devonseasider Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Looking for advice & suggestions from those with far more knowledge & experience of these things than I have. I've seen lots of references to various chips, sound projects & suppliers, but as it's an area I've not been involved in it still seems a bit of a minefield. Would anyone like a stab at suggesting "the best" system to go for, with reasons? Conversely, are there any judged to be better avoided, again with reasons? I'm thinking about availability, quality of control, quality/fidelity of sound (that staccato "bark" was quite distinctive), speaker response and, of course, cost. I know it's very subjective, but is it possible to get a balance between these variables? I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of people who've fitted various ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Looking for advice & suggestions from those with far more knowledge & experience of these things than I have. I've seen lots of references to various chips, sound projects & suppliers, but as it's an area I've not been involved in it still seems a bit of a minefield. Would anyone like a stab at suggesting "the best" system to go for, with reasons? Conversely, are there any judged to be better avoided, again with reasons? I'm thinking about availability, quality of control, quality/fidelity of sound (that staccato "bark" was quite distinctive), speaker response and, of course, cost. I know it's very subjective, but is it possible to get a balance between these variables? I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of people who've fitted various ones. Steam or Diesel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonseasider Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 A diesel-powered terrier would be quite an interesting beast . . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I have a CSU V4 fitted to mine with a sugar cube speaker. I got mine from Digitrains. Not sure its the best sound as its the first loco I have ever fitted with a sound chip. Sorry I can't be any more help. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Steam or Diesel? Less Gin with the Water I would suggest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SWD You drive is a big improvement on their older stuff, but they only do a M7 currently. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Why not use the same decoder (ZIMO MX644D) that Dapol are using in their Ready to Run sound fitted models? Surely they must know something about what's best? The Dapol R-T-R has a hefty price premium, yet it's a simple installation, so check out the aftermarket suppliers. The excellent ZIMO MX644D can be obtained from Digitrains for £82 plus a few quid for a speaker. This has sounds recorded from a real Terrier and is a cheaper alternative to anything else mentioned so far. Next Issue of Hornby Magzine, issue 102, will have a feature on sound - fitting a Dapol Terrier with a ZIMO MX644D, out next week. M7 is not very like the sound you need for a Terrier, so SWD will not be of much use. Kind regards Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2015 Why not use the same decoder (ZIMO MX644D) that Dapol are using in their Ready to Run sound fitted models? Surely they must know something about what's best? The Dapol R-T-R has a hefty price premium, yet it's a simple installation, so check out the aftermarket suppliers. The excellent ZIMO MX644D can be obtained from Digitrains for £82 plus a few quid for a speaker. This has sounds recorded from a real Terrier and is a cheaper alternative to anything else mentioned so far. Next Issue of Hornby Magzine, issue 102, will have a feature on sound - fitting a Dapol Terrier with a ZIMO MX644D, out next week. M7 is not very like the sound you need for a Terrier, so SWD will not be of much use. Kind regards Paul My thoughts exactly regarding the fitment, and that's great news on the Magazine article...........perfect timing for me, should be getting my BR Terrier soon, not that I'll be able to play with it for months, everything is in packing boxes awaiting a moving date Good things and all that............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 My thoughts exactly regarding the fitment, and that's great news on the Magazine article...........perfect timing for me, should be getting my BR Terrier soon, not that I'll be able to play with it for months, everything is in packing boxes awaiting a moving date Good things and all that............ Here's a short video of the Terrier and Digirains' ZIMO sound project working perfectly together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSx7Ox5izM Kind regards, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David4472 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 The sound file on the digitrains decoder has a wee lisp in the chuff, it's a while since I've been on a Terrier so I'm not sure what is leaking, the sound would be fine if I only had one model but I presently have five with a plan for a couple more. Apart from DCC Supplies who only have the Terrier sound available on an esu decoder which they are charging £30+ more for, is there any other source for a Terrier sound? David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2015 The sound file on the digitrains decoder has a wee lisp in the chuff, it's a while since I've been on a Terrier so I'm not sure what is leaking, the sound would be fine if I only had one model but I presently have five with a plan for a couple more. Apart from DCC Supplies who only have the Terrier sound available on an esu decoder which they are charging £30+ more for, is there any other source for a Terrier sound? David I am pretty sure "Mr Sound Guy" is the supplier for Dapol of the OEM fitment, if I am wrong I am sure somebody will let me know soon enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2015 I am pretty sure "Mr Sound Guy" is the supplier for Dapol of the OEM fitment, if I am wrong I am sure somebody will let me know soon enough Having read this somewhere and also seeing "Mr Sound Guy" in a magazine DVD feature I thought he would be easy to track down but having scoured the web I find nothing...........has anyone information at all what's going on with this source of sound projects? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David4472 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Thanks, Mr Soundguy did indeed produce the sound file for Dapol, unfortunately he produced it solely for Dapol so he's not able to help, I've had a good search but can't find anyone else producing Terrier sound files. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David4472 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I put "dcc Mr sound guy" in to Google his link came up nae bother. http://www.mrsoundguy.co.uk David Edited November 9, 2015 by David4472 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2015 I put "dcc Mr sound guy" in to Google his link came up nae bother. http://www.mrsoundguy.co.uk David Hmm interesting, all I get is an error message saying "this webpage is not available"........................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David4472 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I don't understanding why the problem, I clicked the link and it took me to the Web page??? One for the IT gremlin experts. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) I don't understanding why the problem, I clicked the link and it took me to the Web page??? One for the IT gremlin experts. David Odd as I have tried the link in Google Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer..........all with the same message! edit............Just tried it on my laptop (different connection) and I get the same message.......problem with page, timed out. I'll just give up Edited November 10, 2015 by boxbrownie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David4472 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 David I sent the rmweb link to a friend and the link worked fine. I'm not an IT expert and have no idea what to suggest. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokebox Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'm not an expert either, but try turning your router off and then on again, or press the reset button if it has one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John YouChoos Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 YouChoos Terrier sounds were recently updated, and available on the MX644D 21pin too, so if you have multiple Terriers, this provides some variety too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) I'm not an expert either, but try turning your router off and then on again, or press the reset button if it has one. This worked, and amazingly I forgot completely about the typical IT first response, so reliable has my connection been for many months now "have you tried turning it off and on again" web page available for me now, thank you. Edited November 13, 2015 by boxbrownie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) YouChoos Terrier sounds were recently updated, and available on the MX644D 21pin too, so if you have multiple Terriers, this provides some variety too. I saw that and listened to the example, but dare I say the online video demo seemed to have a very distorted/high pitched "crackle" to the sound............sort of put me off really. Sorry just my observation. Edited November 13, 2015 by boxbrownie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokebox Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I'm glad it worked for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John YouChoos Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I saw that and listened to the example, but dare I say the online video demo seemed to have a very distorted/high pitched "crackle" to the sound............sort of put me off really. Sorry just my observation.Odd, as I haven't done a video of my Zimo Terrier sounds, so don't know what you were watching... Perhaps a very old CT project posted years ago? Link is probably still there, but totally different project... Like all the DCC sound vendors, our projects get rebuilt and updated totally on a regular basis to keep up with advances as the decoders and associated software improves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium boxbrownie Posted November 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Err...this.......it says it is a Zimo with a sugar cube speaker. http://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Gallery.asp?L1=GalleryOOSteam&Item=Terrier If it is a very old out of date project it might need a note saying as such. Edited November 13, 2015 by boxbrownie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John YouChoos Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Err...this.......it says it is a Zimo with a sugar cube speaker. http://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Gallery.asp?L1=GalleryOOSteam&Item=Terrier If it is a very old out of date project it might need a note saying as such. Thanks David, you're quite right... It was Zimo, and it is an old one. That's the trouble with videos I guess - they need constantly updating as projects evolve. That one was the first-cut Zimo Terrier project directly converted from the old CT one. I'll see if I can add a note... Probably got dozens of old videos on YouTube that need similar notes!Thanks for pointing it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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