jonny777 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Slightly O/T because I know where this is - the location is on the signal box name board. However I don't know what train it is. The lead loco is 44781 but I don't know the second number. On the face of it, the logical conclusion is that this is the LCGB tour of Aug 4th 1968 - Farewell To Steam Railtour. However, although that trip did pass Chinley, it came from the Edale direction and not Peak Forest, it had the head code 1Z74 and this is 1Z72, and it had an LCGB headboard (and for a time a wreath); therefore the logical conclusion has little going for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) Manchester Rail Travel Society/Severn Valley Railway Society 'North West Tour' on 27th April 1968 https://www.flickr.com/photos/71592768@N08/8161262684/in/photolist-RjRBk9-aG3ZE2-rFWLRd-kfPi9e-rpAJz2-69NbQZ-rpufXm-bVT69-drbB4A-GrwFjF-9FCHK3-fsh8sa-7FNoSL-dxomtV-273f85j-e5cfwj-kc1HJh-jy9Zu1-dNw767-7wT8LA-qARWt-hFpiuh-7perjY-dVfSo6-28UnRoE-DzMRoG-kfRLpb-2dwWGb5-dABnof-Nm2bAM-22uftAD-RbdLJm-dABnAy-2aqm2Cy-GdGdah-xbwDcn-GdGd9A-4c5EJ4-g2ypUX-2cdL72H-bkzRBf-4uKYBS-28THKCh-5c5cwc-4PAScp-LhdUha-e2BxQM-5c5bVt-LhdUdH-rtSvEh https://www.flickr.com/photos/71592768@N08/26543168759/in/photolist-RjRBk9-aG3ZE2-rFWLRd-kfPi9e-rpAJz2-69NbQZ-rpufXm-bVT69-drbB4A-GrwFjF-9FCHK3-fsh8sa-7FNoSL-dxomtV-273f85j-e5cfwj-kc1HJh-jy9Zu1-dNw767-7wT8LA-qARWt-hFpiuh-7perjY-dVfSo6-28UnRoE-DzMRoG-kfRLpb-2dwWGb5-dABnof-Nm2bAM-22uftAD-RbdLJm-dABnAy-2aqm2Cy-GdGdah-xbwDcn-GdGd9A-4c5EJ4-g2ypUX-2cdL72H-bkzRBf-4uKYBS-28THKCh-5c5cwc-4PAScp-LhdUha-e2BxQM-5c5bVt-LhdUdH-rtSvEh And another (says the reporting number was 1Z77): https://www.flickr.com/photos/60631240@N02/39044735605/in/photolist-273f85j-e5cfwj-kc1HJh-jy9Zu1-dNw767-7wT8LA-qARWt-hFpiuh-7perjY-dVfSo6-28UnRoE-DzMRoG-kfRLpb-2dwWGb5-dABnof-Nm2bAM-22uftAD-RbdLJm-dABnAy-2aqm2Cy-GdGdah-xbwDcn-GdGd9A-4c5EJ4-g2ypUX-2cdL72H-bkzRBf-4uKYBS-28THKCh-5c5cwc-4PAScp-LhdUha-e2BxQM-5c5bVt-LhdUdH-rtSvEh-rFwYrm-yi179M-xJpsK9-23xpvmr-xGgg39-xCpZTZ-xYUehV-BSdqx2-M4V3kc-tGXFis-Eb2FZ7-tH8jvz-rr8RVA-rz6yMY Edited March 1, 2019 by pH Add link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Thanks Ph, that explains why my search found nothing. The loco number is wrong on Six Bells Junction and my reading of the headcode was also wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Does anyone recognise this signalbox , and rather bleak location? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Tebay No.2 The base remains as a relay room for Carlisle PSB. It replaced an LNWR box which was in the immediate foreground at the end of the platform and it closed in 1973 Southbound express passing, the famous shed is to the left, Stainmore route to the right. I own the final signal box diagram from there. Edited to add a bit more info Edited March 3, 2019 by beast66606 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 Thanks Beast. All the other nearby photos to this one were in Greater Manchester and so my head was not considering anything further afield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2019 On 01/03/2019 at 12:46, The Stationmaster said: Very definitely Birmingham Snow Hill - the signal is the big giveaway. North end of the station and the train is on the Down Main Line, difficult to be precise about date but most likely post September 1960. Looks like after Great Charles St was widened, Lloyd House looks complete, and the pannier is lacking front number so i would guess 1964/5, although the panniers worked the Hockley transfers until some time in 1966 IIRC. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 I'm sure someone will recognise this location. It looks so fascinating with lines in many directions, but so disappointing that most of them appear disused and rusty; but this is 1967 and decay was everywhere. There appears to be an ex-GWR coach in the sidings. The loco is 45208 which was a Low Moor engine at this time. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) Due S of Bradford Exchange (later Interchange)? i.e. on the line to Low Moor. It looks steep enough for Bradford and the layout matches the map at http://www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php (need to zoom in as I can't directly link) That would tie in with the Low Moor loco. Can you read the mill name on the far right on the original? Edited March 4, 2019 by eastwestdivide 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted March 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2019 Looks like this location.. Bradford st Dunstans. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/thanoz/3153813039/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, eastwestdivide said: Due S of Bradford Exchange (later Interchange)? i.e. on the line to Low Moor. It looks steep enough for Bradford and the layout matches the map at http://www.railmaponline.com/UKIEMap.php (need to zoom in as I can't directly link) That would tie in with the Low Moor loco. Can you read the mill name on the far right on the original? Thanks eastwest. No, sadly the mill name is not quite readable on the original, because that is one of my first thoughts for location findings on these kinds of images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) Link to now and then map shot https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17&lat=53.7844&lon=-1.7484&layers=168&right=BingHyb Edit - according to the map the mill is "Lady Well Mill" Jim Edited March 4, 2019 by luckymucklebackit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Looks like this location.. Bradford st Dunstans. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/thanoz/3153813039/ Wow, thanks adb. The caption has some great info. The line curving under the bridge is the Queensbury route - (which explains why the rails are rusty) and the line curving right went to Laisterdyke. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=53.7865&lon=-1.7494&layers=10&right=11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 4, 2019 Author Share Posted March 4, 2019 Sorry Luckymucklebackit, we seem to have had the same concurrent thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
csiedmo Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 14 hours ago, jonny777 said: Wow, thanks adb. The caption has some great info. The line curving under the bridge is the Queensbury route - (which explains why the rails are rusty) and the line curving right went to Laisterdyke. https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=53.7865&lon=-1.7494&layers=10&right=11 Although not entirely disused as the Queensbury route was worked as far as City Road (goods) until 1972, making use of those lines from Laisterdyke. There are also carriage sidings in the St Dunstans loop in use at this time. I’m not sure when they disappeared. Imagine having the space to model that lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share Posted March 5, 2019 I would love to have the space to model a complex junction with underpasses and forests of semaphore signals. The Bog Junction/London Road Junction Carlisle is one that springs to mind. I would struggle to operate anything on my own, but that would not stop me giving it a try. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 8 hours ago, csiedmo said: Although not entirely disused as the Queensbury route was worked as far as City Road (goods) until 1972, making use of those lines from Laisterdyke. There are also carriage sidings in the St Dunstans loop in use at this time. I’m not sure when they disappeared. Imagine having the space to model that lot! You'd need a barn for the model .......... and the surrounding field(s) for innumerable fiddleyards ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted March 5, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Wickham Green said: You'd need a barn for the model .......... and the surrounding field(s) for innumerable fiddleyards ! And a dedicated team to, operate it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Try as I might, I just can't read the station signs on this slightly underexposed photo. It is a long name judging by the length of the signs, but although the buildings remind me of a few stops on the ECML I can't make further progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 To my eyes, it looks as though it might be Western, rather than Eastern, though I can't say why. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Fat Controller said: To my eyes, it looks as though it might be Western, rather than Eastern, though I can't say why. You may well be right, Brian. I just thought the station signs under the awnings were blue, but that maybe my eyesight. The running in board doesn't look blue - and the more I stare at it the more regularly it shouts out "Pangbourne". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted March 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2019 I agree about WR. There is a 3 car stop marker visible on the far platform. The building style is very GWR and at the left of the photo is what looks like a GWR nameboard post. I don’t think it’s Pangbourne as it looks like 2 islands rather than island and two side platforms. South of Tyseley possibly but I can’t get a name to match. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) I see what you mean about Pangbourne: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pangbourne-Railway-Station-Photo-Reading-Goring-Didcot-Line-GWR-32-/253054697976 the current station there only has two platforms I think, so they must have demolished/rebuilt the big building on the centre platform Also this one, with the tree on the platform: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pangbourne-Railway-Station-Photo-Reading-Goring-Didcot-Line-GWR-22-/252198738228 And the same bench(?), but now with corporate signage: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pangbourne-Railway-Station-Photo-Reading-Goring-Didcot-Line-GWR-17-/262175295142 Edited March 11, 2019 by eastwestdivide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted March 11, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2019 Does this help? Pangbourne Station, Snow, December 1962 by nashphoto, on Flickr 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Yes thanks. The part of the visible tree does look the same shape, and the telegraph pole (the one above the huts) does seem to have the same 'flag' arrangement. The large evergreen tree is absent, but might have been felled after 1962. That appears to be a big fall of snow; and was the start of the extreme winter; but it is good to see that trains are still running. Edited March 11, 2019 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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