RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted August 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2015 Can anyone help identify what these are and their purpose. They come from the workshop of a P4 modeller, they don't seem to be rivet tools/presses. Tool 1 Tool 2 I have no idea what they are or who made them and wonder if anyone can help. Over to those that know Yes you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The second, crackle-finished one is a Studiolith era P4 press. I think the mounted tool is a sleeper punch tool, for Brook-Smith track-making. The Nim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted August 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3, 2015 The second, crackle-finished one is a Studiolith era P4 press. I think the mounted tool is a sleeper punch tool, for Brook-Smith track-making. The Nim. Excellent, that would figure as he used ply and rivet trackwork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 The second, crackle-finished one is a Studiolith era P4 press. I think the mounted tool is a sleeper punch tool, for Brook-Smith track-making. The second one in particular looks very similar to the one that the Scalefour Society used to flog in the Stores some decades ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Are they rivet counters? No? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loconuts Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Both presses are used in the construction of P4 track. The first one is for punching the holes in the ply sleepers and the second one was for the fixing of the rivets in the ply sleepers, the rivets I believe were copper but I stand to be corrected on that if someone knows different. I think if the old grey matter has not failed me but both presses were available from Studiolith in the 70's. Loconuts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 The second version came with both punch and rivet closing tools, that is the rivet closing tool in the pic. Same as mine. The first is certainly a punch, looks to have alternative slots for 10" and 12" wide timbers. The actual press is similar to ones I have seen but the tooling is a design I have never seen before. It looks as though sighting the marks on your timber when punching will be rather difficult. Regards Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted August 4, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 4, 2015 Thanks for the help chaps, it's much appreciated. I hadn't thought about track making but ply and rivet is what he used. Probably a bit too specific for Buy & Sell so chances are they'll go on Ebay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Dave speak to the scalefour soc. they buy them to hand on to new members. Money does change hands! I would pop on the buy and sell as people are interested in using this technique still. I had hand me downs from a local p4 modeller about 20 odd years ago! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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