rufus Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Hello Firstly can I apologize if this is a too simple question for you serious modellers. I found my father's old clockwork Hornby engine in the loft and want to resurrect it. Oddly the engine has No. 20 printed on it but the same colour tender is No. 30. As I don't understand the numbering of Hornby trains, does this mean that the tender is the wrong size and do I need to buy a matching No.20 from somewhere? Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Rufus Welcome. I don't think it's the wrong question at all, but it fear it might be that you're perhaps not asking it in the best place to get an answer. There is a Hornby collectors club, and various other clubs who specialise in tinplate models, and they will be able to give you advice. It may be that your loco & tender do belong together despite their numbers. A visit to ebay will give you a hint as to their value - and if valuable, don't modify, paint, change in any way The Gauge 0 Guild also has a clockwork group who can help. If it hasn't been used for a while, I'd suggest some light oil be applied to the mechanism and particularly the spring, before winding. Wind a little and let it run, then a little more, and run, and so on. Once oiled, you probably don't want the track down on anything valuable, it'll drip! HTH Simon (Edit due to over enthusiastic smellchecker) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
switcher 1 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 On this very website is a forum which should interest you, here's the link. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/84210-coarse-scale-o-gauge/page-7&do=findComment&comment=2073573 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Carne Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Rufus, welcome to the forum,but I would agree that you are probably asking in the wrong place,come and ask in the vintage and collectables section of the forum,quite a few of us over there with a passion for vintage O gauge tinplate trains. To answer your question,yes,strictly speaking,your loco and tender are a mismatch,the No20 was Hornbys smallest loco at the time,and was non reversing,the No30 was the next one up in the range,and had a slightly larger tender,with couplings that match the one on the front of the No30 loco,both were part of the more toy like range offered after WW2,when very little of the fabulous pre war range was reintroduced. Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 On this very website is a forum which should interest you, here's the link. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/84210-coarse-scale-o-gauge/page-7&do=findComment&comment=2073573 Thanks - I did look but couldn't find it! Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufus Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 Thank you everyone for your very helpful advice and tips (especially about oiling - a disaster waiting to happen!) I will follow up your leads to other RMweb forums and 0-gauge societies (which have given me a link to a local 0-gauge club too). Although I have to do everything on a shoestring budget, I guess that I will have to find a cheap No20 tender, although I have since discovered another loco, this time without any tender, with the markings BW Bavaria (maybe I can switch the No30 to use with it!). Hopefully, that will be enough to find the maker on the internet. Again, thanks for taking the bother to reply. Rufus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Carne Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Rufus, You shouldn't have too much trouble finding the tender to match your loco,or even the loco for your current tender if you so wish.Plenty of these items survive in excellent condition,and don't make big money,a No 20 tender should be no more than £10 on its own,and even a lonely No 30 loco seeking a tender should be £30 or under. The other loco marked BW Bavaria sounds interesting,this was mabe by Bing Werke in the early 1920s,Bing were one of the great Nuremberg toy making companies,and trains were one of their specialist subjects,including many for the UK market. Google Bing Werke,(1919-1932),and Gebruder Bing,(the companies earlier name,1866-1919 I think). Cheers, Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenglade Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Hi Rufus.....I did a quick search on eBay and came up with this... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-0-GAUGE-TINPLATE-BR-LINED-GREEN-No-20-LOCO-TENDER-VGC-allround-/371477398199?hash=item567dc742b7:g:neIAAOSwA4dWNcAw I only got to page 4 before finding this one...if it's not the correct tender I'm sure that a little more searching should find what you need as there was many more pages to look through..... cheers Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufus Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Thank you for your additional replies, I will keep an eye on ebay in the hope that if I'm patient I'll find the right tender at the right price. I've found a website which covers the history of Bing toymakers and it mentions the BW as a trademark used around 1920/1930, so that's one mystery solved. I've had some useful replies from the Gauge 0 Guild and local club, and I'm quite amazed how helpful everyone has been to a real novice. Thanks again Rufus/Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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