davefrk Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 Goodness me doesn't time fly when your busy, last post way back in March.... The Linlithgow event went down well and the two boards of Wharfeside performed as they should with my colleague Phil C. playing sorry, operating most of the day shunting trains about so I could show and tell to the punters. Forgot to take a camera so no pictures I'm afraid. After that the opportunity was taken to drop the layout and have the steel legs shotblasted and painted. (Network Rail light green was what the friendly shotblasters were doing that week, a bit bright some say) and the layout is still not up and running yet. Have set up a fiddleyard board on it's side on the bench so the wiring can be progressed but so far no Mojo.... Like the photo Pete, sure I've seen it somewhere else, the tall chimney on the 4F is good to know to as one of mine still has one 43999 or is it 43960 can't remember and all the stock from the layout is in boxes at the moment. Cheers all. Dave Franks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, davefrk said: Forgot to take a camera so no pictures I'm afraid. I forgot to take pics of any of the layouts... ... but i did snap some faux Revos (lamp posts for the uninitiated) in company with Linlithgows version of the Tri-ang Hollywood Bungalow. Bet that would cost a bit more than 12/6d in today's money. Oh! I also photographed this pub. Just for those that like level gutters. (And cos it sold a fine Tormore). P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 Not much to report on the layout as business is busy. A test build of a new kit is ongoing for someone, more of that anon maybe. Wiring of the fiddleyard is progressing on club nights but I would love to have the time in the afternoon as the light is better. And Porcy, I might have guessed you would photograph the pub... Dave. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) Well, that's the summer over, still not got the old Landrover back on the road, hey ho. These dark evenings though have had me building up the bits needed for the fiddleyard operation on Wharfeside with the point motors mounted and fitted with the micro switches mentioned previously and now the diode matrix to power them with one button route selection. Got some nice smallish 3 amp push buttons too which have been tested for reliability, nice. The diode matrix diagram was worked out on the computer as it's been many years since I last built one. Of course I made a mistake and had to start again after only five diodes were fitted but they both check out now and seem to be working okay. The first board powers the entry to the up roads and the second, still needing the wires added, is the exit from the down roads, the small relay does the switching for the crossover from the up to the down and is Tortoise powered though I've had a think about that and it might be better with the relay sighted in the control panel rather than under the boards, less wiring. The CDU seems to have plenty power to fire all the Seep point motors on the routes and that is with 14V AC so the 24V transformer should ensure reliable switching. Matrix 3 and 4 to go and then fit and wire up the point motors and 25 way D plugs/sockets. Onwards and upwards.... Dave. Edited May 7, 2022 by davefrk 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davefrk Posted November 21, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) Someone has asked how the wiring is coming on, yes it's still ongoing. I don't think photos of wiring are that interesting but here goes. The middle joint showing the jumper cables, every cable on Wharfeside is the same so it makes setup easier and spare cables are available if any are damaged. Yes it's not the neatest wiring but it will be tidied up with ties once a run of cables are completed and yes again it is colour coded after the droppers. Progress from a few weeks ago. Working from the middle out seemed the best way to get my eye (and brain) in. The nearest end is almost complete now with most of the loose ends attached. Working with the boards upended is so much more comfortable and an old wheelie office chair is ideal to whizz back and forth running wires. Other work going on at home is the viaduct with the arches now filled in and the coping stones added, corners are slowly being filled and sanded to a nice finish and once that is done the painting can be attempted. When demo-ing this at Modelrail Scotland last year someone said the viaduct looked too skinny and lightweight then I showed him the Midland Railway dimensioned drawing of the very viaduct on the Wharfedale line which was basically a standard spec for many MR viaducts so he went away thinking.... Personally I think a lot of model viaducts are made far too heavy and would have used twice as much stone as needed, a viaduct is skinny and hardly looks strong enough to take a train but they all did and many still do. A photo I had mislayed years ago has just turned up out of the blue, it shows Fiona's grandad on a NB N15 at Parkhead shed in Glasgow. Matt Williamson was his name and being around six feet he was very tall for the time, he started with the North British Railway as a boy and ended his days on the Glasgow blue trains (303s). He was fiercely loyal to the NB and LNER and told me on the only time I had a good conversation with him that he hated that Caley lot. As with Fiona, Matt was a good singer and sang regularily with a Glasgow jazz and swing band and was even offered a full time position but decided regular railway work was maybe better, probably a good choice as this was just before WW2. There was a striking resemblance to Roy Williamson of The Corries folk duo and we always wondered if they were related somehow, probably a distant cousin. The loco was photographed for a magazine around 1948/9 as the BR number had been added in the LNER style and had been applied in full as it is still centred with the LNER and not just had a 6 added in front. No info on the photographer or magazine and this photo was sent to Matt as a thankyou from the photographer. Back to work now I suppose. Cheers, Dave Franks. Edited May 7, 2022 by davefrk 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted November 21, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 21, 2019 Your viaduct is looking rather spectacular, looking forward to seeing the end result 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 There's no way that bridge is overly 'skinny' or 'slender' as engineers would call the piers - I think it's an effect of model viaducts generally being low, city arches style. Folks' eyes get conditioned to it. It's going to look great watching your stock crossing high over that valley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2019 It's always amazed me as a non engineer that the slender/skinny viaducts along the S&C stand up by themselves, let alone survive what the weather throws at them! Mike. PS, Very nice Dave. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 On 21/11/2019 at 11:41, davefrk said: someone said the viaduct looked too skinny Looks fine going off my local. https://goo.gl/maps/ELHGEuSqRRD4y7eA8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 If worried you could always beef it up, Big Water of Fleet style: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) On 22/11/2019 at 21:20, Jamie said: If worried you could always beef it up, Big Water of Fleet style: Could it be Jamie that yon Souwesterners couldn't build owt like Yorksher lads. Dave. Edited June 19, 2023 by davefrk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, davefrk said: Could it be Jamie that yon Souwesterners couldn't build out like Yorksher lads. Dave. Not the Souwest for that one. It was the work of a little local concern that got taken over by the joint committee. For a G&SW viaduct see Alan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) Not much done on Wharfeside these last few weeks, partly due to a group AGM and then being too buxxered to go to the club. Last Wednesday though the first diode matrix was fitted on the layout and wired up to the six points. Touching together the correct wires fired the points to set the route to the correct fiddleyard road so I'm very happy it all works. Some work done on other projects at home like building and fitting a side controlled bogie to a Gibson 2P kit, now tested and negotiating the pointwork beautifully, coupling rods made, CSBs adjusted for the ride height. Pictures still to be taken. Hope to get some other bits and pieces done over the Christmas break and on that note:-- Happy Christmas to all our readers. Dave Franks Edited December 22, 2019 by davefrk 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post davefrk Posted April 22, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) Been a long time since Christmas and then what happens, we all get locked in.... Model Rail Scotland in February was good and the group layout 'Alloa' ran well but we as a group being mostly oldyins were absolutely knackered and now wonder how much longer we can go on with a big layout. So, the 'lock down', I hope everyone is behaving themselves and keeping safe, me? I got a letter from the NHS Scotland saying I'm confined to barracks due to health issues. A project I'd been hoping to get going with is a Judith Edge LMS Stanier 3P tank for Wharfeside and I'm spending my evenings building that after work whilst madam is fighting with a jigsaw puzzle that's fighting back, not her usual 2/3 day job this one, too many blue sky bits. Anyway here is the progress so far. It is really a scratch builder's aid type of kit as you are left to add details and castings of your choice plus with no instructions one has to know the loco or have plenty photos. I was wondering about the layout of the cab rear till a photo turned up showing a cut up loco and the cab and bunker lying on the ground, ideal to get some details made up that can be seen in the cab. As for Wharfeside itself the fiddleyard control panels have ground to a halt as I need more wood to complete the frames, the facia in aluminium laminate has been marked off for cutting but I'll wait till the wood arrives before mistakes are made. All the best, And keep safe. Dave Franks. Edited May 7, 2022 by davefrk 19 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Beautiful work as always. What workings will this be employed on - is this for the convoluted passenger and parcels diagram? Regards, The not-quite-so-old yin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hi Jamie, well I did say 'mostly oldyins' and I still cringe thinking of that phonecall on my birthday when you announced you were exactly half my age..... The Stanier tank is for the off peak trains running with two or three non corridors, the teatime train with the Fairburn tank is the one that has three or more coaches plus parcel van which then passes back through Wharfeside with the van heading for the Red Star parcels depot at Otley and returns to Ilkley later and forms the return train to Leeds. If we ever get back to the club we can practice it. All the best, Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty.ian Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hi Dave, Sorry can't help your need for wood. The last thing I did before lockup was a trip to my local wood merchants and got the material for two new baseboards for the extension. Unfortunately the heavy duty modelling with wood tools creates dust which needs washing down. This has stopped me making any progress on my rake of ICI tankers. At least I will have somewhere to plant the extra buffer stops I bought from you. Keep safe Ian 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Hi all, that picture of the bunker looked really grubby and I've looked at it again and can see silvery marks, it seems to be water marks from when I washed the flux off, other parts done previously look okay so I don't know the reason the camera picked it up so badly, looks okay now the bunker is attached to the footplate and washed again. Hey Ho. Dave. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Never mind building Loco kits get that Lanny done lol Keep safe buddy mark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Well it's like this Mark, the Landie is slowly coming together again but the refitting of the peddle boxes is held up by not being able to access the thin foam gasket material to seal the joint on the footwell as it's up at the club. The new master cylinders are fitted and the peddleboxes have been built back up and painted, the footwell has been cleaned down and repainted where the brake fluid had leaked.... Got the wing off ready to refit everything and pipe it up then we'll have brakes again. New fuel tank to paint and fit, radiator to refit and we might be able to start it. Doesn't sound much does it, business is very busy at the moment so the loco build which is for me is happening in the evenings. Dave Franks 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 That is a lot. It’s a shame I got shut of a load of stuff because it’s in the way I had gaskets and a recon peddle box but it went when I got shut of my last Lanny. I need a new project now. keep safe the both of you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37403 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I've just went through this whole thread... absolutely great layout and progress. Is this a home or club layout? I can't get over the propelling 16t coal train video. Are all the wagons three links? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 Hi all, just a 'heads up' for our new but still under construction club website. https://scrsg.wordpress.com/ The Scottish Region Study Group website covers the following layouts ;- Alloa, Larbert (under construction), Wharfeside, Edinburgh Princes Street, Saxlingham and other layouts being built at home. New photos are being taken and stories written. Dave Franks 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted July 6, 2020 Author Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 12/06/2020 at 20:54, 37403 said: I've just went through this whole thread... absolutely great layout and progress. Is this a home or club layout? I can't get over the propelling 16t coal train video. Are all the wagons three links? Hi, sorry for the late reply, I'm just so busy at the moment, no time for railway modelling at all. Thanks for the comments. Yes it is my own layout but I have space in our clubrooms to work on it. The minerals train is the little party piece for visitors, not normally 60 wagons but two 30 wagon trains. All wagons have three link couplings and the ends have Jackson couplings for the locos and guardsvans. The wheels are all modern Gibsons and have been reset to 16.65mm B2B to suit my tightened up pointwork which have 0.9 flangeways. It all seems to work with very few derailments. Cheers, Dave Franks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, davefrk said: Hi all, just a 'heads up' for our new but still under construction club website. https://scrsg.wordpress.com/ The Scottish Region Study Group website covers the following layouts ;- Alloa, Larbert (under construction), Wharfeside, Edinburgh Princes Street, Saxlingham and other layouts being built at home. New photos are being taken and stories written. Dave Franks Good stuff. Needs a link to this thread in the “other layouts” bit though! Monthly updates, ala https://www.emgauge70s.co.uk , an aspiration?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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