Popular Post Ceptic Posted October 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Hi all. Over the past years, several modellers have expressed an interest in modelling this 'Iconic' Southern terminus. Sometimes known as 'The Clapham of the South'. For me, locally, the first inkling of this group's proposed layout came via an invitation from long time RMweb member, and friend, Mr. Peter Kazmierczak, to participate in a meeting, held, under the auspices of himself and that of the Bournemouth Central Library. Along with Peter, was our most esteemed guest, BR(S / S&D) Driver & Fireman, Peter Smith, Driver of the last, up. 'Pines Express'. Donald Beale (R.I.P.), being the booked Driver, giving up his 'seat' for the occasion. Along with meeting both Peters, I was most impressed with the ambitions of the BWMRG. (No names, no pack-drill. at the moment !) The layout's main viewing point is from the North. (Not a favourable, prototype. view, according to several photographers). Approximately 35' long (Scale 1/2 Mile +). from the terminus stop-blocks, to the convenient exit, opposite the Carriage Cleaning Shed. Beyond this. the line transcribes a 180 degrees curve to enter the 'Fiddle' ?, 'Formation' ? yard. All the best, Ceptic. Hhmmm..... P.S.... Looking at the file upload limit. here, I'm beginning to wonder if I'm doing it right ? or, if it's all worth while ?. . Edit :- Or, most likely, the Dopey old Duffer behind this thread. See under the title 'Remembering to re-size the image to below 1000 of lord knows what'. Cheers. Edit 2 :- Change in Group's title, Oct. 2018. Edited November 4, 2018 by Ceptic 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2015 stunning, we will look forward to seeing more 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I was lucky enough to get to see the layout last week; it'll be an absolute cracker of an exhibition layout with interesting operation. Roger's got quite a bit of work to do before we get to see this although it's instantly recognisable with the signals in place but I think it'll be well worth the wait. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted October 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2015 Certainly worthwhile thanks With three major stations modelled in the local area to such high standards it just needs Poole and Broadstone filling in to make a huge layout! (Yes I know Bournemouth Central can't move but I can dream ) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted October 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2015 Many thanks for starting this off Frank and thanks for your comments Andy. More pics as they become available. Next big jobs are the station buildings and completing the fiddle yard. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2015 Nice to see. If we connect all the layouts up, we could have one big layout of the local area! I'm not sure which exhibition hall they would all fit in though... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hi all. Over the past years, several modellers have expressed an interest in modelling this 'Iconic' Southern terminus. Sometimes known as 'The Clapham of the South'. For me, locally, the first inkling of this group's proposed layout came via an invitation from long time RMweb member, and friend, Mr. Peter Kazmierczak, to participate in a meeting, held, under the auspices of himself and that of the Bournemouth Central Library. Along with Peter, was our most esteemed guest, BR(S / S&D) Driver & Fireman, Peter Smith, Driver of the last, up. 'Pines Express'. Donald Beale (R.I.P.), being the booked Driver, giving up his 'seat' for the occasion. Along with meeting both Peters, I was most impressed with the ambitions of the BWMRG. (No names, no pack-drill. at the moment !) The layout's main viewing point is from the North. (Not a favourable, prototype. view, according to several photographers). Approximately 35' long (Scale 1/2 Mile +). from the terminus stop-blocks, to the convenient exit, opposite the Carriage Cleaning Shed. Beyond this. the line transcribes a 180 degrees curve to enter the 'Fiddle' ?, 'Formation' ? yard. All the best, Ceptic. Hhmmm... P.S.... Looking at the file upload limit. here, I'm beginning to wonder if I'm doing it right ? or, if it's all worth while ?. I don't see that viewing from the "north" is a disadvantage for this layout. Prototype photography is another matter. Views from the north mean pointing your camera into the sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ceptic Posted October 14, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Hi all. Apologies for the abrupt end to my initial post. Got called away. Anyway, here's some more info and photos. The track layout / ground plan is scaled from the B.T.C. 1962 1 : 480 Scale diagram. Roger Sunderland converted this to 4mm. / 1ft. using Martin Wynne's Templot. The track itself is 16.5mm. C & L Finescale Flexitrack, with the point work, built, using C & L's individual turn-out items. The layout and locos are DCC equipped and this is the 'Box o' Tricks', built, as were the baseboards, by electric wizard Steve Camp. This controls all routes. Each route, can be cleared, that is points and signals set, by the operation / pressing of just one button. One of Roger's. as are the signals. A cameo scene in itself. The Carriage washing plant, on the approach to the Cleaning Shed. The Washer was built utilising two of Bachmann's RTP products. The Control office and shed were scratch built. A few line-side views (Mine being of dubious quality) More to follow. Thanks for looking in. Your comments are much appreciated. Frank. Edited to credit the right people. Edited February 23, 2016 by Ceptic 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted October 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2015 I'd just like to clarify an important, point. The baseboards were built by Dave, a key member of our group, and the "box of tricks" was built by Steve C, who is the only person I know who could have done it. He also mastered Templot and produced the track plan, overlaying on the OS map and giving us templates for the points. For those interested in these things the layout is DCC controlled and the control panel uses a CML electronics module to allow push button control of points and signals. It also sets any one of 12 routes using just one push button. All DCC equipment is by Digitrax and point motors are Tortoise. As Frank says, the plain track is C&L but we built the points using Templot and copperclad sleepers as they were pretty much all non standard and include two scissors crossovers and a double slip. Point work was built by myself and Dave. Ballast is Woodland scenics 'N' scale, a mix of buff and brown, but the ash ballast in the yard area is fine sieved sand. Signals are mainly from MSE components, still awaiting LSWR finials in some cases and operated using servos and the brilliant GF control units giving slow pull off and bounce on return. The first building has now been completed and installed, the goods shed. This and future buildings will utilise a new (to me anyway) material called Foamex ( not to be confused with foamboard) which gives great rigidity but is very light and easy to cut. If anyone is interested I'll try and post some pics. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted October 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) . Edited November 12, 2016 by 4630 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Many thanks Roger, for setting me straight, in regard to the people 'behind the scenes', as it were. I'd never make a good journalist, even with a note-pad and pen, to boost. Please accept my sincere apologies, to those who I've missed out, and to those who've I've got mixed up with. All the best, Frank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted October 15, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2015 No problem Frank but I forgot to mention your role. Not only have you been very supportive but also provided us with a mountain of info and the most wonderful translation of the original building plans into workable drawings. Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The first layout I've known to use materials from a dog kennel. That'll get folk guessing as to what bit it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 The first layout I've known to use materials from a dog kennel. That'll get folk guessing as to what bit it is. You've obviously got more Chum"s that know Andy ! Excellent looking layout, its given me fond memories of my childhood trips to see my grandmother, very much looking forward to more postings 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 No problem Frank but I forgot to mention your role. Not only have you been very supportive but also provided us with a mountain of info and the most wonderful translation of the original building plans into workable drawings. Many thanks. Thanks Roger. I've, always. been a bu**er, at a loss, in remembering names. Got me into a bit of trouble*, in the past, with various ex-girl friends. *See Andy Y's referral to 'Dog-house'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Hi all. A view, very similar to Andy's, showing 9F 92233 with the Up 'Pines', about to leave from the station's longest platform, No.4. The length of this, and that of Nos.5 & 6, restricted the length of trains that could be accommodated, especially the 'Arrivals'. The 'Restriction of Loads --- Bournemouth West. Regs' governing this, state that "The maximum load of trains entering Bournemouth West is restricted to 12 bogie coaches. or the equivalent, except when 6 or more bogie coaches of the new type (67 feet 1 inch long) are included, then the maximum load is 11 bogie coaches, or the equivalent. These loads must not be exceeded, except by prior arrangement" Several images depicting 'Departures', notably the 'Belle' https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/6855733469_afc673beb3_b.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7189/6855725507_c2a74129f2_b.jpg 'Specials' https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5024/5570021140_7ef84f6b51_b.jpg and the not so notable / special https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5024/5570021140_7ef84f6b51_b.jpg show the train engine in front / in advance of the platform Starter. It wasn't until the Advanced Starter, along with it's route indicating 'Distant' (See the pics in previous post) were 'Off', along with whistles being blown and Green flags been waved, that the 'Up' departing train could make it's move. Thus, it could be assumed that departing trains would not be held to such load limits. Cheers Frank. Edited October 17, 2015 by Ceptic 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Ok, Without any less adieu (and chat). Some more pics. The Goods Shed. Built from laser cut Plasticard (Outer) and reinforcing Foamex (Inner). Sizes were gained by using the 1 : 480 Ground plan and photographs. Not entirely accurate, in width, at the time, but, since then, more detailed drawings have been acquired. Pictures of the developing station area. The 'Queen's Hotel' *. Threw a few 'Arrers' here. and knocked down a couple of 'Pins' (and pints) in 'Skittle alley'.' round back Since then, it's, definitely, gone downhill. *Topics / sites, regarding Railway Hotels, their use, their rise to fame and their demise, are available, on line. Without going too far off topic, comments are welcome here, also. Cheers. Edited October 18, 2015 by Ceptic 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted October 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 18, 2015 Wow, this looks like a stunning project; it will be following closely. Many thanks, Dave.T 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted October 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 20, 2015 A final shot of the goods shed, photoshopped by a colleague. Detailing (weeds ) done in the goods yard. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted October 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2015 The surfacing in the yard is very convincing, often a difficult feature to get looking "right". Please can you tell us how you did it? Many thanks, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibby Line Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Fantastic project, it looks excellent. Look forward to seeing updates. Eddie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Roger Sunderland Posted October 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2015 The surfacing in the yard is very convincing, often a difficult feature to get looking "right". Please can you tell us how you did it? Many thanks, Dave. Thanks DLT. The track work in the yard was first ballasted with very fine sieved sand (from the New Forest actually). The sides of the rails and sleepers were sprayed with Railmatch sleeper grime. Then we brushed on some Geoscenics track powders. These give the impression of caked on ballast and we've used the same technique in the platform areas and where locos stand but with more black pigment to represent oil deposits. On the real thing the yard was mainly gravel so we spread a layer of PVA on the area and sprinkled on a mix of the sand and Woodland scenics gravel, buff colour. This was then soaked with a diluted mix of PVA water and a drop or two of washing up liquid, to stop bubbling. When dry the whole thing was toned down with an airbrush using a mix of rust blacks and greys. Certain areas were treated again with PVA both round and between the tracks, and a mix of static grass fibres, Noch mainly, were put on wth a grass machine, I use a Greenscene one. The mix of fibres Is between 2 and 6 mm in length. Finally the area was again toned down with an airbrush to take the shine off the grass. To be honest there is still further work to do, the gravel still looks a little fresh to me and I'd like to see some rosebay willow herb in there somewhere 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted October 23, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2015 Thanks very much Roger, the results are superb. Cheers, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Really love the detailing / signals etc etc watching with interest... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2015 I am watching this one with a special interest. 40 years ago I proposed this as a project for my school's railway society. Never happened unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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