richardw1970 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Platform 1 has been prohibited to all traffic for at least the 13 years I've been working in and out of Hull but there have been rumours recently that it is going to be revived. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Richard, I still have the weekly notice, from memory December 1993. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 23, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2021 Good evening, everyone. I didn’t know platform 1 had been prohibited to traffic for so long. I wonder if it’s either a track or a clearance issue? Well, this evening, I have a photo’, by Syd Young, on Flickr, of a class 123 DMU, with car E52102, a DMSL, nearest the camera, having just arrived at Hull Paragon with a train from Manchester, on 30th April, 1984. The class 124 DMC in the adjacent platform is car number E51958 leading. It was just a few days after that photo’ that the two classes of units were withdrawn from service. Trans-Pennine Finalé by Syd Young, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 03060 Posted August 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2021 Super photo Rob, that's just as I remember these units around the Leeds area in the early 80's, thanks for posting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 18 hours ago, richardw1970 said: Platform 1 has been prohibited to all traffic for at least the 13 years I've been working in and out of Hull but there have been rumours recently that it is going to be revived. I went to Hull for the first time in a long time last week and I was surprised how dated it all looks, especially the outside platforms disused (looks like they are used for storing trains though?) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2021 Good evening, everyone. Well, this evening, I have found another photo’ of a class 123/4 hybrid DMU, this time at Crabley Creek, on the 5th April, 1983. It has car E52100, a DMSL, leading. The photo’ is by Syd Young on Flickr. Trans-Pennine at Crabley Creek by Syd Young, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 25, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2021 Good evening, everyone. This evening I have another photo’ by Syd Young on Flickr, and it is of class 55, 55008, The Green Howards, on train 1A13, the 09:36 Hull to King's Cross service, on 13th June, 1981. East Coast Giant by Syd Young, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 24/08/2021 at 18:15, Market65 said: Good evening, everyone. Well, this evening, I have found another photo’ of a class 123/4 hybrid DMU, this time at Crabley Creek, on the 5th April, 1983. It has car E52100, a DMSL, leading. The photo’ is by Syd Young on Flickr. Trans-Pennine at Crabley Creek by Syd Young, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. Great picture Rob. Was this just before they were reduced to 3 cars? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 26, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 26, 2021 Good evening, everyone. russ p, I believe I’m right in saying that the above photo’ was taken after they were mixed in with the class 124’s and used as four car sets after their transfer from the WR. Well, tonight, I have a photo’, by David Scott on Flickr, of class 55, 55015, on arrival at Hull Paragon with the final diesel hauled Hull Executive train, on the 2nd January, 1981. 55 015 after arriving on the Final Diesel Hauled Hull Executive (which I had just travelled on) at Hull Paragon 2nd Jan 1981. by David Scott, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 On 25/08/2021 at 19:26, russ p said: Great picture Rob. Was this just before they were reduced to 3 cars? Some of the Class 123 units ran as three car sets when they first arrived on the Eastern. My records show such formations in 1978 and 1979. Around April 1980 there were a few three car sets, and by that time it was more prevalent to have mixed formations of Classes 123 and 124. From 1981 (or thereabouts) there seemed to be a sort of logic to the set formations of these units, and the plan was to run them as four car sets, and this was the case until withdrawal in May 1984. One bizarre formation noted on 30th May 1979 was 52092-51972-52103, Class 123 outer vehicles, Class 124 centre car. This unit had two guards vans and all three cars powered. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 27, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 hours ago, EddieK said: Some of the Class 123 units ran as three car sets when they first arrived on the Eastern. My records show such formations in 1978 and 1979. Around April 1980 there were a few three car sets, and by that time it was more prevalent to have mixed formations of Classes 123 and 124. From 1981 (or thereabouts) there seemed to be a sort of logic to the set formations of these units, and the plan was to run them as four car sets, and this was the case until withdrawal in May 1984. One bizarre formation noted on 30th May 1979 was 52092-51972-52103, Class 123 outer vehicles, Class 124 centre car. This unit had two guards vans and all three Cheers Eddie We're the 123 three cars as a result of loosing the buffets as don't recall seeing a 123 buffet on the Eastern? Power triple, excellent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 27, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2021 Good evening, everyone. This evening, I have come across the following photo’ by David Scott on Flickr, of a class 114 DMU entering Hull Paragon from probably Doncaster, in March, 1975. No other details are given. A 2 Car Derby Unit arriving At Hull Paragon during March 1975. by David Scott, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 15 hours ago, russ p said: Cheers Eddie We're the 123 three cars as a result of loosing the buffets as don't recall seeing a 123 buffet on the Eastern? Power triple, excellent! The 123s as 3 cars were all a result of the Buffet cars been withdrawn on the WR. We received 4x3 cars and 5x4 cars at BG along with 59818 which arrived as a downgraded TSKL. Al Taylor 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 28, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2021 Good evening, everyone. Well, this evening I have found another photo’, by David Scott, on Flickr, and it is most unusual. It shows a double headed train leaving Hull Paragon station, on the 21st November, 1979. The London King’s Cross express is being hauled by class 47, 47051, and a Deltic, class 55, 55008. I don’t know anymore about this train, but surely one of the engines must have come off it at Doncaster? I don’t recall seeing a 47 and a 55 double headed train before. 47 051 and 55 008 leaving Hull Paragon on 21st Nov 79, with a service to London. by David Scott, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 28, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, Market65 said: Good evening, everyone. Well, this evening I have found another photo’, by David Scott, on Flickr, and it is most unusual. It shows a double headed train leaving Hull Paragon station, on the 21st November, 1979. The London King’s Cross express is being hauled by class 47, 47051, and a Deltic, class 55, 55008. I don’t know anymore about this train, but surely one of the engines must have come off it at Doncaster? I don’t recall seeing a 47 and a 55 double headed train before. 47 051 and 55 008 leaving Hull Paragon on 21st Nov 79, with a service to London. by David Scott, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. Hi Rob I would think there was something wrong with the deltic may not have failed completely as there appears to be someone in the drivers seat . Could have been a last minute speedo fault or something where the deltic has developed a no power fault and is just there for ETH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 hours ago, russ p said: Hi Rob I would think there was something wrong with the deltic may not have failed completely as there appears to be someone in the drivers seat . Could have been a last minute speedo fault or something where the deltic has developed a no power fault and is just there for ETH 55008 was on one engine, hence the pilot loco. The train is 1A18 12:15 Hull - KGX. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 29, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 29, 2021 Good evening, everyone, and thank you, 45125 for the detailed information about what had happened with 55008. Well, this evening I’ve found another photo’ by David Scott on Flickr, which shows Beverley station on the 18th June, 1977. The train is a ‘Turnabout’, i.e. one which worked from Hull to Beverley, and then, when time, returned to Hull. So it ‘turnedabout’ in Beverley. This particular one being another Derby Heavyweight, class 114. 2 x derby bev on turnabout 18 jun 77 by David Scott, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Rob, the Railman on the platform looks to be Steve Bramley, now a Paragon driver and "A little Older". 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Some nice flares on show too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 30, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 30, 2021 Good evening, everyone. Thank you, Mick, for managing to indentify the railman on the platform. Like you say he’ll be that bit older by now. Those flares where so popular in the Seventies, but whether they might come back into fashion, well I wouldn’t like to say. Well, this evening, I’ve found another photo’ by David Scott on Flickr, and it is an undated view of two class 20’s on a pick up freight at Cottingham, on the approach to Cottingham North level crossing. 2 x class 20 approaching cottingham by David Scott, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieK Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 27/08/2021 at 22:03, 45125 said: The 123s as 3 cars were all a result of the Buffet cars been withdrawn on the WR. We received 4x3 cars and 5x4 cars at BG along with 59818 which arrived as a downgraded TSKL. Al Taylor "TSKL" cannot exist. K = Compartment seating layout with side corridor and toilet L = Open seating layout with toilet. 59818 was built as TCK and downgraded to TSK. As a sweeping generalisation, am I correct in assuming that Class 123 units were not usually mixed with Class 124 units until 1980 or thereabouts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 31, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2021 Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you, EddieK for the explanation about those DMU car codes which, at times, can be a little confusing. Now, this afternoon I have a photo’ by Syd Young On Flickr, of 31445, as it coasts under the Park Street Bridge and into Hull Paragon station with 1E34, the 09:41 Manchester to Hull service on the 10th August, 1984. Sunny Hull by Syd Young, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 11 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 1, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 1, 2021 Good afternoon, everyone. This afternoon I have a further photo’ by Syd Young on Flickr. It shows, 55014, The Duke Of Wellington’s Regiment, firing up one of it's engines prior to working 1A13, the 09:33 Hull to King's Cross service on the 14th February 1981. Early Morning Thunder by Syd Young, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 30/08/2021 at 23:38, EddieK said: "TSKL" cannot exist. K = Compartment seating layout with side corridor and toilet L = Open seating layout with toilet. 59818 was built as TCK and downgraded to TSK. As a sweeping generalisation, am I correct in assuming that Class 123 units were not usually mixed with Class 124 units until 1980 or thereabouts? A bit too much cider when I posted that. Mind some of the painter at Donny added odd letters in brackets after the official degination. The 123 and 124 started to get mixed from around September/October 79, some rans as three cars most as four cars but the odd 5 car. One even ran as three power cars. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 2, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2021 Good evening, everyone. This evening, I’ve found a further photo’ by Syd Young on Flickr. It shows the line out of Hull, at Melton Crossing, with 156489 on a service to Manchester, on the 26th May, 1989. Melton Crossing by Syd Young, on Flickr Best regards, Rob. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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