Marshall5 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 03/12/2019 at 09:31, jonny777 said: This one is interesting. The demolition gangs have obviously been by, but the sleepers are all concrete but with holes to reduce weight/cost presumably. I am wondering if this might be part of the Nesscliffe/Maesbrook site, although as usual with high security facilities there is nothing marked on the OS maps of the era? The sleepers appear to be WW2 era MoD types as is the 75lb/yd flat-bottom rail. Ray. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium DLT Posted December 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2019 As others have thought, the Sentinel is at Criggion Quarry, on the branch off the Shropshire & Montgomeryshire Some more photos on John Turner's Flickr site here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/albums/72157624214785241/page4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Could this be Wrexham? I have scoured the ltd maps for locations, but the vast bulk of the building in the background is where I come unstuck. If there is a name on the building, I can't read it. The loco is 45419 which was at Chester late in its life, but before that was a Rugby loco. However, given the previous Stirling image, I have lost faith in the Shropshire/NE Wales area for locations. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, jonny777 said: Could this be Wrexham? I have scoured the ltd maps for locations, but the vast bulk of the building in the background is where I come unstuck. If there is a name on the building, I can't read it. The loco is 45419 which was at Chester late in its life, but before that was a Rugby loco. However, given the previous Stirling image, I have lost faith in the Shropshire/NE Wales area for locations. The signals appear to be ex-GWR lower quadrants. The building is pretty big; I'm trying to think what might be that size. Options might include a steel rolling mill, covered workshops in a shipyard or perhaps part of an aircraft factory. There is a logo on the side, which looks like a long series of arches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 I thought of Shotton, but the steelworks was on the opposite bank of the Dee to the station - which rules that out. Brymbo was on the top of a hill, and I have a photo in that area for comparison anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 5, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2019 Wrexham I would say although I'm not an expert on the GWR Northern Division. The signals and track layout fit but the goods shed isn't there so perhaps demolished by then?f Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 The big building was the Wrexham Larger Brewery, no longer there. Train is on the down main line to Chester. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 they look like windows rather than a name 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Merfyn Jones said: The big building was the Wrexham Larger Brewery, no longer there. Train is on the down main line to Chester. Thanks Merfyn, that is excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 By sheer coincidence, I have discovered that the photos may well be the work of Brian Cowlishaw. This is what remained of Kinnerley depot, at the junction of the Criggion branch, in the 1960s. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 This is a long shot. Could anyone identify this rural halt? I know there is not much to go on, but judging by other images it ought to be in West Wales and possibly on the Aberystwyth - Carmarthen route. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted December 8, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2019 Absolutely no idea of the location, but interesting track fastenings - steel sleepers perhaps? Maybe this might help with narrowing down the location. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 Thanks Ian. Sadly, I don't know if any of the West Wales branches had steel sleepers either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted December 8, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2019 Wouldn't like to say really, but obviously the prototype for many a bus shelter station in later years..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Flat bottom rail too. Suggesting the line (though not the halt!) was upgraded for heavy traffic, perhaps wartime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted December 8, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2019 Is it on the Shroppie again? Those fixings sort of remind me of steel sleepers that I think the WD had.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2019 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cruckton-Railway-Station-Photo-Edgebold-Ford-Crosgates-Shrewsbury-Line-1-/262480735999 Hmm Bullhead rail - platform railings - but so much else looks right.... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil Bullock said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cruckton-Railway-Station-Photo-Edgebold-Ford-Crosgates-Shrewsbury-Line-1-/262480735999 Hmm Bullhead rail - platform railings - but so much else looks right.... Don't think the platform brickwork is the same, but looks like it is on the same railway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Don't think the platform brickwork is the same, but looks like it is on the same railway. I can't see another station looking like it. As the picture posted had the track in quite good condition I wonder if the apparent difference in platform height is that for speed when the WD rebuilt that section c1941 they laid the track on top of the existing ballast thus raising the rail level? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: I can't see another station looking like it. As the picture posted had the track in quite good condition I wonder if the apparent difference in platform height is that for speed when the WD rebuilt that section c1941 they laid the track on top of the existing ballast thus raising the rail level? The general topography just looks right doesnt it! Like you for the locations to be the same I concluded that relaying had taken place - plus removal of other surplus fittings, although perhaps the station name board was removed to confuse any Fallschirmjager landing in the vicinity? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 hours ago, TheSignalEngineer said: I can't see another station looking like it. As the picture posted had the track in quite good condition I wonder if the apparent difference in platform height is that for speed when the WD rebuilt that section c1941 they laid the track on top of the existing ballast thus raising the rail level? You'd have to get up very early in the morning to convince me that was a different location. Your suggestions are very plausible 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 15 hours ago, Phil Bullock said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cruckton-Railway-Station-Photo-Edgebold-Ford-Crosgates-Shrewsbury-Line-1-/262480735999 Hmm Bullhead rail - platform railings - but so much else looks right.... Thanks very much Phil. An excellent piece of detective work. No wonder I was getting nowhere with the West Wales halts. The slightly leaning telegraph pole by the platform edge, and the curve away into the distance seem to be identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 9, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2019 Welcome ... team effort I think..., 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Here is my next mystery, but maybe easy to others (hopefully). There appear to be ex-LNER and LMS locos on the left, but maybe an ex-GWR loco on the passenger train. The advert for the Hastings and Thanet Building Society just adds to my confusion, although I realise some companies had ads somewhat outside their branch area at times. Sorry that I can't improve the exposure. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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