Modelling the tram from Soller on Mallorca

[Soren]

Hi

 

I am about to build a model of the original 1913 trams -  not the newer ex. Lisbon trams.
There are lots of pictures on the web, but dimensions are hard to find.

Some of the few references to dimensions that I can find are uncertain.

The Occre wood model looks much to wide and are not to the scale that they claim 1:24, but rather 1:20 or larger.

 

I would be happy if anyone have some dimensions for this tram.

I will make a 3D model available for ordering by ShapeWays or similar.

 

Best Regards

Soren, Denmark

[MikeTrice]

Not certain if it is the tram in question but does this help? http://www.majorcarailways.com/fst080.htm

[Soren]

Hi Mike

 

Yes, thank you, that helps me with my project.

The only dimension that I still would question is the width of this tram, it looks more narrow in real life.
 

[rue_d_etropal]

It might be worth while contacting Giles Barnabe, as he produced book back in 2003. Could not see anything in the book, but sure to be more info.

[Nearholmer]

Best bet would be a holiday, with a tape measure, especially given the weather this week in the UK.

 

I found the guys at the workshop at Soller to be very proud of their work, and more than happy to talk, although we had to manage using basic German, which, slightly strangely, was our only common language! I have a feeling that there are now "official tours" of the works on the tourist beat, although when I visited it was totally unofficial.

 

And, yes, some of the cars are slim; if I had to guesstimate I would say 6ft.

 

Kevin

[Waddon]

I don't know if this helps, but this tiny German company produced a Mallorca tram at one time, link here:

 

http://www.n-tram-shop.de/epages/17779503.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/17779503/Categories/Fahrzeuge/Fahrzeuge_Spur_Nm/Strassenbahn_von_Mallorca_Spur_Nm

 

It seems to no longer be in production (and the site is in German) but they might be able to supply you with plans or other information perhaps?

[Soren]

Yes I have seen that web site.

These tiny trams are very detailed for that scale, very nice end extremely expensive.

 

Well, I might do as suggested - jump on a plane down there.

 

/Soren

[bécasse]

Careful measurement of some nearly end-on photos suggests that the motor cars are twice the width of the track gauge, i.e. around 1,8 metres or perhaps 6 feet (1,83m). I get the impression that the trailer cars might be marginally wider - 2 metres?

[Soren]

Yes - I would also think that the cars were between 1.80m and 1.90m wide on the platform - and some 10cm wider on the passenger compartment.

In meantime I found the drawings from Terry Russel/Ray Wilkinson - the ones that MikeTrice linked to above.

 

After MUCH searching I found this page with some dimensions: http://tranviadesoller.blogspot.com.es/p/automotores-carde-escoriaza-serie-13.html

I think the length of 7.9m is correct - not over couplers but over the platformbasis+the small puffer they have - that is also what I see from Terry's drawing

That also matches that the newer Lisbon cars are ~0.5m longer and they are 8.382m 

But a wheel base of 2.2m ? - I would think 2.0m - that is also the dimension I see on the drawing

 

 

Some other models exist of this tram:

http://www.majorcarailways.com/newsletter_mar2001.htm

http://tramways.blogspot.dk/2014/12/spanish-built-tram-models.html

Note how slim they are.

The Occre wood model is unfortunately much to wide:

http://www.occre.com/soller-tram.html?___store=en&___from_store=en

 

There is also a souvenir 'model'  https://www.fetasoller.com/userFiles/Image/Shop/Artikel/Geschenke/Tranvia_Teaser.jpg

No comments....

 

So I think I will make them 1.9 wide (On platform) and see how it looks.

 

/Soren

[Black Sheep]

My in-laws are about to emigrate to Soller to a little place next to a tram stop. 

 

I'll be out there in April if you PM me near to the time with any information you need and I'll try and find out / get photos for you if you like?

[GoingUnderground]

I have a near head on photo of No 2, taken in 2003, where the solid sided trailer car looks to be very nearly the same width as No 2.

 

 

Also there appeared to be a second type of trailer in use, an open "Toast Rack" type as well.

 

 

 

[sparks]

There was a series of articles in Continental Modeller some years ago (1980s/1990s?) with lots of drawings. My copy is in a box on the over side of the world at present so can't be more specific sorry.

 

Edit: That would be May/June 1989 and a subsequent issue as mentioned in the link in post #2 above!

Edited February 10, 2016 by sparks

[Unicorn1]

We have just returned from a week in Mallorca, with the obligatory trip to experience the trams, and the train from Soller to (nowhere near) Palma

 

So by way of thread revival - here are some Soller tram crews enjoying an ice cream break.

 

 

Les