RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2015 Thing is who really notices different light clusters and makes that the deciding feature over whether they buy a certain model Ive got a compass 66 but wouldnt buy another because it has different lights thats for sure For me something different from the norm livery wise would be the thing to get me to get my wallet out, but things like the cable thieves or drs 20 year livery wouldnt interest me as they are/will be short lived liveries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2015 I have to agree with Jim. If for example it was the Cable Thieves liveried 57307 this wouldn't interest me because the livery is no longer current. For me to buy the model it would have to be a current livery and something which is difficult to find and come across even as a resprayed model. For example I don't currently own any form of GBRF loco but if it was any of 66711, 66718 or 66721 I would no doubt purchase it because these are special, one off liveries which are rarely even resprayed because of how intricate they are. Personally I would like a DRS 20th Anniversary liveried 57307. Not sure if this would be possible though seen as it was only repainted/vinyled in mid July. I would also buy the Northern Belle liveried 57/3s 57305 and 57312, but as I mentioned before there is no mention of multiple locos and I wouldn't buy one without the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mevaman Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Only issue with a 57 is that there are none in the production schedule for early next year. If you look at the Bachmann website the current day models due are 08, 37, 47 and 66. Of course I may be completely wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2015 I believe there maybe a few Bachmann DRS liveried 37/4's becoming available soon..... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2015 I completely agree with your thinking but 57309 in DRS Compass and 57312 in VT livery have both just been released so there is a possibility that another 57/3 could have been produced alongside those or just after those. At the same time I do think it could be one of the three GBRF 66s as mentioned above just because all three are very recent repaints and are all special, unique and are rarely resprayed by anyone just because of how intricate the liveries are. I would have suggested 37401 in it's current look but I don't think that the livery is intricate enough. I think it's fairly simply. Other possibilities could be a Freightliner Powerhaul 08, Green Freightliner 47830 or any of the five GBRF/HNRC Class 47s although none of those liveries are particularly intricate and the five 47s have been repainted for several months now and I couldn't see those sparking an interest for Bachmann to produce them now. The Freightliner Powerhaul 08 and Green Freightliner 47830 are very recent repaints too, just within the last couple of months so I doubt that it would be either of those. So that pretty much rules all of those models/classes/liveries out of the equation. Back to the drawing board haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I would have suggested 37401 in it's current look but I don't think that the livery is intricate enough. I think it's fairly simply. While it fairly simple, it is not impossible to get incorrect. We were told that "The first livery sample has been received but unfortunately this fell short of expectations, hence why it has not been publicly shown." However, correctly so, no specifics are detailed for possibly giving the game away. So we have no idea what aspect fell short of the expectations, or to what degree. Therefore, it's still an open field and could well be 37401, or anything else suggested (or not). Quite a few minor details, some of which may not have been picked up...white lamp irons for example. Regards, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yes it still quite possibly could be 37401. I would be very happy about that if it was It was just my personal opinion that it might not be. Just pure speculation on my behalf as I am sure it is on everyone else's as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I have to agree with Jim. If for example it was the Cable Thieves liveried 57307 this wouldn't interest me because the livery is no longer current. For me to buy the model it would have to be a current livery and something which is difficult to find and come across even as a resprayed model. For example I don't currently own any form of GBRF loco but if it was any of 66711, 66718 or 66721 I would no doubt purchase it because these are special, one off liveries which are rarely even resprayed because of how intricate they are. Personally I would like a DRS 20th Anniversary liveried 57307. Not sure if this would be possible though seen as it was only repainted/vinyled in mid July. I would also buy the Northern Belle liveried 57/3s 57305 and 57312, but as I mentioned before there is no mention of multiple locos and I wouldn't buy one without the other. One of the problems is the time it takes to get the model released and that often puts the livery in jeopardy of being repainted, 57312 is a an example of this and seems a strange release, this has received a repaint, my question is will it sell in it's Virgin livery. In terms of the Class 66s, 66718, 720 and 721 have been in their liveries for a long time, hopefully they have read our thoughts on here. IMHO I think 66711 is probably to new to be released yet on a model.. a 57310 in the new DRS livery will be most welcome.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Pike Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Based on yesterdays surprise announcement from Hornby / Locomotion regarding "Harry Patch" , it could even be a loco / livery combination non of us are aware of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Based on yesterdays surprise announcement from Hornby / Locomotion regarding "Harry Patch" , it could even be a loco / livery combination non of us are aware of. Yes, now that one came out of the blue... I'm surprised all these people in the know didn't know !! Looks very nice... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I find it highly unlikely that it will be 37401. Large logo must be one of the most reproduced liveries that Bachmann has produced, I've got three of them myself. A ltd edt really needs to be of wider appeal and of something a bit more special. Don't be surprised, if it were to be a 37, that it could be based on the next release of 37/7 heavyweight examples or perhaps 37/5 if it's an easier enough job to put the die back in the mold that creates the body side window. That could open up a whole range of possibilities. 37515 in HNRC Orange anyone?? Also opens up the WCRC examples as well. Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2015 I'm certainly not ruling anything out because it could be something that hasn't even been mentioned by anyone in this thread so far. I mean take 57312 for example in the last four years it has worn three different liveries: VT, Network Rail and Northern Belle. It has been produced by Bachmann in the Network Rail livery first of all and more recently VT livery. This just shows that nowadays liveries are forever changing and that it could be a wide variety of models already mentioned on here or maybe one that hasn't been mentioned at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Has anybody said Colas 37 yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted November 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2015 Has anybody said Colas 37 yet? Bachmann have already announced one. 32-389. Most of the retailers have them on pre-order and the Bachmann website shows them as Nov/Dec delivery. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Banger Blue Posted November 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 8, 2015 Has anybody done a Europhoenix Class 37? Are these the ones going on lease to Rail Operations Group? https://flic.kr/p/rhAu1D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Has anybody done a Europhoenix Class 37? Are these the ones going on lease to Rail Operations Group? https://flic.kr/p/rhAu1D Thats a possibility ... that livery looks fantastic!! and there are other 37/7's due soon too so it would fit with adding onto the production run Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Has anybody done a Europhoenix Class 37? Are these the ones going on lease to Rail Operations Group? https://flic.kr/p/rhAu1D Would it include the extra socket (and mismatched yellow paint) that this loco has now received...? Having not run yet, it isn't if much use on a layout without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted November 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2015 Has anybody done a Europhoenix Class 37? Are these the ones going on lease to Rail Operations Group? https://flic.kr/p/rhAu1D I asked Railtec back in March about doing transfers of the logo as I fancied detailing and repainting my TTS 37, its on a waiting list of transfers to be done apparently Ironicaly having seen photos of the loco in Rail Express. Lovely looking loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2015 37884 now wears a grey Rail Operations Group livery and it previously wore Europhoenix livery. If my memory serves me right it never ran in Europhoenix livery and was just sat at Barrow Hill wearing it. I maybe wrong though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 37884 now wears a grey Rail Operations Group livery and it previously wore Europhoenix livery. Technically, it's carrying both, the ROG lettering being a recent addition. It still has the silly yellow panel too. Anyway, this is all academic- if you take the statement that the livery on the mock up needed redoing before approval, it is probably quite complex, such as the new DRS livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2015 Yes I completely agree with you there. I'm thinking a standard Revised DRS 57/3 or 57307 in the Revised 20th Anniversary livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2015 All this speculation has of course been fun, but to be honest it's getting a bit boring now as pretty much all the options seem to have been covered; repeatedly. I'm almost getting to the point where I cease to care what it is. I appreciate Rail Express expected to have announced the loco by now but decided not to because of the paint issues, but I for one am no longer on tenterhooks waiting to hear what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Has anybody mentioned this yet? (Courtesy of the New Cross Exhibition - Ebsworth Street) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2015 Yes it has been mentioned but as pointed out its an obsolete livery now, 57307 is in the '20th anniversary' livery now One i dont think has been mentioned is 66709 in 'msc' livery with the ship on the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted November 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2015 Just thought of another possibility... I saw 66528 in it's new Freightliner Powerhaul livery on Midland Road this morning. Bachmann are releasing a standard Powerhaul 66416 early next year so this could be an opportunity to produce 528 complete with etched nameplates. After all 528 is the first of the heavy haul FL 66s to be repainted and has been named. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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