Ed-farms Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 If my memory is correct then Locomotion / Rapido have at least 2 projects on the go One is the HSDT prototype which I believe was announced at around the end 2015 If we take the APTE time frame as an example then the project could take 2 to 2.5 years. The other project is still a mystery but I believe something will be available at the Warley Show. I’m still hoping it will be a P Train Jason (Rapido) or Sandra (Locomotion) please correct me if I am wrong John Plus the Stirling Single so if there is a mystery one that is 3 projects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 The last thing was the NRM deciding who should do the Mk3s. Rapido doubtless considered them until Oxfords announcement, then there is Hornby too. I think they scratching their heads around this rather long train, thinking about the best packages to offer (on the ordering side, doubtless many of us will do the same once they are known). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) If my memory is correct then Locomotion / Rapido have at least 2 projects on the go One is the HSDT prototype which I believe was announced at around the end 2015 If we take the APTE time frame as an example then the project could take 2 to 2.5 years. The other project is still a mystery but I believe something will be available at the Warley Show. I’m still hoping it will be a P Train Jason (Rapido) or Sandra (Locomotion) please correct me if I am wrong John I too would love it to be P-Train, but in there last newsletter this was on the bottom: Mystery project redux Finally, just a little note about the mystery project that we've been working on with our as yet undisclosed partner. Both will finally be revealed - for sure this time - at the Warley Show in November. Yes, this year. We will be showing off the new model with final painted samples and we promise that they will be worth the wait. We've just approved the first set of samples and found very little of fault so we're happy to move along to the next stage of the development. We're particularly proud of the motor and final drive configuration, which is amazingly smooth for a first sample, as well as being completely hidden and as close to prototypical as we can make it without shoehorning an actual small diesel engine in there. Oops, I may have given away too much! Maybe just a ploy, P-Train is electric, not diesel, but you know what these crazy guys are like!!! As for the MK3 coaches, Oxford's look stunning, as long as the colour match is correct then I'm sold, Would like coach lighting in them which may now be possible and I'll stick a decoder in them to control them anyway, as long as the HSDT's have NEM coupling pockets at the same height I have no issues at all. Stop the head scratching guys, You've built the best, now give APT-E a rival,,, Edited October 14, 2016 by UP 4000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
srihaggis Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Maybe just a ploy, P-Train is electric, not diesel, but you know what these crazy guys are like!!! Remember APT-P had a diesel gen set for 'something'. There was a video of it in Crewe Heritage doing an engine start (Old footage), just spent an hour trying to find it but seems to have dissapeared. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Remember APT-P had a diesel gen set for 'something'. There was a video of it in Crewe Heritage doing an engine start (Old footage), just spent an hour trying to find it but seems to have dissapeared. Is this what you are referring to? From Wiki :- Although all auxiliary equipment such as lighting, air conditioning and air compressors was powered by motor alternators driven from the 25 kV overhead line, it was recognised that if there were a power failure, conditions in the passenger vehicles would quickly become unbearable and even unsafe. Each driving van trailer i.e. the leading and trailing vehicles, was equipped with a diesel-alternator generator capable of supplying the minimum requirement of auxiliary power. The diesel-alternators were started using air motors powered from the train's air system, since the APT carried few batteries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 If my memory is correct then Locomotion / Rapido have at least 2 projects on the go One is the HSDT prototype which I believe was announced at around the end 2015 If we take the APTE time frame as an example then the project could take 2 to 2.5 years. The other project is still a mystery but I believe something will be available at the Warley Show. I’m still hoping it will be a P Train Jason (Rapido) or Sandra (Locomotion) please correct me if I am wrong John The other project is the GNR Stirling Single. Anything else is nothing to do with Locomotion Models as far as I'm aware. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I thought that Rapido were planning on releasing the trailer cars as well? I'm not buying one and then using Railroad standard Oxford Rail models I'm afraid. It's top of the range models or nothing. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I thought that Rapido were planning on releasing the trailer cars as well? I'm not buying one and then using Railroad standard Oxford Rail models I'm afraid. It's top of the range models or nothing. Jason How do you know they are railroad standard, they haven't even been released yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 She's still not diesel driven though, I suppose like the dale unit on E-Train, good for starting and auxiliaries when needed, anyway just over a month before the Warley show when hopefully it's announced, wish I could be there, but hey ho, not possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UP 4000 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I thought that Rapido were planning on releasing the trailer cars as well? I'm not buying one and then using Railroad standard Oxford Rail models I'm afraid. It's top of the range models or nothing. Jason More superior than railroad! Your choice, if you don't like, then don't buy, At the moment these are the best on the market and will take some beating,,, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 How do you know they are railroad standard, they haven't even been released yet! Have you looked at anything from Oxford Rail? Adams Radial tank, Dean Goods, LNER cattle wagon, PO wagons with liveries that aren't even correct to the type of wagon. They all have issues. If they aren't Railroad standard then I don't know what is. So lets wait and see. But I'm not expecting much from a £35 coach. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Depends on how you look at things I guess. Deans hasn't been released either. Of the Radials I would go with Oxford as at least it is fit for DCC. as for the LNER wagon, I think it is a minor niggle. Just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 A minor niggle to some, but a huge mistake to others. Anyway this is going off topic, anything else to do with the model will be on the Rapido thread. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ely_South Posted January 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2017 As has been reported on the Rapido thread - Rapido have announced that they and Locomotion have put this project on pause for the time being. Not dead, but not going anywhere for now. Shame. I hope the project's brought back to life at some stage. But given that I'd bought the bits to make one before it was announced, I'll just have to get off my backside and get on with it! Cheers Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Millard Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 As has been reported on the Rapido thread - Rapido have announced that they and Locomotion have put this project on pause for the time being. Not dead, but not going anywhere for now. Shame. I hope the project's brought back to life at some stage. But given that I'd bought the bits to make one before it was announced, I'll just have to get off my backside and get on with it! Cheers Rob Here's the full text of the announcement in Rapido's latest UK newsletter Prototype HST gets a caution signal I have news about the Prototype HST Power Car project being produced in partnership with Locomotionmodels.com. When I was in Shildon this month, we sat down together and had a detailed look at the finances of the HSDT project. Due to the drop of the value of the pound and its continuing instability, we feel that the Prototype HST model is not financially viable at present. The project has not been cancelled, but like several mainline electrification projects in the UK it has been 'paused' for the time being. I know this will be enormously disappointing for my fellow modern-image modellers, but the realities of the economic situation can't be avoided. Stay tuned to future newsletters for more information about this project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Just read the same news letter, where is the whinge, moan, berated howling of dispere button? Well I was starting to think if I buy just this loco or the entire train especially prices are heading well north. Oh Rapido, if only you had entered the market 10 years earlier.... But fully understandable the need to pause at this variable time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2017 Very disappointed with it beig paused, but wallet relieved. Understand the reasons why and prepared to wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Boooooooo!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiel Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I hope someone will now make some brass etches for the grills so that a good conversion can be made from a donor HST. I have a pair of Genesis cab castings, but they need a lot of work to make them look good. That said it is also a long term project for myself, as there are other kits and conversions lined up ahead of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2017 Opportunity for a 3D printed one with professional respray ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delticfan Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just read the bad news - gutted!! Damn brexit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted February 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2017 Agreed, this was the one I really wanted.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Hugely disappointing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just read the bad news - gutted!! Damn brexit Politics, eh? It penetrates even the most important aspects of life. The one crumb of comfort is that the HSDT han’t been cancelled but I can’t see the situation becoming favourable enough for it to resume. Very sad. If this isn’t viable, what chance have we of someone doing the Fell or 10800? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 No Fell - finally something good has come out of the past 6 months since the referendum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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