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Talking Lima class 101 front windows has led me to finding your excellent thread!

 

Gradually working my way through from the beginning.  Very inspirational I must say!  Mrs CDF hasn't heard a peep from me all morning!

 

All the best,

 

Vivian

 

 

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Hi Vivien

 

Really pleased you've found it interesting. Us talking 101 windows has got me thinking I should finish my lima effort. I'm attempting to get the layout up and running first but am missing bashing stock about. Work just gets in the way of good modelling time :)

 

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Will 

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Hi Will,

 

Over on the DEMU forum you mentioned you mentioned your 47 project on here. Do you know where I can find it? It would be nice to have a read.

 

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For the first time in an age I've done a bit of Loco Modelling.... well not particurly taxing. Rubbed on some DRD transfers, a bit of final weathering and a coat of satin varnish;

 

60037 Helvelyn

 

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Galzing since fixed!!

 

60064 Back Tor (hopefully looking a bit battered)

 

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Enjoy the Sunshine 

:sungum:

 

Will

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3 hours ago, Wayne 37901 said:

Hi Will,

 

Over on the DEMU forum you mentioned you mentioned your 47 project on here. Do you know where I can find it? It would be nice to have a read.

 

Cheers

 

Hi Wayne

 

It's admittly very random when I have a go at a 47.... TBH I've not written up much on them. They're all Vitrains and I've bashed a body of a RES example earlier on the thread. But I thought I'd try and improve it a little further and 47600 is probably most advanced currently - although as soon as I've finished building buffer stops I plan on attacking the NSE example. I'm aiming for them to be examples from the Waterloo to Exeter or Paddington to Oxford routes that I have a photo of.

 

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Will

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Thanks Jules :)

I'm going to have a rest from 60s for quite some time now.

Cheers 

Will 

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I decided to have a rest from the layout and for a bit of light relief (?) I've had have a play with a Vitrains 47. I have to admit I'm growing to quite like duffs and until Heljan introduce their new and improved version the Vitrains version is my favourite. And I have a number of Vitrains to play with (cause they're cheap n cheerfull and are the easiest to convert to EM).

 

47600 is my prototype for trying to improve them. First up cool fan walls made from milput;

 

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I've also lost some more sanity and had a go at cantrail handrails form 0.2mm wire. I've made a jig and think I'm getting better so the next loco will hopefully be neater!

 

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I'd previously fitted the windscreens so today I've added a lamp bracket from Shawplan, (probably foldered up the wrong way but pleased with how it looks). Next up were handrails which have been made from 0.5mm wire. They all were drilled out to 0.5mm from exsiting holes. I did debate with myself on whether I should re-align the handrails by the tail lights as they're positioned a little wide but then decided against the effort involved! Maybe I've had too much sun this bank holiday and feel lazy!!

 

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Hopefully they look neat enough! In an attempt to create some uniformity I've created the hand rails from my super high tech Jig;

 

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I'll use this to create a load while watching some football on the telly. It's a shame the bank holiday is over so soon and wow it's been hot and sunny!!  :sungum:

 

cheers

Will

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Stunning work Will! The windscreen looks fantastic! Laserglaze will finish that off!

 

keep up the good work!

 

Will

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3 hours ago, dj_crisp said:

I've also lost some more sanity and had a go at cantrail handrails from 0.2mm wire....

 

Maybe I've had too much sun this bank holiday and feel lazy!!...

 

I wouldn’t call that laziness! Laziness would be my approach using the original etched ones...

 

Top drawer work as usual Will, the level of detail is outstanding; I look forward to seeing the finished beast! :senile:

 

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Thanks again Will!

 

Totally agree laserglaze will make a difference.  I haven't yet found any that fit and I've been badgering Brian to make some to match his frames.... however he's always got far more important things on the go! 

 

I've just fitted a crude approximation to windscreen washers and I'm now pondering whether the high intensity light is quite right. Changing that might be a step too far.

 

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Will

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Hi Will,

 

Progress on the 47 is looking good, I think the ViTrains model is a good base to work from and I have a couple waiting to be done.

 

One question about how you photograph your projects though, I've just posted a photo of my 26 in my workbench thread but I have all the garden table in the background. What do you use, it looks like a white tablecloth or something?

 

Cheers,

Wayne

 

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Thanks Wayne.

 

My photo setup is embarissingly simple - two white shelves (one upright propped up by a brick and the other flat on my garden table). I like to photograph outdoors so try to only take photos on a sunny day! I do use a tripod with my old bridge camera and tend to crop the image at the end (if I'm blinded by the sun and can't see my LCD viewer to get the right image).

 

One day I plan on upgrading this setup to a more modern SLR camera... but models and shawplan stuff seem to take cash priority ;)

 

cheers

Will

 

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Modelling time has been very much at a premium since my last post and what little time I've had has been Vitrains 47 focussed. Sorry for the very naff photos;

 

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47600 has had a bit of paint added - precision rail blue and railmatch yellow. I've got some tidy up painting to do around the cantrails and then add the warning stripe but when varnished I think it'll all bed in nicely.

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You can't really see it in my terrible photos but I've done a bit extra on the front. The Vitrains headlight always looked a bit long and thin to me so I was contemplating fitting a new one. However that was far too much work so I've simply filed it down and created new bolt holes with a light punch (the plastic is so soft it's dead easy). Also added a thin bit of plasticard to give an impression there are washers on the nose. Overall happier with the face of the loco now.

 

I've always wanted to model 47401.... but on removing nameplates from the Vitrains release I made a right mess up of the paint. As the front needs respraying in a nicer shade of yellow... and the roof needs patch paintin at a minimum I've just decided to strip it and start again.

 

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The first 10 locos had different cantrail grills and I've lost a bit of sanity and had a go at representing them by removing the extra struts with a sharp knife. It needs priming to see if I've been successful... but I'll only do that when I've done the other side which might take some time!

 

And a few more victims have joined the production line;

 

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Respraying the warning yellow really makes a difference! You'll have to trust me on that one as my photos are terrible. And I do like the reduced headlights. I'm not happy with the Railmatch NSE blue which looks dull in comparison to the original so this will have a coat of Precision NSE blue soon to try and patch paint bits in. I'm not sure what the roof colour will be. I'll probablly go for black then weather it down. If anyone knows please let me know!

 

There is a little theme to these... I've found a flickr photo where they've been on the waterloo-exeter or paddington-oxford routes on passenger duties mostly looking battered. Thats kind of south west enough for me ;)

 

Happy Modelling

Will

 

 

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A strange loco on the bench...

 

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I'm aiming to do a preserved 40 with as minimal modelling as possible. I managed to pick up a retooled body and so have applied some shawplan frames. One thing I dislike is the join between the body and the seperate front nose which Bachmann didn't do on their previous release. The join is really noticible with this livery so I'm applying some filler to hide it. Also by trying to hide the join I've found out the nose is larger than the body! I've done loads of filing to improve the join and now some filler has been applied which will hopefully hide the join.

 

Now for some real minimal modelling!! The Superb PCA from Accurscale

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They're so nice the inners of the rake will have scale couplings with a kadee on each end. So I've removed the NEM socket on the 3 link ends and painted some buffers. The line up above is choosing EM wheels... as I couldn't resize the originals and fit them in (need a lathe to turn them down). From the thread on these wagons I've learnt that the scale size is 12.5mm diameter which is the Ultrascale fitted version fitted right.... but then i had a shock when I looked up the latest price for them so won't be using them for this rake!!  So I've fitted a DCC concepts 12mm version in the middle. Close up I guess you can tell but to me it looks ok and at under a 1/3 of the price of the ultrascales it's a bit of a no brainer.


So while the weather is naff... I've masked up and sprayed some...

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Who said Modelling was dull! To fit the wheels I've reduced the size of the plastic washer on these and taken a small amount of plastic off the wagon and they're done. I wish all skock was this easy! 

 

 

 

cheers for reading

Will

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Colds are such a pain... because they basically keep me out of the garage and as a result very little modelling takes place.

 

So I've gone back 47600 (which is my vitrains test engine) to see if i can sort out ride height. As soon as you remove the glazing the body doesn't clip into place and it's rather sloppy. So my high tech solution is a simple jig (which is a piece of scrap brass fret) and by using the original clips glue in some plastikard tabs. This approach has managed to keep it all straight and the same height all round;

Colds are such a pain... because they basically keep me out of the garage and as a result very little modelling takes place.

 

So I've gone back 47600 (which is my vitrains test engine) to see if i can sort out ride height. As soon as you remove the glazing the body doesn't clip into place and it's rather sloppy. So my high tech solution is a simple jig (which is a piece of scrap brass fret) and locating by using the original clips glue in some plastikard tabs. This approach has managed to keep it all straight and the same height all round;

 

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So onto to height. Wiki says the height of a 47 is 12 ft 9 1⁄2 in (3.90 m) so 51.32mm high. All sounds very precise but I can't measure that accurately! So I've got the height to be about 51mm so a little higher than my test mk1 coach;

 

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I've read that the Vitrains body is perhaps a little short… I think I agree and I reckon it is short by about 0.5-1mm. So I've tried compromise and align it as best as i can to the coach... so it's possible about 0.5mm too short overall and maybe not lowered enough.... What do you all think?

 

Perspective messes things up but a link below to an excellent photo on flickr;

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Rubbish exposure but hopefully it looks ok

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I think I'm happy... !! Please do let me know if you think it looks ok. (I'm sure it's my naff photography that's making the blue look green... even the bits I've resprayed with precision rail blu dull look green in these photos!)

 

Onto buffer beams and Kadees next.

 

Happy Modelling All!

 

Will

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That looks belting Will, the height looks correct to my untrained eye!

 

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Hi Will.

 

Looks okay to me, a full size loco will sit at slightly different heights anyway depending on how much wear there is in the springs.

 

If you look up a photo of the tripple class 20s on the 'Three to the Sea' tour, you'll notice the railreight one rides higher as it had new springs fitted before the tour.

 

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12 minutes ago, Wayne 37901 said:

Hi Will.

 

Looks okay to me, a full size loco will sit at slightly different heights anyway depending on how much wear there is in the springs.

 

If you look up a photo of the tripple class 20s on the 'Three to the Sea' tour, you'll notice the railreight one rides higher as it had new springs fitted before the tour.

 

Cheers.

 

Thanks Wayne

 

An interesting point that I'd never have thought about! I had to have a little look and youre spot on... the RF sits a lot higher than the other two! So now I have an excuse that all my 47s have fresh springs ;)

 

Cheers

Will

 

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Not just springs, wheels can have an effect too. A good few inches between brand new wheels and those down to the last turn

 

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Hi Will,

 

Excellent work as ever on the Vi 47, im working on 47484 at the moment, just sprayed off the yellow ends to correct the lemon coloured ones, as well as preping the bodyshell for Foxs' excellent nameplates.. maybe a suggestion, have you thought of adding the Penbits parts to your 47? im adding their brake components to mine as the originals were broken when I received it

 

Keep up the good work

 

NL

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Hi Nick

 

47484 is one of my favs! It'll be good to see it with a proper shade of yellow and I look forward to seeing a photo ;)

 

I'd not thought of penbits for bogies. I've always admired his stuff but haven't ever dared have a go at springing.  But I know he does some excellent brake components so am rather tempted.

 

Today I put on the buffer beams so am starting to look at the chassis to see what I can mess about with.

 

Cheers

Will

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