RMweb Gold chuffinghell Posted August 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2020 Fantastic work Bob Very, very impressive Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Evening...... Have painted the darkest shade on random 'slabs' will apply the medium grey when dry..... Regards always.... Bob 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Evening Guys.... Prior to dry bushing a light grey over the two tone surface.... Wondering how this will turn out? Regards always Bob 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Hi All.... Have dry brushed the lightest colour over the entire section..... Will allow to dry then use weathering powder..... Regards always.... Bob 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 I think your dark shade is a little too dark Bob. Regards Lez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, BobM said: Hi All.... Have dry brushed the lightest colour over the entire section..... Will allow to dry then use weathering powder..... Regards always.... Bob I know I am not there yet, and before I ad the weathering powder, there's something just not right, wonder whether a light rub over with the fibre pen may be needed, but will hold fire....? Regards always Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, lezz01 said: I think your dark shade is a little too dark Bob. Regards Lez. Hi Lez.. Must have jumped over your posting, yes agreed it;s not quite there Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Hi..... failing that may paint over the dark shade with a lighter tone? Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 open to drastic suggestions too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
380John Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 In the same vain as a weathering powder I wonder if you painted it again it might look too "fresh" bob. The rest of the surface looks great. So based on that have you looked up methods using artists chalks and pastels? I think for individual stones that may help you tone them down without affecting the rest? Just an idea? John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) I think probably to mis-quote Shakespeare 'Have we heard the chimes of midnight'...? I am not adverse to using this section as a test and rebuild this short piece if necessary, but will keep at it for now, will tone down the dark firstly to see how it looks. Regards always... Bob Edited August 10, 2020 by BobM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 Hi... I have perhaps erred but have quickly gone over the darkest slabs with a lighter colour to tone down, will have to certainly revisit this, may chuck it, sand it right down or repaint....? Comments very much appreciated... Regards always, Bob 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 Hi Bob, if you'll take some guidance from a complete stranger to your thread, I would leave that all to dry now, and see how it turns out. I agree with Lez that you started with too dark a colour, but you've managed to rescue it quite well. Tomorrow, if you dry brush a light grey on individual lighter stones to get some more contrast then I think you'll be getting near to where you want to be. Just to prove to you I know what I'm talking about, i did a similar thing some years ago on a station building, adding too dark a colour to some stones: which looked awful, but I managed to rescue it and it ended up like this: All the best, Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 10, 2020 Author Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Alister_G said: Hi Bob, if you'll take some guidance from a complete stranger to your thread, I would leave that all to dry now, and see how it turns out. I agree with Lez that you started with too dark a colour, but you've managed to rescue it quite well. Tomorrow, if you dry brush a light grey on individual lighter stones to get some more contrast then I think you'll be getting near to where you want to be. Just to prove to you I know what I'm talking about, i did a similar thing some years ago on a station building, adding too dark a colour to some stones: which looked awful, but I managed to rescue it and it ended up like this: All the best, Al. Hi..... Thank you Al, very much appreciate the input. I sometimes make a hash of things even with the best guidance and this in one of those times I believe, I will see how it looks tomorrow, however I have a feeling I going to rub it right back down as far as I can (or rebuild this section) and repaint,as I can't live with it the way it is and the more I 'fiddle with it' the madder I become with myself...! Regards always... Bob 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, BobM said: I have a feeling I going to rub it right back down as far as I can (or rebuild this section) and repaint,as I can't live with it the way it is and the more I 'fiddle with it' the madder I become with myself...! I know just what you mean. I frequently have bruised ankles from kicking myself Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 Not at all Bob. All you did was choose the wrong dark shade. If you look at a pavement the stones are subtly different shades of the same basic colour. Let try this a different way, start with a light stone colour as it comes out of the pot. That is going to be your final colour that you dry brush over the rest. Add some of that colour to a platelet and add one or two brushfulls of dark/light earth and that is your middle shade. Now paint 15-25% of the stones with that shade then add a couple of brushfulls of the basic light colour to it and then add another couple of brushfulls of the light/dark earth colour to the mix and paint another 10% of the stones with that colour. Once dry then dry brush the whole thing over with the original light stone colour and that should be that. Once it's all dry rub in a dark earthy weathering powder or ground pastel into the whole thing and gently wipe off with a lightly dampened sponge. The job should then be a good un. Regards Lez. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted August 10, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 10, 2020 You can't make a dark colour lighter by brushing a lighter colour over it Bob mate. The dark colour will always come though. You can only make a light colour darker, it just don't work the other way mate. Trust me! I know this from bitter experience Bob. Don't give up on it and start again, just rub it all off with a glass fiber brush and repaint it. Regards Lez. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 Morning...... Have taken it back down (early this morning) with a fibre pen to a level where I can begin again.....as I couldn't live with the result... Regards always Bob 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Harlequin Posted August 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BobM said: Morning...... Have taken it back down (early this morning) with a fibre pen to a level where I can begin again.....as I couldn't live with the result... Regards always Bob That looks really good as it is, Bob! Like slightly damp paving. Edit: Apart from the scratch marks, which are probably too visible, unfortunately. How about dry brushing now (?) and while you're doing that, concentrate on a few random slabs to break up the texture just a tiny bit more. Remember random means sometimes the slabs you pick might be next to each other, not equally distributed. (It's very difficult for the human brain to create a truly random distribution - it either wants to create patterns or it sees them when they aren't really there!) If you could find a process that would get an end result something like that but without the scratch marks, I think you'd be onto something! Edited August 11, 2020 by Harlequin 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted August 11, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 11, 2020 Yep, agree with Phil, that actually looks really good now. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37Oban Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 10 hours ago, BobM said: I sometimes make a hash of things even with the best guidance and this in one of those times I believe, I will see how it looks tomorrow, however I have a feeling I going to rub it right back down as far as I can (or rebuild this section) and repaint,as I can't live with it the way it is and the more I 'fiddle with it' the madder I become with myself...! Hi, I have now reached the stage of if I'm not happy with it, then start again, no matter how far along a project I am. I've learnt that it can often take longer, sometimes considerably so, trying to correct faults to make something I'm happy with rather than starting again and being aware of the mistakes I'd made. Roja 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 Cheers all for the kind messages of support.....I will revisit the section, the camera may not be displaying the 'whiteness' that it does possess in reality. but will let you know how I progress further.... Regards always.... Bob 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) Evening All... Warm enough? Have remove as much as I believe that I can of the 'heavy' grey that was the trouble, without I think damaging the plasticard surface further, I will source a selection of enamel paint online for postal delivery just in case when I take a walk down Penn Models in K'ford on Thursday they don't stock what I want, they are more Revell stockist than Humbrol which is my usual preference, but I could obtain a few pots these as a back up? Will keep you kind souls updated on the next stage of this journey! Regards always Bob Edited August 11, 2020 by BobM 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bell Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I am no expert but I have seen this done quite effectively. The trick seems to be to use about 5 different greys some quite dark and some light. Once weathered down it looks quite good 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobM Posted August 11, 2020 Author Share Posted August 11, 2020 19 hours ago, lezz01 said: Not at all Bob. All you did was choose the wrong dark shade. If you look at a pavement the stones are subtly different shades of the same basic colour. Let try this a different way, start with a light stone colour as it comes out of the pot. That is going to be your final colour that you dry brush over the rest. Add some of that colour to a platelet and add one or two brushfulls of dark/light earth and that is your middle shade. Now paint 15-25% of the stones with that shade then add a couple of brushfulls of the basic light colour to it and then add another couple of brushfulls of the light/dark earth colour to the mix and paint another 10% of the stones with that colour. Once dry then dry brush the whole thing over with the original light stone colour and that should be that. Once it's all dry rub in a dark earthy weathering powder or ground pastel into the whole thing and gently wipe off with a lightly dampened sponge. The job should then be a good un. Regards Lez. Hi Lez...Hope all's well and not too uncomfortably hot...? Can I ask a (stupid) question, when you start with a light stone colour, do you mean apply that unmixed colour on to a percentage (leaving some), or 100% all of the slabs to cover to begin? Then use the slightly darker mix to over paint a percentage.....or what would be the remaining tiles? Sorry to be thick, again! Regards always Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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