Chris Higgs Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 True. I plan to model the Prototype HST during its time on the ECML so perhaps I should be bemoaning the lack of RTR Mk1 buffet car in reverse blue and grey running on BT5 bogies... However I am not aware of many (if any) occasions when the formation was 2+8 with 4 TF and 4 TS. I just wonder whether coaching stock packs of 3 trailers in each might have been more economical for potential buyers (potentially encouraging more people to put in the expression of interest and thus increasing the likelihood of the model going ahead) whilst still letting people model most of the formations which ran during testing and in service. Only my (probably flawed) opinion though. Cheers Tom. Well they have modelled all the prototype HST stock which perhaps is to be welcomed. However 1 TS and 1 TF went very early to be used on the Royal Train so indeed the window when they could have run all 8 TF and TS together would have been very short. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Fairly sure on TF and one TS never actually ran in the set but ran as lhcs on the wmcl. Carried M numbers M1100x. Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 This is great news! Really hope this one will generate enough interest to make it into production. Fingers crossed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Fairly sure on TF and one TS never actually ran in the set but ran as lhcs on the wmcl. Carried M numbers M1100x. Cheers Shane I'm sure I recall seeing a prototype Mk.3 on the WCML somewhere around 1973 - I used to do a fair bit of trainspotting round London with a friend in those days and we were often around Willesden and Old Oak Common as well as the Cross, St. P, Padd and Euston. The reverse livery stood out, of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Hallo, It has been 2,5yrs since the original announcement (of the full length train), the market has changed drastically since then. Has Dapol confirmed that the original spec will still be adhered to regarding the new tooling for the saloons? Thanks in advance es grüßt pc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Fairly sure on TF and one TS never actually ran in the set but ran as lhcs on the wmcl. Carried M numbers M1100x. Cheers Shane When built they were considered LHCS. They were initially going to be 3217 to 3220 and 5805 to 5808. Then there was the decision to start a new number series so were built as 11000-11003 and 12000-12003. When first on test they remained as LHCS - from the photos I have seen the maximum number of day coaches used at any one time was 7. 11001 and 12001 were allocated for conversion before the project was reclassified as an DMU so were not renumbered in the 4100x and 4200x range. Does anybody know the date of classification? I infer that it was before the entry into ghost public service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl. H. Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 I'm sure I recall seeing a prototype Mk.3 on the WCML somewhere around 1973 - I used to do a fair bit of trainspotting round London with a friend in those days and we were often around Willesden and Old Oak Common as well as the Cross, St. P, Padd and Euston. The reverse livery stood out, of course. I've seen a photo somewhere with an 87 hauling it with a couple of other coaches, can't remember where i saw the picture! Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted October 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2018 Hi, Latest Dapol update: https://www.Dapol.co.uk/HST-P-Pre-Order-Progress-Report 60% of the way there! Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'm not sure if it's been mentioned or really matters that much but the power cars are different. 41001 has bogies with diagonal dampers and 41002 had standard production HST bogies. They have differing cantrail grilles too and 41002 had standard HST large side grilles unlike 41001 which has finer grilles. The blue band also didn't penetrate 41002's grilles. It wouldn't bother me if the models were the same but it's a bit annoying having just sliced the dampers off my Lima bogies and fitted the the diagonal type to my ADB975813 when I could have left them standard and it would have been right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Were they always different or did one get upgrades ahead of production sign off to test improvements? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2018 Hi IIRC the non preserved one was altered more and was seen as non pure so not worthy of keeping to make a pair. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindi Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) expression of interest now at 89%... getting close Edited December 7, 2018 by lindi 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindi Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 expression of interest getting VERY close 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted December 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2018 That is very good news - I have just painted some 3D prints in rail grey ! It is I find a good way to get projects progressed in the RTR world. Robert 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 That is very good news - I have just painted some 3D prints in rail grey ! It is I find a good way to get projects progressed in the RTR world. Robert Once again the theory has been proved! Now I just need to get to work on my N gauge Class 87, Class 90 and Class 91. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted December 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2018 If you could that'd be great. Can you start a 325 as well please?! Pleased this has progressed so quickly, not my thing, but got to be a good thing that it's going ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted December 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2018 Well , 325 in red waiting grey roof and transfers- got these years ago from Fox before Bob Davies created the 3D prints, plan to use 150 rolling chassis for outer ends and Bobs chassis units for middles so pretty well on the way therefore only time for it to be announced- unless this is the exception that proves the rule - should I finish it? Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Please start a 310/AM10 es grüßt pc Once again the theory has been proved! Now I just need to get to work on my N gauge Class 87, Class 90 and Class 91. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Might this see the light of day before the Pacers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Might this see the light of day before the Pacers? The Class 142 Pacers are in a container already.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindi Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Dapol have announced that the prototype HST project will be going ahead 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Great to see this is going ahead. Slightly makes up for the underwhelming announcement from the "other team" yesterday. Just to get people in the mood, here is a pic of a nice shorty rake on a test run passing Didcot in 1975. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswrightmk Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Great to see this is going ahead. Slightly makes up for the underwhelming announcement from the "other team" yesterday. Just to get people in the mood, here is a pic of a nice shorty rake on a test run passing Didcot in 1975. Seven coaches were modified for use in production HSTs which may offer scope for further liveries -buffers were removed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2019 Given Dapol were reluctant to make any concessions to the variation in mk3s buffers/no buffers aside I can't imagine they'll offer the prototype coaches in any of the liveries they went on to wear. I'm still surprised (although it's good) that they're actually tooling for the prototype coaches, rather than reusing what they've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 From today's open day. Sorry about the poor quality pic - the EP was running but the young man behind the layout speeded it up when I pointed a camera at it... The black coach behind is an EP for the Mark 3 trailers to go with the poer car. The tooling has now been approved including three (?) types of trailer. The comment was that modifying the Mark 3 tooling has taken time but has opened up the possibility of doing some of the operator upgraded Mark 3s with changed door types. Decoration samples are in production. Les 5 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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