RBE Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Ah I thought he'd just fell off his chair! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Ouch Guys, both below the belt, haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Only kidding buddy. Tbh this plan would be quite doable in OO if you had about 15ft x 7 or 8ft. The point of this build though is to get back on the horse using the stock I have in the space I have. 6ft is doable for me in the house and the boards can be stored on the wardrobe when not in use. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 sounds interesting, i like models of yards. this will be good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 No pressure then Cav, we are all watching this new venture with interest, shame its not in OO ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 It would be nice in 4mm George but as I say, if I had the room to do it Id have the room to do Millers Dale. Doing this project is hammering home just how big Millers Dale is actually. This is only about a 1/4 the area and it is still the free space on the floor in my dining room. Anyway as an update I didnt get the chance to build the framework last night. I only had about 30 mins spare before having to go out visiting family so I marked up the pieces to cut. I will be cutting gluing and screwing later on tonight instead. As for liking yards it not really a yard. Its a station with a small yard beside it. Should make for interesting viewing though I hope with movements into and out of it. Could park up locos there too and certainly track equipment. Having spoken to Marcus who drives this route I am pretty keen to signal this and run lines speeds correctly. I never previously realised the freight loops either side of the station were both restricted to 15mph! That equates to a train taking 2 minutes to travel the 6ft of scenic area in 2mm scale. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigP Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) -- Edited January 30, 2021 by bigP Deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Ah yes I was using yards not feet doh! haha 40 seconds then! Edited June 10, 2015 by RBE 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I wonder if the speed limit is a legacy of Permissive Block Working? This is the practice where one train would be allowed to proceed, under caution, to the rear of the train in front; it would be used so that several trains could occupy a section of track that would normally take one. I remember, in the late 1960s, seeing freight trains queued like this at various locations until a path was available for them to proceed. The area around Burton, and that north of Derby station, were particularly busy, IIRC, mainly with coal traffic behind pairs of Class 20s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I wonder if the speed limit is a legacy of Permissive Block Working? This is the practice where one train would be allowed to proceed, under caution, to the rear of the train in front; it would be used so that several trains could occupy a section of track that would normally take one. I remember, in the late 1960s, seeing freight trains queued like this at various locations until a path was available for them to proceed. The area around Burton, and that north of Derby station, were particularly busy, IIRC, mainly with coal traffic behind pairs of Class 20s. You're quite right Fat Controller, the goods loops at Burton are fully permissive. Although you can be signalled normally, each stop signal has an associated position light with it so you can go up behind another train. Along the loop there are 4 stop signals as the loops finish at Clay Mills level crossing. However as its freight only the loops are not equipped with AWS. Cav, take note, no magnets on the goods lines mate. I have actually crept up behind a 67 and a couple of wagons under permissive working on the up loop much to the DBS drivers surprise. Not the fact I was there but what I was driving. Cheers Marcus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 As for liking yards it not really a yard. Its a station with a small yard beside it. Should make for interesting viewing though I hope with movements into and out of it. Could park up locos there too and certainly track equipment. still sounds great to me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Good good. Well tonight as we went out for a family meal I lost the light on woodworking, grr. Anyway instead Ive printed templots for the pointwork so that I can start trackbuilding as soon as the boards are done. There are only 7 points on the whole layout so should be done in no time. I could probably get em done in a night if I dug in! I'll bet on about 3 nights tbh! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted June 10, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2015 You're quite right Fat Controller, the goods loops at Burton are fully permissive. Although you can be signalled normally, each stop signal has an associated position light with it so you can go up behind another train. Along the loop there are 4 stop signals as the loops finish at Clay Mills level crossing. However as its freight only the loops are not equipped with AWS. Cav, take note, no magnets on the goods lines mate. I have actually crept up behind a 67 and a couple of wagons under permissive working on the up loop much to the DBS drivers surprise. Not the fact I was there but what I was driving. Cheers Marcus May I ask what you were driving to have given the DBS driver the shock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 You're quite right Fat Controller, the goods loops at Burton are fully permissive. Although you can be signalled normally, each stop signal has an associated position light with it so you can go up behind another train. Along the loop there are 4 stop signals as the loops finish at Clay Mills level crossing. However as its freight only the loops are not equipped with AWS. Cav, take note, no magnets on the goods lines mate. I have actually crept up behind a 67 and a couple of wagons under permissive working on the up loop much to the DBS drivers surprise. Not the fact I was there but what I was driving. Cheers Marcus I'll refrain from magnets as you suggest. Would it have been like that circa 1990 though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I'll refrain from magnets as you suggest. Would it have been like that circa 1990 though? It was like that a long time before 1990... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Well that suits me then. I notice that the main line signal also has a position light as well as a position 1 and 2 route indicator. When would the PL be lit on that one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 May I ask what you were driving to have given the DBS driver the shock? May I ask what you were driving to have given the DBS driver the shock? Pair of Class 20s towing an underground train!! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Well that suits me then. I notice that the main line signal also has a position light as well as a position 1 and 2 route indicator. When would the PL be lit on that one? I take it you mean the signal on the Gantry at the Birmingham end of the platform. Position One = Goods loop Position Two = Coalville Branch P.L.S = Goods loop (line already occupied) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Ah thats what I assumed. Excellent. Of course in reality I wont have a goods loop, it will be imaginary off scene but it will go a long way to informing viewers where the trains are going once they leave the scenic section. The illusion of the big world so to speak. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Sorry for going OT but this one by any chance Marcus 37 Sorry for the bad photo Brian 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 That's the ones. Here they are again on the up goods at Burton. Can get away with OT on this one as its Burton On Trent 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 So I managed to grab an hour last night to get the board that will be the north end of the station together. Ive used my usual method of intergrated framework and backscene to create a monocoque baseboard that should be light and strong. All joints are glued and screwed. The frame is 9mm plywood with a 6mm plywood top. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Rail Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 .....the story begins. Compact Bijou as they say and more manageable Cav - no stress - deadlines for shows not even a Crisis Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Hi Cav, This looks good, and good to see you back building a layout. Looking forwards to seeing that superb Peak of yours on some MK1s. All the best Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 Cheers guys. Im planning on getting the other board built up over the weekend and then we can start on modelling something. I think it will be the track first on this one followed by the platform and lineside gear. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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