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  1. An OP for this topic... I will post some actual content later on! All the best, EDIT, 16/12/18: Thread title changed to reflect lack of future CAD activity. EDIT, 27/12/18: Thread title changed to reflect the lack of pre-grouping content! EDIT, 04/08/19: Thread title changed to reflect the further lack of pre-grouping content!!! EDIT, 29/08/20: Thread title changed again to reflect a potential new revival of pre-grouping content.
  2. So, what can we collate about the pre-1933 station, and the traffic/operations? Through trains from where? Goods services? Engine changes? Map, picture of the exterior (top engraving), and a photo of a loco between turns to start the process. Kevin
  3. Morning all! First up a caveat - Whilst not officially part of CDC Design, I am very good friends with the proprietors and we help each other with various projects (and as one of them just pointed out wrote most of the D40 page on the website... I suppose I am part of it then...) The range of kits is seeing something of a rebirth currently, and for the first time 3D Printed loco bodies are being offered directly. The first of these is the ex-GER J69 'Buckjumper' 0-6-0T in LNER/BR condition. This is designed to fit the old Hornby/Dapol terrier chassis, and is supplied pre-painted and varnished, requiring only numbering, insignia and... That's it! Currently the options are any colour you like (so long as it's black), as this was standard for the class in LNER and BR days. (6)8619 will be offered in due course, as will pre grouping versions. Also available is the NLR 79 Class 0-6-0T, to fit the standard Jouef/Electrotren 0-6-0T chassis. This is to the same specification as the J69, and likewise will see pre-grouping versions in due course. A Cromford and High Peak layout is tempting me now, as is a London-area one... The bodies are printed in resin, so do not suffer from the poor surface quality that some 3D prints suffer from. They will be made available via Ebay, here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?sid=cdcmodels&isRefine=true There are generally only a few in stock at any one time (I know that a further batch of J69s is being worked on currently) so if they're not shown check again soon. Also in the works is a strictly limited run of RTR Locomotives, starting with the GNoSR V/F/SECR G/LNER D40. This is at an early stage of development but is on course for release this year, conditions permitting.
  4. Morning all! Couple of questions regarding the title. The first is quite specific and asks whether any N7s made it across to Neasden during the 1930s (I've bought an Oxford one, y'see). I know some migrated there later, but they're not really all that helpful to me. Secondly, besides A5s and (Robinson) L1s, can anyone suggest some common passenger tank classes to be found at Neasden? This is for a Met/GC Joint layout, so I'm preferably after ones which were employed on Rickmansworth-Aylesbury Met trains 1938-39 and on LNER outer suburban workings around 1932-38. Even if you could point me in the direction of an easily accessible source for this information it'd be helpful!
  5. Silly question but is Sarah owned by TfL or is it an 'arrangement'? She's not listed on the museum's collections list.... http://www.ltmcollection.org/vehicles/type/type.html?IXtype=110&_IXSESSION_=QmhX1LU51Qo
  6. Heritage Trains https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/whats-on/heritage-vehicles-outings LTM Acton Depot Open Days https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/whats-on/open-weekends 2013. Underground Pioneer (Kensington Olympia - Moorgate) - 13 January. Train: Met 1, Milk Van no. 3, Jubilee Carriage no. 353, the Chesham set and Sarah Siddons. Underground Pioneer (Kensington Olympia - Gloucester Road, Moorgate - Earl's Court) - 20 January. Train: Met 1, Milk Van no. 3, Jubilee Carriage no. 353, the Chesham set and Sarah Siddons. London Transport Museum Acton Depot Open Days - 13-14 April. Featuring: Met 1 & Prince. Tube 150 on the Met (Wembley Park - Amersham) - 25-27 May. Locos: Met 1, Sarah Siddons, L150, 9466, 20142, 20189 & 20227. Train: Steam Loco, Sarah Siddons, the 4TC set, Jubilee Carriage no.353 and 20189. Epping Ongar Railway - 21-24, 28-30 June & 1 July. Locos: Met 1, L150, 1744, 4141 running as 6141 & D7523. Rolling stock includes: Jubilee Carriage no. 353 and Dreadnaught Carriages 427 & 509. Buckinghamshire Railway Centre - 3-4 & 7 August. Locos: Met 1, Gibraltar & Swanscombe running as Brill No. 1. Rolling stock includes: Jubilee Carriage no. 353 and Dreadnaught Carriages no. 427 & 465. Railway Connoisseurs Day at Buckinghamshire Railway Centre - 6 August. Locos: Met 1 & Swanscombe running as Brill No. 1. Rolling stock includes: Jubilee Carriage no. 353 and Dreadnaught Carriages no. 427 & 465. Tube 150 on the Met (Wembley Park - Amersham) - 7-8 September. Locos: Met 1, L150, 9466, 20142, 20189 & 20227. Train: Steam Loco, 20189, the 4TC set, Jubilee Carriage no.353 and 20227. London Transport Museum Acton Depot Open Days - 1-3 November. Featuring: Met 1. Tube 150 on the Met (Harrow-On-The-Hill - Uxbridge) - 8 December. Train: L150, Sarah Siddons, the 4TC set, Jubilee Carriage no. 353 and 20142. 2014. Hammersmith & City (Northfields/Hammersmith (H&C line) - Moorgate) - 2 & 9 August. Train: Met 1, Milk Van no. 3, the Chesham set, Jubilee Carriage no. 353 and Sarah Siddons. Chesham 125 (Wembley Park - Chesham) - 16-17 August. Train: L150, Sarah Siddons, the Chesham set, Jubilee Carriage no. 353, Milk Van no. 3 and Met 1. 2015. Watford 90 (Harrow-on-the-Hill/Watford - Chesham) - 12-13 September. Train: Met 1, Sarah Siddons, Jubilee Carriage no. 353, the Chesham set, Milk Van no. 3 and L150. 2017. Epping Ongar Railway - 15-16 July. Locos: Met 1, 6430 & D8001. Summer Steam (Harrow-on-the-Hill - Amersham/Ruislip) - 9-10 September. Train: Met 1, 9466, 20142, the 4TC set and 20205. 2018. Epping Ongar Railway - 12-13 May. Locos: Met 1, D8001 and D8059. 2019. District Pioneer (High Street Kensington - Ealing Broadway) - 22-23 June. Train: Met 1, the Chesham set, Metropolitan District Carriage no. 100, Jubilee Carriage no. 353 and Sarah Siddons. 2020. The following information has come from issue 262 of Heritage Railway Magazine and has not been confirmed by TfL or the LTM Steam on the Met (Harrow-On-The-Hill - Amersham) - 5&6 September. Train: L150, Sarah Siddons, the 4TC set and a class 20. Other Events Epping Ongar Railway: London Transport Weekend - 10-11 October Met 1: Buckinghamshire Railway Centre L92: Gwili Railway 20142 Sir John Betjeman: Vintage Trains 20227 Sherlock Holmes: North Norfolk Railway Jubilee Carriage no. 353: Kent & East Sussex Railway 4TC:
  7. I was blown away by the modelling skills of those displaying and working on items at Acton. From the cabinets of Metropolitan wagon rakes and locos to those on Abbey Road. I didn't take the name of one end to end layout, but they showed a complete array of kit and scratchbuilt trains including a lovely 2-6-4 tank, and other steam locos and various LU stock including prototypes in a beautifully detailed atmospheric setting. Plus an EFE motorised 1938 set. The Lego set with various LU stock, West Country 21C123 on Pullman and other locos and stock was great fun and the detailing with this medium was just brilliant. The station and viaduct was fantastic. Sitting on a chair was a huge Routemaster with an ad for 'The Brickish Bus'. I didn't realise Hornby's first release was the Met Bo-Bo and coaches. Wonderful to see these too. The Bayko layout was great as was 'Baker Street 1863' in Lego. It was encouraging to see the kids having a go and hopefully they'll be inspired to take up the hobby. Envious and thankful there's people out there willing put time and effort into these and for showing what is acheivable with thought and patience. Truly inspirational. Andrew
  8. Hi Guys Would like to fit some etched nameplates to my Radley models Bo-bo, anyone know of a supplier? Cheers
  9. I am in the very early days of creating a layout based on the Met based in two areas/settlements that didn't/don't actually exist (a country village/small town and a London suburb). It will no doubt upset the puritans/rivet counters but it makes some pretty big assumptions (not least that that the Met stayed independent/profitable into the 1930s and beyond!). It will be filled with subtle private jokes/references and nods to my loved ones. I have tons of ideas but working full time means it will take a while to get going. I currently have the Bachmanp Midnight Metropolitan set, four Hornby Pullmans to be repainted, given new interiors and a few buildings. I am planning on getting one of those beautiful Heljan Metropolitan BoBos for my birthday present to myself next March.
  10. Just found these CDC (aka Street Level) 3D printed steam loco kits, all quite reasonably priced and relevant to the Underground, Metropolitan, East London and the widened lines. I wondered why no one was writing about them on here. If you visit the site you then have to click the buttons to access individual pages on the Shapeways 3D site http://cdcdesign.webplus.net/page15.html
  11. Hi All The drawings in the Russell book seem to show weight drawings of the 54xx and 64xx with tripcocks fitted. All the photos of 54xx I have seen do not show tripcocks. While it may have been intended that the 54xx would operate over electrified lines, this seems less likely for the 64xx. Has anybody any evidence that 54xx were or were to be fitted with Thanks Oakhill.
  12. Inspired by a fusion of the classic "Minories" layout and the only known photograph of the old Central Croydon station: here is a track plan for a Victorian suburban terminus: The coloured lines represent fiddle yards (blue for locomotives, green for everything else) and the white lines represent the scenic area. The upper part of the diagram represents the viewing area: the lower and left edges of the diagram are walls in the room where this is intended to fit. The unusual fiddle yard design is intended to take account of the available space and the (probable) inability to couple automatically on a curve. The idea is that the trains will be hauled into the left hand fiddle yard, then propelled into the fiddle yard below the station, where a locomotive will be waiting at the far end to couple to it: the locomotive that propelled it in will then uncouple and rest in the locomotive siding section of the fiddle yard. I should prefer a simpler means of arranging the fiddle yards, but have not thought of a way of doing this effectively. The intention is for the layout to be computer automated. The minimum fiddle yard curve radius is 600mm. All scenic area curve radii are >1m. This is intended to use Peco Bullhead track in the scenic area and Streamline in the fiddle yards. It is intended to represent a fictional south of the river East London Railway terminus circa 1880, with LBSCR and Metropolitan Railway services. The intention is that the LBSCR services off peak will mainly use the middle platform, but sometimes the lower platform, the locomotive being released on the centre tracks, re-coaling (as the A1s had a limited coal capacity) before coupling to the front of the train; the LBSCR peak time services using both platforms with kickback working and the Metropolitan Railway services using the upper platform with kickback working at all times. Locomotive coal trains would reverse in the platforms off peak. I am not sure at this stage whether I will build this layout (or a version of it) as my other layouts are still at relatively early stages and I currently plan to develop those more before building another (and deciding which, if any, to build; other possibilities include using the space for storage, an 009 layout, or a 20th century London Underground layout). This is intended to fit in the last space available for a layout in my shed. However, the improved availability of pre-grouping items ready to run does make this project more attractive, even if the Metropolitan stock is likely to have to be kit built (although the layout can at an early stage be imagined in 1879, just before the spur to the Whitechapel & Bow opened to allow through running to the Metropolitan).
  13. I've got a growing interest in these locos, and am looking to produce a variety of models of them. As far as I know, these are the variations - The original (I seem to recall) Spanish Broad-Gauge locos, built for the Bilbao and Tudelo Railway in Northern Spain. From the thread below, I also now know that at least one of these passed to the Madrid Sugar Co, shown above.  I seem to recall the Met A Class were the next ones to be built - here's one in original condition. The initial 18 locos carried names, but these were later removed. There was also the Met B Class which basically tried to solve a few of the A Class' shortcomings, the first photo showing a class member in Met condition. The second one is shown in industrial service, with condensing gear removed, in North Wales. This locomotive was previously owned by the Nidd Valley Railway, so more pictures of it will appear below. From the 1880s they appear to have been re-boilered, with the dome moving onto the second ring of the boiler. The pressure of the boiler was raised from 120psi to 150psi. They also seem to have gained cast chimneys at this time. From 1895 cabs began to be fitted. I'm unsure as to when the condensing gear began to be removed (No.23, L.45 above, never lost it) but some locos lost it as also shown above. I think it may have been sometime around 1905 that they began to be withdrawn, what with electrification, and 40 of the 40 A and 26 B Class locos had been withdrawn by 1907 (All of the Bs had been withdrawn, I think) with one remaining until 1936 (so I was wrong earlier) when it was set aside for preservation, this being the former Met No.23, by that time renumbered L45. I think it lasted until 1936, with one other (Met No.41) lasting almost as long, due to its being allocated to Brill Tramway duties, with that line shutting in 1935. No.23 and No.41 are shown sometime around 1933/4, with 23 in interim London Transport/Met livery, on the Brill Tramway. 23/L45 is shown in preserved condition above, with the later boiler and chimney but with cab removed and weatherboard re-fitted and, of course given it was never removed, original condensing gear. Now, onto the District examples. Not much to note with these, - At some point they gained curved-top weatherboards, but besides that I think they altered little during their lives. All but six of the 54 District examples were withdrawn by 1907, again due to electrification, with these last six remaining in departmental service until 1926, thereafter being scrapped. Other companies had these, and I know of the Cambrian, Midland, LNWR and LSWR definitely using them, though I am unsure whether these were second-hand purchases or new-builds to the same design. Webb ended up rebuilding some of the LNWR examples into quite quirky 4-4-2Ts... And it seems some other interesting experiments were carried out on the LNWR examples... Here's the only set of online photos I can find for Cambrian ones, and I have yet to see any for the LSWR and Midland ones. The Cambrian also converted two into tender machines, one remaining left-hand drive with lever reverse, the other being converted to right-hand drive with screw reverse - A photograph of one of them can be found here: https://www.rail-online.co.uk/p469896013/h3CAC7E77#h3cac7e77 Another company which bought a pair was the Nidd Valley Light Railway (Well, the stock was bought by the Bradford Corporation), one being withdrawn due to its unreliability and subsequently sold to the North Wales Granite Co. as pictured above, and below. One purchaser of these that I had not previously been aware of was the Rhenische railway in Germany, an example is pictured above - I'm now beginning to wonder how many other classes of loco can be operated on layouts set in three different nations, in the following liveries - Tudela & Bilbao Railway Livery (Which appears to have been black, according to this page about the loco - https://forotrenes.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=34540 ) Madrid Sugar Co. Livery (A grimy black, basically!) Metropolitan Railway Green Metropolitan Railway Crimson (Early style with number on the centre of the tank) Metropolitan Railway Crimson (Later style with one panel of lining on the tanks and various permutations of lettering) District Railway Green LSWR Beattie Brown LSWR Adams Green LSWR Drummond Green LNWR Lined Black MR Lined Crimson Cambrian Black Nidd Valley Railway Livery (I'm not sure what this actually was!) North Wales Granite Co. Livery (Again, I'm not sure what this actually was besides it being lined. I imagine it to have been some form of green.) Rhenische railway Livery (Yet again, I'm unsure as to what this actually was. I should also add that one was purchased by the West Somerset Mineral Railway, remaining in Met livery. As for preservation, to my knowledge there are two of this pattern of tank engine preserved - Bilbao & Tudelo Railway No.29 Izarra and Metropolitan Railway No.23. Metropolitan Railway No.23 was set aside for preservation upon her 1936 withdrawal, and in the early 1960s was restored to open-cab condition and fully-lined Metropolitan Railway livery for the Centenary of the Metropolitan. After this she moved to the British Transport Museum at Clapham, and she is currently located in the main London Transport Museum at Covent Garden and looks to remain there for a very long time given her position on a higher-level floor. No.23 after outshopping from Neasden in 1963. And posed with some surviving Metropolitan Railway wagons. At the BTM, Clapham. And at what currently seems set to be her final resting place - the LTM at Covent Garden. Izarra has been on outside display in Bilbao since the 1970s and by 2012 was in an appalling state. Here's what I take to be a 1970s photo compared with a 2000s photo: Reading the above-linked Spanish forum thread, however, gives some encouraging photographs of the locomotive having its condition stabilised in 2012-13, although it now appears to carry a rather austere olive livery, the third photo seems to date from 2018. The photos suggest that, despite years of outside storage, the loco appears to be in reasonably sound condition, though looks can often be deceptive and there appears to be a significant amount of filler on the tank sides. I would greatly appreciate any information on any of these!
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