RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2018 As we don't have a "plan b", Bachmann have got us by the short and curlies in the nicest possible way. I won't be cancelling my order! Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2018 As we don't have a "plan b", Bachmann have got us by the short and curlies in the nicest possible way. I won't be cancelling my order! Mike. What it boils down to is do you really want a very highly detailed model of a breakdown crane - 'yes' or 'no'? Is it the right one for your modelling era/area of interest - 'yes' or 'n'? and is it the only one likely to be coming to your favourite retailer where you have placed your pre-order - 'yes' or 'no'? If you can tick all the yes boxes (like me) then all I/we have t do is wait because whatever else happens I have a very strong feeling it is likely to remain the only 'full fat' detailed 4mm scale r-t-r breakdown crane we are likely to see. My pre-order remains in place, very firmly in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I waited more than 5 years for my H2, what is an extra 10 months for a crane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 What it boils down to is do you really want a very highly detailed model of a breakdown crane - 'yes' or 'no'? Is it the right one for your modelling era/area of interest - 'yes' or 'n'? and is it the only one likely to be coming to your favourite retailer where you have placed your pre-order - 'yes' or 'no'? If you can tick all the yes boxes (like me) then all I/we have t do is wait because whatever else happens I have a very strong feeling it is likely to remain the only 'full fat' detailed 4mm scale r-t-r breakdown crane we are likely to see. My pre-order remains in place, very firmly in place. Totally agree with this. I pondered the wild boar kit but decided to wait and see any feedback. It turned out a fantastic kit apparently but whilst I waited Bachmann made their announcement and I have diverted my kit building to building the remainder of the breakdown train. I rarely preorder but this was a nailed on certainty and am keeping my preorder firmly in place. Bachmann can take as long as they like as it will give the time to build my mess and tool van. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 ... I'd like one, I guess it just depends if there's anything else I want more when it is finally released... The competitive landscape at the time of release will decide for me too. However fine it may be, there's a zillion alternative items I would prefer in RTR, a list that starts with LMS design general merchandise opens and vans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I guess the fustration (or rather mine) is that in Jan we saw full tooled, merely awaiting decoration sign off, samples of the crane. This sets exectations. I'll be waiting, and have plenty else to play with, but it is that disappointment that the clock has been reset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted November 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2018 I guess the fustration (or rather mine) is that in Jan we saw full tooled, merely awaiting decoration sign off, samples of the crane. This sets exectations. I'll be waiting, and have plenty else to play with, but it is that disappointment that the clock has been reset. It was at Warley a year ago... looked lovely and I pre-ordered having seen it. I can wait, but not without disappointment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 What it boils down to is do you really want a very highly detailed model of a breakdown crane - 'yes' or 'no'? Is it the right one for your modelling era/area of interest - 'yes' or 'n'? and is it the only one likely to be coming to your favourite retailer where you have placed your pre-order - 'yes' or 'no'? If you can tick all the yes boxes (like me) then all I/we have t do is wait because whatever else happens I have a very strong feeling it is likely to remain the only 'full fat' detailed 4mm scale r-t-r breakdown crane we are likely to see. My pre-order remains in place, very firmly in place. Spot on. Members just need to factor in another point - Do you think you'll still be alive and kicking a year from now? If that is looking dubious, make hay with the Hattons sale and go out surrounded by boxes, including one rather big one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Since there's nout much from Hornby 2019 I want other than a Terrier , and I doubt Bachmann will announce all that much for 2019, I've taken the plunge and pre ordered an SR black one, I don't think I'll regret it. What's £212 in the rest of my life? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted January 14, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 14, 2019 Delivery 3rd quarter this year apparenlty. Pullet wheels have been upgraded from moulded to turned as this lets the cords run more smoothly. There's also had to be developent on the packing as these need to be transported under tension if the new owner isn't going to have re-stringing job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Really looking forward to it now https://www.hattons.co.uk/107213/Bachmann_Branchline_38_800_45_ton_Ransomes_and_Rapier_crane_in_SR_black/StockDetail.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2019 Pictures supplied to me, copyright and courtesy of Bachmann 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Pictures supplied to me, copyright and courtesy of Bachmann 38-800.jpg 38-802.jpg 38-803.jpg Wow! Just WOW!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 BR Black for me. I've just started filling a new coffee jar to pay for it. At £1 a week, I reckon I should have enough when it arrives............ John Showing at Hattons as expected in stock October - November this year. By my calculation, you should have precisely sufficient during that window! https://www.hattons.co.uk/107216/Bachmann_Branchline_38_803_45_ton_Ransomes_and_Rapier_crane_in_BR_gulf_red/StockDetail.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 15, 2019 Definitely a gorgeous looking model and yes its desirable . Looking at it has me salivating . But then put sensible hat on . What would I do with it ? On the layout it would take up siding space , so its going to end up staying in its box seldom used . For £212 discounted really head rules over heart! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Definitely a gorgeous looking model and yes its desirable . Looking at it has me salivating . But then put sensible hat on . What would I do with it ? On the layout it would take up siding space , so its going to end up staying in its box seldom used . For £212 discounted really head rules over heart! I'm similarly struggling, but when the only things in RTR that are realistically going to tempt me have yet to be announced by any manufacturer (Class 100, Sturgeon, 13T Medfit, 06, Fell), with no sign of ever being produced, then I think I could prudently set the funds aside for an NER one. Maybe.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Pictures supplied to me, copyright and courtesy of Bachmann 38-800.jpg 38-802.jpg 38-803.jpg I am concerned about the red used on the red one. Hattons describe it as Gulf red, and the photo with a rather dull finish suggests that is a reasonable description. BUT it should be red enamel. A much brighter colour also used on all of the carriages that accompanied the crane - to be finished with a varnish and also ex freight stock which was the same without varnish. Writing is yellow. Look at this collection https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stewartlanecrane which shows how bright the colour was, some years after the last application. Peter Tatlow has described the liveries used on BR cranes in detail All in the HMRS Journal volume 21 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 1 The Black Era part 5 page 131 - 134 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 2 The Red Era part 6 page 174 - 180 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 3 The Yellow Era part 7 page 210 - 214 Paul Edited January 15, 2019 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I am concerned about the red used on the red one. Hattons describe it as Gulf red, and the photo with a rather dull finish suggests that is a reasonable description. BUT it should be red enamel. A much brighter colour also used on all of the carriages that accompanied the crane - to be finished with a varnish and also ex freight stock which was the same without varnish. Writing is yellow. Look at this collection https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stewartlanecrane which shows how bright the colour was, some years after the last application. Peter Tatlow has described the liveries used on BR cranes in detail All in the HMRS Journal volume 21 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 1 The Black Era part 5 page 131 - 134 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 2 The Red Era part 6 page 174 - 180 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 3 The Yellow Era part 7 page 210 - 214 Paul Difficult to tell colours on Bachmann's catalogue photos. The pictures you link to also show significant variation in colour based on light conditions and camera settings etc. But obviously NOW is the time to tell Bachmann, before the thing goes into production! Better they double check now than after a batch of several thousand have been made! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2019 Still having one but boy today I am very happy it's not coming out just yet! New Duchess of montrose winging it's way to me! And just spent £550 on a Alam system and two new tyres for my SV650S! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2019 I am concerned about the red used on the red one. Hattons describe it as Gulf red, and the photo with a rather dull finish suggests that is a reasonable description. BUT it should be red enamel. A much brighter colour also used on all of the carriages that accompanied the crane - to be finished with a varnish and also ex freight stock which was the same without varnish. Writing is yellow. Look at this collection https://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/stewartlanecrane which shows how bright the colour was, some years after the last application. Peter Tatlow has described the liveries used on BR cranes in detail All in the HMRS Journal volume 21 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 1 The Black Era part 5 page 131 - 134 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 2 The Red Era part 6 page 174 - 180 BR Breakdow Crane Liveries - Part 3 The Yellow Era part 7 page 210 - 214 Paul Hi Paul I have taken the liberty of passing your comments and evidence to the relevant members of the Bachmann team. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 15, 2019 Hi Paul I have taken the liberty of passing your comments and evidence to the relevant members of the Bachmann team. Muz going on a picture you haven't included was the Western one in grey or black? If it's BR period it should be black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Hi Paul I have taken the liberty of passing your comments and evidence to the relevant members of the Bachmann team. There was no need, I have already done so . It appears to be Hattons that have invented this description of the colour. Paul Edited January 15, 2019 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Turpin Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Definitely a gorgeous looking model and yes its desirable . Looking at it has me salivating . But then put sensible hat on . What would I do with it ? On the layout it would take up siding space , so its going to end up staying in its box seldom used . For £212 discounted really head rules over heart! Really agreeing here. That does look amazing, but with quality and prices both rising steeply, you have really got to want one to commit yourself: I think the days of the casual impulse purchase may well be over. However, when something as good as this does hit the spot for you, I'm sure you'd afford it without many regrets. Edited January 15, 2019 by Dick Turpin 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Muz going on a picture you haven't included was the Western one in grey or black? If it's BR period it should be black. The pictures are on the Bachmman website now. There are four versions: BR red, BR black, SR grey and GWR grey. https://www.Bachmann.co.uk/?s=ransomes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted January 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) There was no need, I have already done so . It appears to be Hattons that have invented this description of the colour. Paul Thanks Paul Better they get the information twice than not at all. After all we both have the best intentions at heart. Edited January 16, 2019 by Graham_Muz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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