AberdeenBill Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Hi all, As I went past Aberdeen station at about 7pm tonight (21/7/15), I saw an HST power car, ex-Mk 1 coach with windows sheeted over and a red class 67 coupled together in one of the platform roads. Any idea what the working was all about? There's nothing obvious on realtimetrains. Many thanks, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 That would be a barrier coach in the middle, with a 67 on a positioning move. I'm afraid I can't shed much more light without knowing what power car or livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 from what i have read elsewhere. 67018 took 43307 north to replace 43238 and that went softbound leading the barrier and 67 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 43238 suffered a failed spring northbound from Edinburgh to Aberden, so a power car swap in Aberdeen which is rare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Why did 43307 need a Class 67 to take it north? Was it to swap the power car at the 'south' end so if there wasn't anywhere to turn it at the Aberdeen end it couldn't be driven 'north' presumably from Craigentinny? Was 43238 fixed at Aberdeen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Why did 43307 need a Class 67 to take it north? Was it to swap the power car at the 'south' end so if there wasn't anywhere to turn it at the Aberdeen end it couldn't be driven 'north' presumably from Craigentinny? Was 43238 fixed at Aberdeen? The south end power car required to be replaced (pointing south) so no need to swap the failed power car It was removed leaving the TF at the south end The replacement power car could have made its own way to Aberdeen and then turned, but that still leaves the issue of the failed power car The Class 67 hauled the required power car to Aberdeen The power car then attached to the south end, taking the train south as normal 43238 then swapped over hauling the Class 67, back to Craigentinny In the event of complete failure the Class 67 would then have removed the consist to a suitable location The repair could have been carried out at Aberdeen, but this would have blocked the depot for at least 12 hours Equally, the repair could have been carried out at Inverness, but this would then leave the repaired power car stranded in Inverness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Replacing a primary suspension spring is a day in the jacks. It sits on top of the bogie and goes up into the bodyshell. A secondary spring is a more work, since you would need to drop the wheelset out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted July 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2015 That was from 1E11 which failed at Montrose southbound last Friday morning. The 67 eventually rescued it, but not before it was initially shunted from Platform 1 to Platform 2, to allow single line working (Platform 1 is bi-directional). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.hill64 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Replacing a primary suspension spring is a day in the jacks. It sits on top of the bogie and goes up into the bodyshell. A secondary spring is a more work, since you would need to drop the wheelset out. Wrong way round. The primary springs are between axle box and bogie frame. The secondary between bogie frame and body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfather Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It's been a while since I've played powercar heavy work. Long live the 15x! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It's the speed bumps that cause all the broken springs. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It had to be dragged by the 67 so it was facing the right direction as there is no way to turn it at Aberdeen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted July 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2015 It had to be dragged by the 67 so it was facing the right direction as there is no way to turn it at Aberdeen Well there's still a turntable there (still there on Google aerial views at any rate), and it still looks to be connected. If you ignore the bushes that were encroaching in that picture and are probably now growing through the track. And that the turntable might fall to bits if you put anything on it, and even if it didn't probably wouldn't actually turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Well there's still a turntable there (still there on Google aerial views at any rate), and it still looks to be connected. If you ignore the bushes that were encroaching in that picture and are probably now growing through the track. And that the turntable might fall to bits if you put anything on it, and even if it didn't probably wouldn't actually turn. The turntable is unserviceable and has been for some years, with the decking rotten and the approach line almost totally obscured by vegetation. Whilst the turntable siding is still technically connected and signalled, I think it may have been partially lifted nearer the table itself, although replacing a rail length or two shouldn't be an enormous job. The Ferryhill Heritage Trust has (I believe) agreed a lease on the turntable with NR as of last year, and refurbishment should be underway soon. It should complement the original CR running shed nicely (still extant on site), especially once it has had rails relaid within. I believe John Cameron is keen to see the site rejuvenated as a heritage centre with the capacity for servicing steam locos, plus having a functional turntable in Aberdeen again could well prove useful as the only other options to turn a loco or stock involve going all the way to Inverness or Thornton triangle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumbleweed Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Aberdonians seem to be having some problems lately in agreeing what to do with their city centre. I think reinstatement of this Turntable underneath Union Street could only be a good thing! http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2863426 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie7 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Aberdonians seem to be having some problems lately in agreeing what to do with their city centre. I think reinstatement of this Turntable underneath Union Street could only be a good thing! http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2863426 The UTG Turntable was in the news recently due to the encampment of homeless folk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clachnaharry Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 The last time that I am aware of the Ferryhill turntable being used was in March 1999, when it was used to turn a sleeping car. It was in pretty poor condition then. Has there been any recorded use of it since then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JDW Posted August 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2015 I heard about the PC move, tried to catch it but couldn't find anything on Realtime Trains either, and missed it. Good to know what went on, even if I did miss the chance of a pic of the PC leading the 67 south! Thanks guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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