pH Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 One of my dad's last duties at Ogden Shops in Calgary was to officially write off 2 of the SD40-2s that were involved in this Robot runaway failure: http://www.okthepk.ca/dataCprSiding/articles/201206/month00.htm I know it's not proven, since the inquiry on the 1981 incident does not appear to have come to a conclusion (yet?), but if what is strongly hinted to be the cause of those two runaways is true, then that is appalling! And if replacement valves were available to refit all units within a week, then it's even worse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I know it's not proven, since the inquiry on the 1981 incident does not appear to have come to a conclusion (yet?), but if what is strongly hinted to be the cause of those two runaways is true, then that is appalling! And if replacement valves were available to refit all units within a week, then it's even worse. There were also noises at the time around the robots losing radio connection with the lead locos due to excess train length. Both runaways occurred on curves where a mountain could easily block the signals. This was never brought up publicly but was one of the first avenues of investigation at the time of the 77 runaway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Signatures in Steel, first got me interested in the N.American scene back in 1993, well worth hunting down as it covers your chosen era well. Try here https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9781550461626/Signatures-Steel-Greg-McDonnell-1550461621/plp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 I have been trawling eBay and wondered within time period would there have been other road names in CP consists to look out for and i have bid on this to modify to multimark scheme it wore when converted in 1981 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WALTHERS-EMD-GP-9U-CANADIAN-PACIFIC-WED19/283325046243?hash=item41f77d1de3:g:uZcAAOSwcapcLO0G:rk:3:pf:0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Hi James, If you mean locos, CP was short of motive power in the 70s and leased locos from US roads and GO Transit. I've put a few links below, the sites themselves are a goldmine of information and inspiration. https://waterlooregionmodelrailwayclub.ca/2016/05/that-70s-rent-a-wreck-fleet/ (comprehensive list of the types of locos leased and when) http://tracksidetreasure.blogspot.com There were also US operated lines in Canada in your period, the Canada Southern springs to mind, it was originally owned by New York Central, passed to Penn Central in 1968 then Conrail in 1976 http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/home.htm It used Canadian build GP7s & 9s, on its trains, I dont think they would have worked in CP consists http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/diesel-geeps.htm All the best Nick Edited January 6, 2019 by doctor quinn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Go to this website - http://www.railpictures.ca/ and search for 'starlight'. This was a train that ran over Canadian Pacific and Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo between Toronto and Hamilton. (CP eventually took over the TH&B at the beginning of 1987.) You'll have to sift through the results (for date etc.), but you will find all sorts of locos amongst the power on this train, apart from CP and TH&B. Here's a sample from the 1970s: http://www.railpictures.ca/upload/the-starlight-was-a-fan-favourite-different-from-the-cn-trains-which-dominated-the-hamilton-area-and-often-having-unusual-units-from-thb-parent-cp-rail-tonight-we-see-leased-nw-sd40-2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Cheers for the info guys will have a proper flick through them in the weekend. On a side note gonna be ordering up the Kadees and the pair of trucks but my question is what sort should i use for the brown thrall all door box car i own since it was missing one when I got it from a show last year. The loco I bid on when to stupid prices so i didn't bother with it but will be on the lookout at shows for something smaller to go with the fleet as i have been using a non era Bachmann ATSF Plymouth Switcher. I may get another F7A+B unit if a dummy ones comes up cheap at a show for repaint into Maroon/Grey livery. I may do a session in the loft for some photos and to bring the stuff down to add to the spreadsheet gonna also focus on the fiddle yard at the back get that moving along for more storage space. On a stock note i know my tank cars are outside the era but anyone know any correct ones for the era also been researching the white boxcar I acquired last year as to why it would be white and for what purpose struggling on that front but progress will be made with the layout this year to move it forward 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Cheers for the info guys will have a proper flick through them in the weekend. On a side note gonna be ordering up the Kadees and the pair of trucks but my question is what sort should i use for the brown thrall all door box car i own since it was missing one when I got it from a show last year. The loco I bid on when to stupid prices so i didn't bother with it but will be on the lookout at shows for something smaller to go with the fleet as i have been using a non era Bachmann ATSF Plymouth Switcher. I may get another F7A+B unit if a dummy ones comes up cheap at a show for repaint into Maroon/Grey livery. I may do a session in the loft for some photos and to bring the stuff down to add to the spreadsheet gonna also focus on the fiddle yard at the back get that moving along for more storage space. On a stock note i know my tank cars are outside the era but anyone know any correct ones for the era also been researching the white boxcar I acquired last year as to why it would be white and for what purpose struggling on that front but progress will be made with the layout this year to move it forward Bachmann did both a white and a pale blue box car. Both liveries are fictional. (and ridiculous) Sort of like the Bachmann U-boat in action red. CP never owned any. Canadian Pacific had their own colour coding prior to the corporate multi-mark implementation. Some were carried over into the CP rail period. tuscan & grey - locomotives oxide - most box cars yellow* - heat insulated black* - gondola, flat car, mow green* - newsprint silver* - refrigerated or express passenger. CP multi mark colours. green - CP ships & containers blue - CP transport / Smith transport (trucking) & containers orange - CP air action red - CP Rail * with the addition of the colours above. Fording Coal - no multimark Pan Canadian Petroleum - no multimark CNCP telecommunication - no multimark Marathon real estate - no multimark. CP hotels - no multimark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Ah cheers for the info Andrew will get it resprayed into a non fake colour when i find cheap CP multimark decals somewhere for the boxcars otherwise it can just stay as it. The white boxcar and the CANFOR thrall all door boxcar i purchased together look like life like brand products similar to the AP lumber one i got Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Ah cheers for the info Andrew will get it resprayed into a non fake colour when i find cheap CP multimark decals somewhere for the boxcars otherwise it can just stay as it. The white boxcar and the CANFOR thrall all door boxcar i purchased together look like life like brand products similar to the AP lumber one i got Decals: Microscale set number 87-221. The action red will be more difficult. I get mine from Canada via the MiL. Normally you can't get it shipped legally anymore. Model Junction used to stock it in the Poly-S range but they haven't had it in ages. There is the Badger modelflex range and Model Junction has stocked the pack of Canadian railroad colors but currently out of stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Decals: Microscale set number 87-221. The action red will be more difficult. I get mine from Canada via the MiL. Normally you can't get it shipped legally anymore. Model Junction used to stock it in the Poly-S range but they haven't had it in ages. There is the Badger modelflex range and Model Junction has stocked the pack of Canadian railroad colors but currently out of stock. Cheers again Andrew also do you know what length the white boxcar would represent/style so i don't pick the wrong one to model. I will also keep an eye out on the decals there a bit outside the budget but they might go for a cheaper price ad will take a look at the CP pack from model junction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Cheers again Andrew also do you know what length the white boxcar would represent/style so i don't pick the wrong one to model. I will also keep an eye out on the decals there a bit outside the budget but they might go for a cheaper price ad will take a look at the CP pack from model junction Not sure to be honest. Most likely it is a generic 40' that has no actual prototype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Hi James, I've found a part-used set of 87-221 that you can have if you pm me an address. I have used Tamiya X7 for Action Red, it's perhaps a little dark but nobody's commented on it, this is my MLW C424. Nick Palette has used VW Mars Red touch up in an aerosol which may look a little closer. I think Andrew is right about your white boxcar being generic but it looks to be nearly as long as the Thrall door car which would make it a 50 footer, Id suggest taking a look through one of the Canadian Phot websites and eyeballing a close match for your first repaint. http://rr-fallenflags.org/cp/cp-frt.html http://canadianfreightcargallery.ca/cgi-bin/displayrailway.pl?o=cprail All the best Nick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 CPR red can vary - look at the different shades in the pictures in this post: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/41022-occasional-canadian-photos-mostly-from-vancouver-area/?p=1441831 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 CPR red can vary - look at the different shades in the pictures in this post: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/41022-occasional-canadian-photos-mostly-from-vancouver-area/?p=1441831 There are actually 2 different reds in use. Action red dates from the late 60s and is more orange. It was also very unstable with differing batches fading at different rates. Some locos faded to a pinkish orange. System red is not the same as Soo red. That colour has changed slightly over the years but like any red pigment it fades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted February 7, 2019 Author Share Posted February 7, 2019 Anyone know of a 70s style grain unloading facility that could be modeled to spot grain cars at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor quinn Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Hi James, There's a couple of threads here on unloading grain boxcars. The pdf at the start of the first link takes a are to open on my tablet. https://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/28945?page=1 http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/209594.aspx Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted February 11, 2019 Author Share Posted February 11, 2019 These 2 arrived today from Ebay and look smart behind the baggage car iv had for a while just one more to hind to complete it 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 Been doing some research during my lunch break at work and have noted the following i may need to tackle on a model GP7 8409 - noted from pics its missing the yellow handrails and yellow on the steps The other below are notes on whats ongoing with the project I noticed the kadee on one end of the dome car and possibly seaview need attention Need to order up the trucks and kadees next month to finish off the Thrall all door project Purchase points for the fiddle yard to finish and replace older points ready for purchase of a power supply so I can mount the point motors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted February 15, 2019 Author Share Posted February 15, 2019 Found this on a memory stick from dads photos from super train 2014 if anyone knows what number and type it is 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 That would be a Fairbanks Morse H24-66 built by Canadian Locomotive Company in Kingston Ontario better known as a Trainmaster. They spent most of their time out west in the mountains of BC and Alberta. HTH David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 As David said, its a Trainmaster. The model is from Atlas and sadly no longer in production. Athearn did a blue box one many years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted February 20, 2019 Author Share Posted February 20, 2019 Cheers for the info I have been contemplating cutting the baseboard down keeping the model part but turning it into an L shape in the corner of the room to make more space and use sort of cassettes to bring items in and out. I have been contemplating the following options 1) Since the scenic side will pass through the tunnel end with the L shape I have considered a small number of sidings maybe have a railway station (dibber25 do you have anymore of the station in your 2nd share shot with the RDC), May even add something like a timber loading yard or some kind of extra industry or i might build the full grain kit and use the small space for something else to do with boxcars 2) A station and a depot maybe have the station in the front and the small depot in the back or a small maintenance depot with a shed 3) A simple freight yard with a small portacabin and a yard maybe a fueling point between one of the tracks what are your ideas on these or have your own ideas to share Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 A quick Session this morning before work F7A 1404 was shunted into the siding as it failed on the passenger service After shunting F7A 1401 GP7 8409 takes over on the passenger service 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamessolomon Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 On the workbench is 8409 getting masked up on one side to do the yellow rains is humbrol 24 a good yellow to use. Another question 8411 has white side cab window frames was this true on the rest of the GP7s at the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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