eastwestdivide Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, jonny777 said: In the foreground appears to be a suburban DMU with a toilet in one of the vehicles (probably a trailer composite). Mk1 suburban coaches is another possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) Looks a bit like the north end of Aylesbury. (Edit: old-maps seems to confirm) Signalling on the GW/GC Jt was a joint responsibility. So what there was by way of signals would depend on which year it was installed. Seems an odd way of working to me. Edited August 21, 2020 by Joseph_Pestell Add Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 The problem with Aylesbury as my reading of the maps are concerned, is that the north end should have a footbridge between the platforms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 This is an interesting photo. An exhibition with 71000 and a Hymek. My question is why would BR go to the trouble of exhibiting a large steam locomotive which would be withdrawn in less than 12 months? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, jonny777 said: The problem with Aylesbury as my reading of the maps are concerned, is that the north end should have a footbridge between the platforms. Looking at the map linked below, the track layout seems to match if the photographer is standing on the footbridge leading from "Friarage Path", just north of the platforms which have a separate footbridge. Aylesbury was purely Metropolitan with GC running powers I believe, so presumably the joint signaling arrangements didn't apply. https://maps.nls.uk/view/104182214 Edited August 21, 2020 by Edwin_m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Steve Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, jonny777 said: This is an interesting photo. An exhibition with 71000 and a Hymek. My question is why would BR go to the trouble of exhibiting a large steam locomotive which would be withdrawn in less than 12 months? Suspect this is the Marylebone parcels depot open day 11-14 May 1961, details at : http://www.bropendays.co.uk/marylebone1961.html At least the 'Duke' was still in service at the time unlike the two Bulleid 'West Country' Pacifics that were en-route for scrapping in South Wales but were diverted to star in the open day at Bristol Bath Road depot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/93122458@N08/8469264292/in/pool-hampshire-railways 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, SP Steve said: Suspect this is the Marylebone parcels depot open day 11-14 May 1961, details at : http://www.bropendays.co.uk/marylebone1961.html At least the 'Duke' was still in service at the time unlike the two Bulleid 'West Country' Pacifics that were en-route for scrapping in South Wales but were diverted to star in the open day at Bristol Bath Road depot: https://www.flickr.com/photos/93122458@N08/8469264292/in/pool-hampshire-railways A slight exaggeration. 34013 and 34100 did not *star* at the Open Day. I think 46201, 7029 and 7808 were considered the stars of that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Edwin_m said: Looking at the map linked below, the track layout seems to match if the photographer is standing on the footbridge leading from "Friarage Path", just north of the platforms which have a separate footbridge. Aylesbury was purely Metropolitan with GC running powers I believe, so presumably the joint signaling arrangements didn't apply. https://maps.nls.uk/view/104182214 IIRC Aylesbury was originally a broad gauge GW station on the "Wycombe Railway" Edit Opened 1863 by Wycombe Railway, 1867 GW, 1892/3 Met/GW joint After the GC arrived the Met lines outside the GW/Met joint station confines became Met/GC jt. Edited August 21, 2020 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Edwin_m said: Looking at the map linked below, the track layout seems to match if the photographer is standing on the footbridge leading from "Friarage Path", just north of the platforms which have a separate footbridge. Aylesbury was purely Metropolitan with GC running powers I believe, so presumably the joint signaling arrangements didn't apply. https://maps.nls.uk/view/104182214 The signal box by the goods shed fits too. The signals on the either side of the overbridge are also visible. The ground signals on the left look to be LNER and follow the practice of being side by side while the one on the right looks to be LMR. Edited August 21, 2020 by beast66606 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted August 21, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2020 61077_Aylesbury_3-51 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Hasn't changed a bit ! ........ 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2020 13 hours ago, melmerby said: IIRC Aylesbury was originally a broad gauge GW station on the "Wycombe Railway" Edit Opened 1863 by Wycombe Railway, 1867 GW, 1892/3 Met/GW joint After the GC arrived the Met lines outside the GW/Met joint station confines became Met/GC jt. Agree. This RCH map shows the pwneship after the opening of the GCR London Extension - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Aylesbury%2C_High_Wycombe%2C_Princes_Risboro%2C_Quainton_Road_%26_Verney_Ashendon_RJD_146.jpg The BR period 'ownership' was confusing to say the least as the southern end of the GCR was at various times under the control of three different Regions - the Eastern (briefly), then the Western (briefly the first time round), then the LMR for a long while, and finally back to the Western until sectorisation when it went to NSE. In signalling terms there were very few signs of the first Western period of ownership about from one or two ground discs so visible signalling was basically LNER or LM Region. The GW & GC Joint Line was a bit different - signalling had over the years involved both the LNER and the GWR and the line operated under Joint Committee Rules & Regulations. Following nationalisation the Joint Line went to WR management subsequently transferring in the late 1960s to the LMR and finally back to WR operational management in late 1987. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Thanks everyone. Aylesbury it is; which explains the presence of a 115 DMU and the TCL. The strange thing is that I visited Aylesbury station a few times in the early 1970s but didn't recognise it at all from the photo (or the Robert Carroll one TBH). Everything there just looks so rural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted August 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, jonny777 said: The problem with Aylesbury as my reading of the maps are concerned, is that the north end should have a footbridge between the platforms. Where do you think the photographer is standing? Edit: Sorry, Edwin has already remarked upon this. Edited August 22, 2020 by Joseph_Pestell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 I came across this image in a negative strip I was scanning. Not in the UK obviously, but are there some European experts out there who can fill in some vital details on this rother grainy photo, please? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 4, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) The loco is an FS class 735, 100 built by ALCO in 1917 and 300 from Montreal loco in 1919, so most likely you’re in Italy. The surroundings suggest a repair shop rather than a running shed, otherwise? would that be a weighbridge the lorry is standing on? Edited September 4, 2020 by Northroader 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 Is that lettering beside the lorry cab? If so, is it legible on your original? And is that electrification wiring in the foreground? Although that wouldn't narrow it down much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted September 5, 2020 Author Share Posted September 5, 2020 No, the lettering is not readable when the image is expanded. Another photo appeared on the same strip, and might be nearby to the first one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl Tooley Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Northroader said: would that be a weighbridge the lorry is standing on? If I had to take a wild guess, I would say that the lorry is also a rail vehicle, and the structure in front of it, its refuelling point. D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2020 The other picture is a class 851 0-6-0T, 210 of these built 1898-1918, becoming one of the standard shunting engines found all over the system. Here it’s acting as a carriage pilot. There’s a neat row of starting signals, is the place a terminus?The nearest carriage, possibly the one tone Castanato with an aluminium roof introduced 1961. The carriages further back are the two tone Castanato / Isabella scheme 1936 -1980. Theres a lot of knitting up above, but the complication looks due to a scissors crossing underneath, and it’s standard 3000 volts, not three phase, so it still could be pretty well anywhere, until you can match the background. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted September 5, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Darryl Tooley said: If I had to take a wild guess, I would say that the lorry is also a rail vehicle, and the structure in front of it, its refuelling point. D I agree, a rail-mounted lorry A thread about such things is here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=152720&hilit=vehicles+on+rails Edited September 5, 2020 by DLT 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I’m guessing that the photos date from the 1960s, as both the 735 and 851 classes barely survived into the ‘seventies. Apart from some 735s sold into industrial service, the last use of the class by FS seems to have been based on Rimini, and from there to Ravenna. From what I remember, examples of the 735 played a starring role in “Von Ryan’s Express”, outshining that well-known railway modeller, Frank Sinatra. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted September 6, 2020 Author Share Posted September 6, 2020 Back to the UK with this one, but I still don't recognise the location. There seems to be a strange platform arrangement but the track has been removed. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabato Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Well, I've just worked out the loco's a Western, so that's a start. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Is it Chippenham? I've only been there once but the track missing from the island platform is in my memory. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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