Mad McCann Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Are you going to fix the lamps permanently Dave or will you make them demountable? Dave. Edited January 1, 2017 by Mad McCann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightbe Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Just dropping by to say what a terrific layout this is. To tell you the truth it's giving me second thoughts about P4! I would love to see a track plan or overall view--you've struck such a lovely balance with the amount and placement of trackwork. Truly captures the essence of the railway, or at least those parts I'm most drawn to. I especially admire the diversity of trackwork--that line in flatbottom really sells the 50s/60s theme. Inspiring modelling, to say the least. Quentin Edited January 2, 2017 by mightbe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Are you going to fix the lamps permanently Dave or will you make them demountable? Dave. Hi Dave, I had planned on fixing the lamps on most locos as they will be on particular trains but I also have plans to drill out a few and set magnets in to hold them to the steel lamp irons. Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'll be interested to see that done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just dropping by to say what a terrific layout this is. To tell you the truth it's giving me second thoughts about P4! I would love to see a track plan or overall view--you've struck such a lovely balance with the amount and placement of trackwork. Truly captures the essence of the railway, or at least those parts I'm most drawn to. I especially admire the diversity of trackwork--that line in flatbottom really sells the 50s/60s theme. Inspiring modelling, to say the least. Quentin Hi Quentin, thanks for the post. Yes a few known P4 people have said that to me, I did dabble with P4 and helped out with trackwork and ballasting on Burnisland for a while but decided to concentrate on getting my own layout to an operable state, I feel EM is more achievable for people working on their own on a sizeable project. People do say EM is the middle ground but it does have advantages over both OO and P4. The track and wheels look better than OO, wheel changes on rolling stock are quite easy and loco conversions of rigid RTR can be made to run reliably if the track is good. If you lay the track carefully and as the guys in the club will testify I didn't let anyone else build the points - one person, one set of the right track gauges, one standard of wheels and everything should run just right. Most running sessions have no derailments even with 40 wagon trains in reverse with three link couplings. Kit built locos all have some sort of suspension or other more recent builds have CSB suspension. The idea of the different types of track was from field trips to the area where within a mile one could see bullhead on wood sleepers, bullhead on wartime concrete sleepers and early BR flatbottom track. Some of the old bullhead rail has even been welded at the joints with the bolt holes still being seen. This got me interested enough in track to try to model what was seen in the 50s and as Bill Bedford was needing someone to test build some etches for the very type of BR track needed I tried some and bought more when it became available. Time is the problem these days but slow and steady does it. Thanks again. Dave Franks. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) Hi good people, progress still slow on the layout but bridge building has been going on at home. The bridge is based on the one at Sackville Street on the outskirts of Skipton over the Wharfdale line but it is so similar to the bridge at Dent on the S&C that I used the drawings for that though that is brick built. Both bridges span across a deep cutting. 3mm Plastic sheet for the basic structure and the stone is from Plastruct,. The structure was put together with Mekpac then left to 'off gas' for a week, the stone sheet was then laminated on with 'Limolene' which is a less volatile liquid glue and stays liquid for longer so it can be painted on and the stone sheet squeezed onto it. Two of the piers still have the corners to fill and smooth over but you get the idea. This was to be my Demo piece for Modelrail Scotland but I'm enjoying it that much it might be finished before that... Onwards and upwards. Dave Franks. Edited May 7, 2022 by davefrk 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I know the proto type well David. This is a belter, bravo... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hi Iain, thanks for the comments, which bridge do you know - Dent or Sackville Street? I'll take some photos of it in place on the layout on Wednesday, in context so to speak. All the best, Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Trial fit of Wharfeside bridge. Adds a bit of height to the layout, the cutting will eventually continue round to hide the fiddleyard dead end sidings. The redundant siding was a headshunt to a sanatorium and was weathered by Jamie Wood and the ash ballast was by me, needs some weeds now. I'll be working on the bridge at ModelRail Scotland next week. Dave Franks Edited May 7, 2022 by davefrk 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Sackville David, I had family living in that part of the West Riding for many years. The bridge looks fabbo in situ. Beware reprobates in Glasgow, not that I'm well enough to be there - annoyingly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackRat Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Great modelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Been doing a bit of ballasting these last few club nights. Yes there is a cant in the track, only three people have noticed it so far. The dark ballast of the area is my own mix for the running lines fixed with a weak PVA solution, the ash of the siding and cess is fine clean sand fixed with a weak PVA solution with a squirt of black poster paint added so no painting required when dry, just weathering. It all seems to run quiet enough. I really must finish the filling and blending in of the stone piers on this unseen side of the bridge. Dave Franks Edited May 7, 2022 by davefrk 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Superb track you've got there. Who made it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Thanks for the pictures Dave, had been wondering how the layout was looking (it looks great, naturally). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Superb track you've got there. Who made it? Eh, me..... Well actually it's C&L components put together by me. Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the pictures Dave, had been wondering how the layout was looking (it looks great, naturally). Thanks Jamie, so when are we going to see you next, there's a culvert still with your name on it.... All the best, Dave Franks. Edited May 8, 2017 by davefrk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Thanks Jamie, so when are we going to see you next, there's a culvert still with your name on it.... All the best, Dave Franks. If I told you when I was going to show up, then I'd lose the element of surprise! I haven't forgotten it :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 If I told you when I was going to show up, then I'd lose the element of surprise! I haven't forgotten it :-) Aye, just like the Spanish Inquisition.... Remember to bring your baseboard ends for machining, 'John the joiner' was asking a few weeks ago. All the best. Dave. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) One whole baseboard ballasting finished last night and I remembered how to setup the wee camera for a better depth of field. And made a start on the next board. The cut is for the point rodding. Someone once said to me - trackwork doesn't come alive till it's ballasted and I was shaking with anticipation. I'm beginning to see what he meant. The bufferstop looked bare till now, a selection of ashballast, old stone ballast mixed in and newish ballast on the main. I like.... Dave F Edited May 7, 2022 by davefrk 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 One whole baseboard ballasting finished last night and I remembered how to setup the wee camera for a better depth of field. Attachment: Wharfeside bridge 3.jpg [ 129.6 KiB | Not viewed yet ] And made a start on the next board. The cut is for the point rodding. Attachment: Wharfeside ballasting 2.jpg [ 166.82 KiB | Not viewed yet ] Someone once said to me - trackwork doesn't come alive till it's ballasted and I was shaking with anticipation. Attachment: Wharfeside ballasting 3.jpg [ 113.27 KiB | Not viewed yet ] I'm beginning to see what he meant. The bufferstop looked bare till now, a selection of ashballast, old stone ballast mixed in and newish ballast on the main. I like.... Dave F Wow, that's probably the best ballast and track combo I've ever seen on a model ! Superb . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 Well thanks very much for your comments Rob, I worked from old photos and tried to get the 'look' of a secondary line from the fifties. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 Nice bufferstops, whose are they? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 Nice bufferstops, whose are they? Mike. Well I don't know but could it be that guy who accused you of being someone who could model anything from a toilet seat to a yellow polka-dot bikini. Oh dear, now I can't get that image outta ma head. Dave Franks And for those in a more sensible frame of mind see the linky below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2017 I suppose technically on your layout they're scratchbuilt... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2017 I was thinking that you'd done a good job of hiding the pips on those Peco jobbies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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