RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, johnhutnick said: Can anyone please tell me if the Peckett has been offered in GWR. I may not have seen all the liveries. No it hasn’t but Hattons do their Barclay 0.4.0 in GWR. https://www.hattons.co.uk/312303/hattons_originals_h4_ab14_002_andrew_barclay_0_4_0st_14_2047_705_in_gwr_green_with_shirtbutton_roundel/stockdetail.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhutnick Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Thanks. I bought one GWR Barclay. Now why wouldn't Hornby offer Great Western? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, johnhutnick said: Thanks. I bought one GWR Barclay. Now why wouldn't Hornby offer Great Western? They could be waiting for an appropriate moment to announce one. Have you tried asking them if they're going to do one? There'll probably be many other takers for it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSG Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Did the GWR ever operate a Peckett W4? If they did, it can't have been particularly widespread, I would have thought. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzer models Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, MarkSG said: Did the GWR ever operate a Peckett W4? If they did, it can't have been particularly widespread, I would have thought. GWR had them from the Swansea Harbour Trust works No 521, 1053, 1105, 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, mozzer models said: GWR had them from the Swansea Harbour Trust works No 521, 1053, 1105, Yes but... There were actually a total 7 Pecketts inherited by the GWR from the SWT and another 4 from Powlesand & Mason, although I don't think that the latter were W4s. Nor were all of the SWT ones for that matter, but those which were had higher running plates than the Hornby version [flush with the top of the buffer-beam] and "fully-round" cabs rather than the open back with two-part screen produced by Hornby. Depending upon philosophy this may not be a deal breaker. Despite suffering both those differences and an eccentric dome I've found that the MSC one from the first batch scrubbs up very nicely as the one inherited by the G&SWR. I know its not quite right, but I can live with that because it looks the part and it does for me. The same could be done to turn a green Peckett into a GWR one with the right paint, transfers and an elastic conscience but Hornby won't do it because their version of the W4 never ran in GWR livery. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhutnick Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I am in the US, so my viewpoint may be different that many here who are more expert than me. Google "Swansea harbor trust locomotive photos". You will find many other photos that look like this. Now some will say that this is not the same model as the Hornby Peckett. Or say that these were only at Swansea. They can complain here and not buy it. I would think that a lot of modellers would be happy to buy one. Great Western sells. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hornby may well do fictious liveries eventually but as they have prototypical liveries to work through that sell well that seems to be their focus for now. Fictious ones may well be used as a pickup if the sales start to flag but so far you rarely see these on the shelves for more than a couple of months 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Caledonian said: The same could be done to turn a green Peckett into a GWR one with the right paint, transfers and an elastic conscience but Hornby won't do it because their version of the W4 never ran in GWR livery. I am torn between my usual leanings: 1. I want to see more accurate small stuff; 2....but I'm willing to compromise... 3. ...and I'd like to see higher-standard freelance if I can't get exactly what I want. At worst, a good-running mechanism (within sanity) will always be of use. Noting johnhutnick above, I'd hope Hornby would go ahead with a GWR-liveried version. I'd prefer new tooling, but I'd expect it to sell if just re-liveried (especially if - get this - in a hi-spec train set, properly marketed). Alternatively, if they thought it worthwhile promotion, they could pay money for a preserved example to be repainted temporarily, and it would be "accurate". ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2020 Hornby may well do fictious liveries eventually but as they have prototypical liveries to work through that sell well that seems to be their focus for now. Fictious ones may well be used as a pickup if the sales start to flag but so far you rarely see these on the shelves for more than a couple of months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Dickerson said: I am torn between my usual leanings: 1. I want to see more accurate small stuff; 2....but I'm willing to compromise... 3. ...and I'd like to see higher-standard freelance if I can't get exactly what I want. At worst, a good-running mechanism (within sanity) will always be of use. Its not just the paint job. As I pointed out there are significant differences between the Hornby version and those under discussion. Converting one, or even ignoring those differences you can live with is one thing, and as I've cheerfully admitted, a road I'm happy to follow myself, but that is not the same as expecting Hornby to place a fictitious livery on a loco. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dickerson Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Perhaps. But it's not something their ankle-biting competitors are bothered with, is it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 15, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2020 10 hours ago, MarkSG said: Did the GWR ever operate a Peckett W4? If they did, it can't have been particularly widespread, I would have thought. No indeed. All the Pecketts that came to the Great Western were standard gauge... 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) On 15/02/2020 at 12:54, MarkSG said: Did the GWR ever operate a Peckett W4? If they did, it can't have been particularly widespread, I would have thought. 17 hours ago, Compound2632 said: No indeed. All the Pecketts that came to the Great Western were standard gauge... i even found a response in a GWR uniform, with a hairstyle with matching lining Edited February 16, 2020 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted February 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, adb968008 said: i even found a response in a GWR uniform, with a hairstyle with matching lining I'm glad you were amused by my little witticism - I sometimes can't help myself. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 The GWR* W4 is available from CSP Models. As discussed earlier in the thread it bears very little resemblance to the Hornby model. It's a Peckett, but that's it. The other GWR Peckett's weren't W4s. http://cspmodels.com/abante/index.php?rt=product/product&manufacturer_id=21&product_id=244 *BR really as it wasn't acquired until 1948 and never carried GWR livery. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted February 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2020 News this afternoon from Rails on the delivery of R3680 Charity Colliery "Forest No. 1": 'Due in stock between now and the 8th March' which is pleasing as Charity Colliery was near Bedworth, on the Warwickshire coalfield, and my old stomping ground https://www.ourwarwickshire.org.uk/content/catalogue_her/site-of-bedworth-charity-colliery so I'm going to indulge in acquiring another Peckett! cheers, Keith 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coline33 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Received PLA 74 last week and it has proved to be the quietest and slowest loco I have. Well done Hornby. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1722 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Question regarding the PLA Peckett. Does anyone know which colour it is? I'm wondering if Humbrol 15 (Midnight Blue) would be a good match? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted February 29, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, 1722 said: Question regarding the PLA Peckett. Does anyone know which colour it is? I'm wondering if Humbrol 15 (Midnight Blue) would be a good match? Hi Chris, I've used Hunbrol 25 - Matt Blue in the past. However, if comparing it to the Hornby PLA Blue then either the Hoirny colour is too dark or the Humbrol 25 is too light. Thanks Phil H 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On 19/02/2020 at 19:37, tractionman said: News this afternoon from Rails on the delivery of R3680 Charity Colliery "Forest No. 1": 'Due in stock between now and the 8th March' which is pleasing as Charity Colliery was near Bedworth, on the Warwickshire coalfield, and my old stomping ground https://www.ourwarwickshire.org.uk/content/catalogue_her/site-of-bedworth-charity-colliery so I'm going to indulge in acquiring another Peckett! cheers, Keith Now in stock at Hornby Charity Colliery , hopefully next week at Hattons, have one in pre order for over a year now. So we will see it soon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 A short running session featuring the new Hornby R3680 - Peckett W4 0-4-0ST - "Forest No.1" in smart lined green, on Compton Quay my 00 Gauge Dockside Micro Layout. In this video we see the Peckett hard at work shunting a selection of wagons around the Quayside Warehouses. Hope you enjoy! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 1, 2020 Cracking video, Callum. I must admit I am tempted by one of these for Sheep Dip............but I have three already...Can you have too many Pecketts ? Rob. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2020 Simply apply rule one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Islesy Posted April 1, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2020 25 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Cracking video, Callum. I must admit I am tempted by one of these for Sheep Dip............but I have three already...Can you have too many Pecketts ? Rob. No, never - buy more.... 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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