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Locomotion Models announce D8000 and King George V models

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Even an aged steam loco in pristine condition is mix of mat and gloss paint. All colour photos I have show boiler cladding as shiny and the smoke box a plain mat. I am somewhat surprised no one has done that yet.

 

Scroll down to King Edward II here for example: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69360-blog-steam-locomotives-in-profile-2-the-gwr-kings-the-gwr-kings/

I routinely did this for 40 years or so. The smoke boxes are generally unclad and paint thereon is quickly affected by heat. Smokebox, cab roof and tender top always look better in mat black or slightly greyish-black. However, King George V is being represented as outshopped hence its glossy smokebox paint.

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It may be of interest that Southern Pacific, among other North American Railroads, usually painted the smokebox casing in "silver", usually a greyish hued silver.  (Though the Daylight paint scheme was an exception).

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Locomotion Models have also kindly provided an unpowered review sample of the pre-production decorated King George V in its limited edition guise which means an opportunity for you to take a close look at the forthcoming King. It is anticipated that delivery of the model, priced at £159.99 will be available early autumn.

 

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Definitely raised the bar...

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Not modelling GWR /WR, but took the plunge with locomotion for KGV, and will likely do the same with Hattons for KEII, because, lets face it, the ongoing use and preservation of the real one's is what is really important.

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Not modelling GWR /WR, but took the plunge with locomotion for KGV, and will likely do the same with Hattons for KEII, because, lets face it, the ongoing use and preservation of the real one's is what is really important.

Well said that man.

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Hi Locomotion. Do you have news from Hornby as to a projected date for release of the Kings? Been a few weeks since we have heard anything and the release dates on their website are beginning to slip.

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Hi Locomotion. Do you have news from Hornby as to a projected date for release of the Kings? Been a few weeks since we have heard anything and the release dates on their website are beginning to slip.

Hi,  We are trying to get a definite date from Hornby at the moment for delivery and as soon as we get the info I will pass it on

Cheers

Sandra 

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Thanks Sandra. Very excited about this loco release!

Going to take pride of place in a display box.

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Got an email from Locomotion on the 6th, surprised it hasn't been spoke of on here yet, part of it reads as follows:

 

 

 

Hello


Thank you for ordering, and in some cases, paying for the above Hornby model.


We were expecting to take delivery on or around the 6th October but that date has now been amended by Hornby.


Hornby tell us that the models will now be arriving in the UK on or before the 17th November and hope to despatch them to Locomotion shortly after they arrive at the Hornby warehouse If this occurs it means that once they arrive I can have them despatched to all my customers a day or two later using a next day delivery service for every model.

 

 

I am more than happy to wait having already paid. I've never bought a kettle before would you believe, i've always been a diesel person... must be getting nostalgic as I get older!

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The King has apparently sold out and here's what you get for your money.

 

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That you for those pictures. The finish is superb. I believe that the edition is limited to 250, which is quite low. Is it perhaps an experiment to see how well gloss paintwork sells? I wonder if an appetite for gloss will develop when people realise how it appears much more like metal than a matt finish.

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It also helps to disguise that horrid green from Hornby.

It might just possibly be a different shade underneath the gloss ?

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Maybe Ian - but whichever it does at least look right in the pics posted above.

Which again poses the question why.Why perpetrate Hornby "own brand" GWR/BR (W) sagebrush green ? Especially when there's a potentially superior model waiting in the wings. If Locomotion appear to be on the money with the paint job,why does its main range seemingly present in this livery ? I ask myself if this has been rushed to market without correct research.From Robin's images,I would be unhappy to buy the two main range items on display.Obviously,I am not alone in this.Whilst Hornby have been doing so well with its recent releases,this is a great pity.

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Apart from the shade of green, the thing that stands out for me is the lining - the orange lining is too wide and the black too narrow.  This is particularly noticeable on the boiler bands.  From a distance all one sees is orange.  This is not unique to Hornby - I have the same problem with a Bachmann Hall.

 

Maybe the printing process does not allow lines below a certain width.

 

Mike

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I am pretty sure the lining can be done very finely, as Hornby has shown time and time again on the sides. The problem is the width of the boiler bands - they are too narrow. Always were.

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It might just possibly be a different shade underneath the gloss ?

I think it is the same shade varnished. There was an article in a recent RM were they varnished the recent Star and it emerged very similar to the varnished 6000.

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I think it is the same shade varnished. There was an article in a recent RM were they varnished the recent Star and it emerged very similar to the varnished 6000.

That makes sense. I can't see them improving the shade and then not using it on the main range models.

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I think it is the same shade varnished. There was an article in a recent RM were they varnished the recent Star and it emerged very similar to the varnished 6000.

 

An interesting observation.Maybe the same treatment applied to the new Halls could produce the same result ?

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I think it is the same shade varnished. There was an article in a recent RM were they varnished the recent Star and it emerged very similar to the varnished 6000.

All we need to know is which varnish to use.

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Most coloured proprietary locos benefit from a coat of gloss varnish even when applied with lots of air to make it eggshell. I was doing this yonks ago for friends although the plastic was differnt in those day and i had to be very careful with the clear cellulose.

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All we need to know is which varnish to use.

I'm sure everything they used was Humbrol - will have a look in the magazine pile tonight :)

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I think it is the same shade varnished. There was an article in a recent RM were they varnished the recent Star and it emerged very similar to the varnished 6000.

 

Take a look at a GWR - or BR green - locomotive at a preserved railway that has not been in service for a while awaiting overhaul.  When the varnsh has weathered away they look very much like the unvarnished Hornby models - I am thinking particularly of Dumbleton Hall at the South Devon Railway which looked very dull when I saw her last.  Mind you some of the greens used to paint GWR and BR green locomotives in the 'preservation' era are decididly 'iffy'.  Also Swindon was known to be very sparing with its use of varnish and those splendidly shiny engines emerging from A shop didn't stay that way for long unless they were very well maintained.  Any of the colour albums will show that the green faded very quickly.

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