact at the northern end of the proposed area, at Lightcliffe was Brookes' Nonslip Stone and chemical works but as this would be on a higher level, on top of Hove Edge than my fictional railway they wouldn't be connected. The CVMR would have run into the L&Y at Elland station. The map shows the area and the fictional CVMR. The baseboards will consist of a 2ft. fiddle yard, 8ft. of scenic railway and another 3ft. fiddleyard. Messrs. Logan & Hemingway have been out on site doing the levels for the trackbed.
  23. Morning all. Has anyone picked up one of the new Bachmann slate built engine shed? I'm looking to use one for a OO industrial layout and would like to know the size of the entrance to the shed, height x width. Could anybody measure their hole..........so to speak? . Many thanks. Rob.
  24. New book by John Hutchings, 'Sentinel Locomotives and Sentinel-Cammell Railcars Their Design and Development' Published by the Industrial Railway Society, £39, probably the authoritative work. 348 pages & many drawings & B/W photos apparently. Some booksellers such as Bill Hudson and Bob Pearman Books are offering this title post-free. IRS charge for postage but members get a discount. My copy is on order, Dava
  25. So here is my latest project. I seem to have turned into a serial micro layout builder and have got hooked on building them. I only have one other micro layout on the go at the moment and that is waiting for me to work out what static grass I should use on it. In the meantime I've gone all industrial again but with more of a focus that with Pastry Lane whish was my previous micro layout. This time I'm turning my attention to the collieries which fueled the north. They've always appealed to me due to their resilience to dieselise so there was the odd steam loco working in the 80s (I do believe so but I could be wrong) . For Christmas this year I got a DJ models j94 and a sentinel - 2 industrial shunters that could have found themselves on a colliery railway (j94s definitely did!) and I've already got a few other locos that would fit in with the colliery theme. I dont have much room or time (most of my time is spent revising for my exams in the summer) or money as I'm saving up to start a new home layout. This said I've decided to model a small loco shed and servicing facility of a fictitious colliery set in the north of England, not too far from the Scottish border. To add more operational and viewer interest I have come up with 2 plans. The first one is to allow locos that would be seen in an exchange siding into the loco sheds for coaling and watering. This would massively increase the amount of stock that could be seen on the layout. My second plan is to build a working coaling tower that loads empty loco tenders and a moving water crane so the turns to fill the locos up with water (not gonna try and use real water though. ) I hope this sounds interesting and I will be back tomorrow to show you a proper drawn out plan and some progress on the baseboards. Thanks for looking and all comments welcome.
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