Zunnan Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I wonder how the pre-order price will be affected when they finally land! I really can't see these going on sale at the price they've been quoted at for so long now. Under £250 and I'll be impressed, but I'll have to reserve judgement until the production BR Blue samples surface. After being less than impressed with the decidedly green rendition of BR Blue on a lot of their N Gauge models and the purple 00 class 73, I'll decide between green and blue when they turn up. Speculation about livery aside though, it looks like they've got the basic model pretty much nailed on in terms of appearance, which is a good start. Please don't ruin it with an iffy paint job!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 The pre-order price and Dapol's intention to honour that for the first pre-orders has been discussed earlier in the thread IIRC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 In terms of that initial black livery - the 08s cannot have carried it for very long can they? I'll happily be corrected but, judging by photos the all-over green livery must have started to kick in by 1958ish? That means the timeframe for the black must be quite limited? I must admit it does look so tempting though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 ah but how long was it before the black ones became green - or even blue? cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 In terms of that initial black livery - the 08s cannot have carried it for very long can they? I'll happily be corrected but, judging by photos the all-over green livery must have started to kick in by 1958ish? That means the timeframe for the black must be quite limited? I must admit it does look so tempting though... One at Willesden was black until withdrawal in the mid-70s - it even got TOPS numbers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Thanks Andyman7 Was in the process of looking it up, but was distracted by the promise of food. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I've got there first...D3052 was withdrawn in Dec 1973 in black, whilst it was 08105 that survived in black and got a TOPS number, not being withdrawn until spring 1975. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 In terms of that initial black livery - the 08s cannot have carried it for very long can they? I'll happily be corrected but, judging by photos the all-over green livery must have started to kick in by 1958ish? That means the timeframe for the black must be quite limited? I must admit it does look so tempting though... ...tempted too, and at least they can't get black wrong... can they... ... ..?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 ...tempted too, and at least they can't get black wrong... can they... ... ..?! I don`t know, it might come in light black, instead of dark black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 50 shades of black? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I've got there first...D3052 was withdrawn in Dec 1973 in black, whilst it was 08105 that survived in black and got a TOPS number, not being withdrawn until spring 1975. Oh, I gave up when food was an alternative option to research Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 ...tempted too, and at least they can't get black wrong... can they... ... ..?! You could take a look at Bachmann’s deep, lustrous black and the dull, very dark grey of some Hornby models. A sort of black equivalent of Hornby GWR green, although Hornby seems to have paid more attention to blacks lately. Then there’s Heljan’s black, which looks unpainted. Worry. Stay awake at night. Chew your sheets. Nevertheless, Andy’s photographs are reassuring. I think I shall go for it myself for my single yard of 0 gauge track. Tut, tut! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I think I shall go for it myself for my single yard of 0 gauge track. Tut, tut! Me too, but my single yard of O guage track already has a Deltic and EE Type 4 on it More track needed methinks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippel Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Hi, won't stop me buying one, but shouldn't there be some balance weights on the wheels of 13240 like the ones shown here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvinley Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Yes there should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Hi, won't stop me buying one, but shouldn't there be some balance weights on the wheels of 13240 like the ones shown here? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2016/post-18616-0-39843200-1458409126.jpg Edited April 2, 2016 by MGR Hooper! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippel Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Thanks for that, MGR Hooper, for a moment there I thought I might have to do some modelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I have succumbed to the temptation. Especially as Tower models are offering a weathering service for these. Instant grimy gronk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol_Rich Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Hi, won't stop me buying one, but shouldn't there be some balance weights on the wheels of 13240 like the ones shown here? They are there on the model if you look closely. By the looks of it it's simply a case of the cranks being fitted incorrectly in relation to the balance weights which given the models development status is not a huge issue. Edited April 1, 2016 by rich_eason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) Seen it in painted black now, handled it and it looks very nice with the poseable/opening cab doors, working lamps, not sure if the radiator louvres are moveable or not, but behind is a nice etched representation of the radiator. All looking very promising and like a much more expensive model! What is even more impressive is that its slow speed running - on DCC - virtually straight out of the box, is just superb! Lets hope all will be well with the production models and that they will meet expectations too! Edited April 3, 2016 by CME and Bottlewasher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) 08: May I ask what is the expectation of Dapol-fitted sound? What quality / usability are we likely to get for our estimated £165? For a little more money is there a solution with a lot more benefit? Thank you kindly! Edited April 22, 2016 by Osgood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgood Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I'm also trying to find out how long black liveried 08s survived - can't seem to find the answer on t'web! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 One at Willesden was black until withdrawal in the mid-70s - it even got TOPS numbers... There's a colour photo of it on Willesden TMD somewhere, can't remember if it's online or in a book...! Having looked at the finished model I'd love one, I quite fancy doing one of Old Oak's in pre-Tops blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 08221 Posted April 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 22, 2016 There's a colour photo of it on Willesden TMD somewhere, can't remember if it's online or in a book...! Having looked at the finished model I'd love one, I quite fancy doing one of Old Oak's in pre-Tops blue. Think it was D3052 - was allocated 08039, but not sure if it carried that number in black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 08: May I ask what is the expectation of Dapol-fitted sound? What quality / usability are we likely to get for our estimated £165? For a little more money is there a solution with a lot more benefit? Thank you kindly! I don't think you'll find that £165 buys you a Sound one, the Sound fitted ones are £399.95 from Tower Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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