pH Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 8 hours ago, LMS2968 said: That's the first time I've seen a 5X with a self-weighing tender. 41 minutes ago, pH said: Exactly what I was going to say! Just to prove that neither your memory nor mine is what it used to be, read this topic, starting at this post ! https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/55652-stanier-self-weighing-tender-information/&do=findComment&comment=1409480 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Well, it was six years ago, and yesterday can be a blur! But at least, I'm consistent! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 Are these two taken at the same station? I only ask this because the totem name on the Britannia image looks to have fewer letters than the one on the other image. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2020 Definitely the same place: too many identical cracks in the paving slabs on the ramp. Where, possibly Taplow, but I’m not too familiar with the Birmingham area 4 track so could be one of those. Paul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Definitely the same place but not the same time. Look at the cracks in the paving slabs in the foreground - some are identical but there are a few more on the second photo. As it's unlikely they would replace some but not all of them, the second one is almost certainly later. I think the shrub on the right is also smaller in the second photo, suggesting it may have died back or been trimmed, but difficult to tell for certain as the viewpoint is slightly lower (look at the relationship of the white sign to the footbridge). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Goring and Streatley, I would say, based on the distinctive footbridge. https://www.jbarchive.co.uk/bk-654---middlesex-yeomanry-goring--streatley-railway-station-berkshire-1908-2229-p.asp Edited March 22, 2020 by Andy Kirkham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) The second photo with 4953 has given me a sudden urge to dig out all of my Bradford Barton GW albums.... Way back in June 2012 while everyone else was indoors watching the London Olympics I was out and about doing a 'photo survey' of the Thames Valley area including G&S, here's the footbridge.... Edited March 22, 2020 by Rugd1022 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2020 Trains on the down main at Twyford. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, 5BarVT said: Definitely the same place: too many identical cracks in the paving slabs on the ramp. Paul. Just so everyone has the same info as I have (which is why I asked the question in the first place), here are blow-ups of the platform lamp posts with their totems. Would you say the two names are the same or different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2020 I wonder whether it could be "Goring" in one and "Goring and Streatley" in the other, although Cobb's atlas shows that name change occurring in 1908. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted March 22, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Northroader said: Trains on the down main at Twyford. Yes the footbridge at Twyford looks similar (the best view I could find), but Cobb doesn't show any name changes. However I'm sure The Stationmaster will be able to clarify everything. https://www.jbarchive.co.uk/bk-1396---twyford-railway-station-berkshire-58333-p.asp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Just a thought, but did Twyford totem get changed to Twyford for Henley? Edited March 23, 2020 by eastglosmog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, eastglosmog said: Just a thought, but did Twyford totem get changed to Twyford for Henley? I can't recall ever seeing a totem from any station with this format of wording, only running-in boards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 The first totem has about the right number of letters for Twyford and the second letter looks more "blobby" so could be a W. Stretching the imagination, can I see opening and closing brackets on the second one? If it was "for Henley" then the words would have had to be in small type one above the other. Looks like someone's corrected the leaning lamppost as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 5BarVT Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 I’m happy to stand with those suggesting Twyford. The second photo clearly shows the curve in the Main lines (Reliefs were straight). The road rising towards the bridge to the right of the station fits the geography and (surprise, surprise), for me, the signalling is the decider. The abutment of the bridge is painted white to improve sighting of the Up Main signal. Twyford East Up Main Home was right hand mounted due to the curve in the platforms. Paul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 55 minutes ago, Edwin_m said: ..................... Looks like someone's corrected the leaning lamppost as well. I think that's just lens distortion, unless they fixed all those leaning window frames in the footbridge as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, jonny777 said: Are these two taken at the same station? I only ask this because the totem name on the Britannia image looks to have fewer letters than the one on the other image. Yes they are. in both cases the trains are passing Twyford on the Down Main Line. The picture of the Brit was definitely taken in the afternoon as it is lit from the south, maybe it clouded over for the 'Hall' ? 3 hours ago, 5BarVT said: I’m happy to stand with those suggesting Twyford. The second photo clearly shows the curve in the Main lines (Reliefs were straight). The road rising towards the bridge to the right of the station fits the geography and (surprise, surprise), for me, the signalling is the decider. The abutment of the bridge is painted white to improve sighting of the Up Main signal. Twyford East Up Main Home was right hand mounted due to the curve in the platforms. Paul. And that patch of white is still there, nearly 60 years after the signal was removed and the upper part of the bridge over the Main Lines was rebuilt. The much older arch over the Relief Lines still survives - into the age of 25kv ohle. 9and teh white patch on it for Twyford East's Up Relief Home Signals also survives - just. 3 hours ago, eastglosmog said: Just a thought, but did Twyford totem get changed to Twyford for Henley? No, the totems just said 'Twyford'. 'Change for Henley' was only on the running-in boards. Edited March 23, 2020 by The Stationmaster 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Ok. Thanks very much all. Twyford it is. I wonder if the totem on the second image has suffered from camera shake, which makes each letter appear 'double' and adds to the illusion of a longer station name? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 Some nice history as well. Twyford footbridge was 'renewed' several years ago (to electrification clearances) and Goring's was replaced for electrification. The Twyford one is on the original site but the Goring one is at the opposite (eastern) end of the buildings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 hours ago, jonny777 said: Ok. Thanks very much all. Twyford it is. I wonder if the totem on the second image has suffered from camera shake, which makes each letter appear 'double' and adds to the illusion of a longer station name? I don't think it's camera shake as that would also affect the footbridge windows. However there is some kind of smudge below the canopy to the right of the totem, so possibly a lens defect? If we accept the lean of the lamp post and footbridge windows being due to lens defect, that also suggests they were taken with different lenses. And as the view is similar they were probably taken on different occasions otherwise the same lens would have been used. This supports the evidence of the extra paving cracks and reduction in shrubbery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 23, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23, 2020 Plenty of later pictures of Twyford on Pages 1 & 2 of my thread here - after MAS and the installation of concrete lamp posts but you can see the running-in boards. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 I am a bit confused by this photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted March 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2020 Kingswear? 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 Ah yes - thanks, Metr0land. The 33 threw me, and I was trying to work out if it was somewhere along the Cornish coast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 There must have been a form of diesel gala on the P&D at some time in the past, as I have just scanned this photo. The locos are not ones I would immediately associate with Kingswear. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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