RMweb Premium MPR Posted October 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2015 The day of high-fidelity industrial locomotives is officially on the way. I think this opens lots of opportunities for more industrial workings on steam-era layouts in addition to more bucolic branch lines. More than that, I'd say. Industrial steam on blue-diesel era layouts too! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I can see preservation layouts finding a use in the Pecketts too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Yes please Chris. Though as Porcy says, wheels might be an issue - Pecketts were quite distinctive in style. Adam If there is sufficient demand Ultrascale might be interested as might Alan Gibson, plus there are a number of 3D printers who might do centres assuming rims were available. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frappington Jct Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I can see preservation layouts finding a use in the Pecketts too... Or maybe layouts being run in preservation guises to accommodate a peckett! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Synch Posted October 2, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2015 I can't resist not suggesting this, the W4 inherited by the Glasgow and South Western Railway in 1919, GSWR lined green and LMS plain black maybe? 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted October 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2015 I can see preservation layouts finding a use in the Pecketts too... A Peckett, a single Mk I looming over it, a yard or two of track and a short, obviously new platform and you've got most 1970s preservation startups to a tee. Actually, it would make a perfect trainset for nostalgic 40-somethings getting back into the Hobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 . As Ozexpatriate suggested for a livery - "deep grime" For the experts, what is the brassworks (???) hanging off the back of the chimney ? (Thanks) . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 While I did personally hope that this model would be the SHT/P&M Pecketts used by the GWR, I'm not losing hope. I'm sure that once the model comes out, someone who knows their stuff will do a 3D mould or resin kit that will fit the Hornby chassis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'd like a W6 in green About half way down the page. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/77153-69843s-cad3d-fiddlings/page-6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 . As Ozexpatriate suggested for a livery - "deep grime" For the experts, what is the brassworks (???) hanging off the back of the chimney ? (Thanks) . It's the displacement lubricator for the regulator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilwell Park Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Hi. Although smaller than the GWR Pecketts inherited from SHT/P&M it would appear to be ok as BR No 1 Hercules acquired from Ystalyfera tin works. Roger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Although "small" engines, when we (might possibly have though not saying we did.....) put old pennies on the track at Spondon, the Celanese locos (including Peckett "Victory") seemed to flatten them much more than a "Peak" did with an express. Never figured that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Well, if the SouWest and Clyde Iron versions appear I'll be an immensely happy man! :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted October 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2015 (Probably nothing I'd like to start with that because let's face it, it probably is. A little while ago I would have dismissed this straight away but after the sentinels we'll see. I've just watched Hornby said latest Facebook video on the LSWR 48 coaches. They look great however in the background is an 0-4-0 saddle tank in what appears to the white test plastic or possibly the 3D printer preproduction style. It isn't a production L&Y tank as that is far too old to have a model of this type and there is no motor in the cab. It's also definitely not the railroad caley tank. Personally I think it has a somewhat Peckett look to it but that's a personal opinion. As I said, it's probably nothing but I thought I'd share it. I have a screen shot too but as its of a Hornby video I don't know if I'd be allowed to post it so I won't for now, if the mods say it's ok I will. I hope this is interesting and I apologise if it's common knowledge/complete rubbish/speculation) Edit: Now the announcement has been made I can confirm this is a W4 Peckett 0-4-0ST announced by Hornby. Hi all, At last! A 'Proper Industrial'.... Of course - this one will also be capable of turning into a genuine 'Scottish Puggy'! Of course - we could just wait for Hornby to do the Scottish varieties. Looking forward to more info and a release date! Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 If there is sufficient demand Ultrascale might be interested as might Alan Gibson, plus there are a number of 3D printers who might do centres assuming rims were available. I'm sure I've read recently (probably on a forum) that ultrascale will not be developing any new products or taking on any special commissions in the foreseeable future so as to concentrate on reducing delivery times. I hope I'm wrong on that. Same at Alan Gibson. As discussed recently on another thread Mr Seymours time is taken up just satisfying normal and trade demand. I suppose the situation could change if there was sufficient financial inducement. Regarding 3D printed wheel centres, has anybody seen any spoked examples successfully fitted and running? I have seen examples listed on Bill Bedfords website but note that shrinkage and stability over time may be a problem. Things may have moved on since this posting. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/78382-fud-what-is-it/&do=findComment&comment=1219965 P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The interesting thing about these small loco's is they are not just confined to the UK they did get all over the world. I am positive some of them made it to Australia, I have found there are a few. Now these are not necessary in standard gauge. I have to commend Chris of high level to make a all singing chassis for it. No doubt Alan Gibson will make the wheels for it! Yes I am in the market for one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2015 Hi. Although smaller than the GWR Pecketts inherited from SHT/P&M it would appear to be ok as BR No 1 Hercules acquired from Ystalyfera tin works. Roger The W4 the GWR never had of course - but the WR did have it. As far as I can trace the only W4 Pecketts owned by the GWR were the four taken over from the Swansea Harbour Trust, the last being withdrawn in the summer of 1929. Photos of these are not easy to find (there is one in the RCTS history and it has a half height cab backsheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I'm sure I've read recently (probably on a forum) that ultrascale will not be developing any new products or taking on any special commissions in the foreseeable future so as to concentrate on reducing delivery times. I hope I'm wrong on that. Same at Alan Gibson. As discussed recently on another thread Mr Seymours time is taken up just satisfying normal and trade demand. I suppose the situation could change if there was sufficient financial inducement. Regarding 3D printed wheel centres, has anybody seen any spoked examples successfully fitted and running? I have seen examples listed on Bill Bedfords website but note that shrinkage and stability over time may be a problem. Things may have moved on since this posting. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/78382-fud-what-is-it/&do=findComment&comment=1219965 P Pretty much true, I'm afraid. David Rogers in particular has my sympathy because there's only one of him in that workshop yet everyone thinks he's got all the time in the world. Thinking of the future, and as far as I am aware, nobody is in training to succeed him if and when he calls time. The business is therefore likely to cease at that point. The 3D wheels were a brave (and expensive) venture, but I think the nature of the materials used make for some interesting long-term effects. I bought a set of Bulleid Q1 wheels - they are the only ones in P4 to replicate the domed face - and noticed that the material goes a bit yellow over time. Being somewhat brittle, they don't grip the axles all that well by themselves, which is why your choice of glue is important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted October 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2015 OK, Somebody's got to ask: What's the difference between W4, W5, W6 etc.? Cheers Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2865 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) OK, Somebody's got to ask: What's the difference between W4, W5, W6 etc.? Cheers Keith The number. Edited October 2, 2015 by Spitfire2865 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2015 Unfortuately, Kilmersden is not a W4.......however.... Rob 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Now I can fully appreciate that this is a great release, however I feel that engine shed is not the correct platform to announcing these new releases. Yes it is an under development product, but it is a new release. I feel the engine shed should only be used for the development and progress of products announced in the current years catalogue. Am I alone in thinking this? I don't know if you're alone but I'm certainly not with you. I think this is a delightful way of announcing new products, and at a stage when they're sufficiently advanced that we know they're not just a "land grab" with no work yet done. And with a bit of fun, too. All these announcements might make pickings a bit slim in December, of course, but they give year-round publicity and a real sense of momentum. At the risk of me-too-ing, I was delighted to see this announcement. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.J Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) However I feel that engine shed is not the correct platform to announcing these new releases. Yes it is an under development product, but it is a new release. I feel the engine shed should only be used for the development and progress of products announced in the current years catalogue. Am I alone in thinking this? I disagree with that completely. Cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would have a problem with a way of announcing a model. Never knew there was a right and wrong way of making an announcement. I'll keep that in mind for when I start a RTR model train company..... Edited October 3, 2015 by Rusty.J 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post ullypug Posted October 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2015 Aha. The law of sod applies again. Bet they won't do this livery though! Roger at CSP's not going to be pleased... 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ruggedpeak Posted October 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Am I alone in thinking this? Yes! This is excellent integration of Hornby product development and marketing to provide a far superior and more creative method of customer communications than the annual froth/whinge fest. After the wibbles over the recent results, it is reassuring to show that they have a good gameplan and are executing it well. PS Who is "Oulton Hall No.5972" on the Hornby forum? Why would anyone spoil the livery choice thread with an identical whinge about the announcement? http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/forum/post/view/topic_id/11405/?p=2 Edited October 3, 2015 by ruggedpeak 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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