SDJR7F88 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Some close ups of the model taken the other day (sorry there a bit late, been quite busy of late). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDhC1nTvuCY Hope they are of interest! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Some close ups of the model taken the other day (sorry there a bit late, been quite busy of late). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDhC1nTvuCY Hope they are of interest! Looks a bit on a German V60 from the fifties 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 27, 2017 Tried ours at the club tonight (I have no 16.5 mm track). It runs in the right direction and reasonably smoothly, though i hope it will improve when run in. Members seem happy with it and think it looks good but it really needs some weathering for a coal mine loco. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I too tried out mine on member's test track at a club meeting tonight. It ran very smoothly and quietly but it has been wired up the wrong way round. Overall I'm quite pleased with it notwithstanding its well documented flaws. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpplumy Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 got 2 more, also wired up backwards but run better. will re wire and get one repainted 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 My second one arrived last week to be repainted and just like my first one it was wired the wrong way round, I've ordered a third one today which is also for repainting... I wonder if it will be third time lucky to get one wired up right 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37081LochLong Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Well number three arrived today and as expected wired up the wrong way round yet again (thats one from Hattons, one from Rails of Sheffield and one from Hereford Model Centre)This one is going to be repainted but if it was to keep as original it would have gone back due to a printing error. I will be getting etched plates to cover this so it doesn't matter to me but its not good for someone not wanting to modify it: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Well number three arrived today and as expected wired up the wrong way round yet again (thats one from Hattons, one from Rails of Sheffield and one from Hereford Model Centre) This one is going to be repainted but if it was to keep as original it would have gone back due to a printing error. I will be getting etched plates to cover this so it doesn't matter to me but its not good for someone not wanting to modify it: janus_printing.jpg One of mine had a printing error that I have only just realised after seeing the photos posted by SDJF7F88. The "National Coal Board" lettering was on the engine cover doors in three places but in one place it was above the doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Picked up my NCB Janus from my shop today, as they only received their delivery this week. I had alerted them to the motor wiring issue, so they tested each of their 7 locos. 4 ran in the correct direction and 3 ran in the opposite direction, so there could be a 50% approx. reverse wiring error. As they were alerted before receiving their order, they contacted Golden Valley to find out what they were proposing. GV maintained the problem was that some locos had the blanking plate fitted in reverse, which both the shop owner and I doubted, as the plates are normally a one way fit. They also found out from Golden Valley after receiving the stock that GV weren't testing remaining stock, despite being aware of the fault. Edited July 29, 2017 by rembrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Can anyone advise where the 'blanking plate' is. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Can anyone advise where the 'blanking plate' is. Regards See pic in post 323 Edited July 29, 2017 by 25901 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 GV maintained the problem was that some locos had the blanking plate fitted in reverse, which both the shop owner and I doubted, as the plates are normally a one way fit. The blanking plates fit either way but don't alter the direction of travel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcroz Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Have cancelled my order for sound-fitted Janus - Oxford's Quality Control really needs to up their game. I was looking forward to Oxford's plans for model railways as I have been a fan and purchaser of their 1:76 die-cast for many years, but it does appear from posts on RMWeb that they have not realised the added complexity of locomotives sufficiently. Edited July 30, 2017 by dcroz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Have cancelled my order for sound-fitted Janus - Oxford's Quality Control really needs to up their game. I was looking forward to Oxford's plans for model railways as I have been a fan and purchaser of their 1:76 die-cast for many years, but it does appear from posts on RMWeb that they have not realised the added complexity of locomotives sufficiently. Taking your view point to its logical conclusion you will never be buying from some of the worlds largest automotive manufacturers as they have frequently had to recall vehicles and never buy certain brands of domestic appliance because fridges and washing machines have caught fire! It is all probably down to Human error installing the motor the wrong way around just like lots of plugs rewired by householders throughout the country giving no use protection! Mark Saunders 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcroz Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Hi Mark, You're absolutely right - waiting for "perfection" in most things would mean a very long wait! We all therefore have to make an individual decision on where we draw the line - for some this may be over-sized splashers, wash-out plugs obscured by handrails etc. Neither of these issues would stop me buying something that fitted my layout's era, for me, however, the line is one where locos wired "backwards" aren't picked up in the QC process before they leave the factory! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) however, the line is one where locos wired "backwards" aren't picked up in the QC process before they leave the factory! *cough* Dapol 68s *cough* Alex Edited July 30, 2017 by Midland Mole 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 *cough* Dapol 68s *cough* Alex ... and their 73, which was even worse! At least the Janus can be fixed by simply swapping the brush wires over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 *cough* Dapol 68s *cough* Alex And *cough* Hatton/Heljan 28s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just take the body off and a few seconds with a soldering iron to swap the wires over. The repaint of my Janus is finished.All it needs now are some BTH and YORKSHIRE plates from Narrow planet, some BSC logos for the cabsides and a bit of weathering. YEJanus-005.jpg Superb, Dave. Is the small gap between the cab and the footplate what was alluded to earlier in the thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted July 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2017 Also, how overscale are those handrails, they are clearly plastic and look a tad overscale. Might be able to live with that, a replacement etch could be problematical, as it wouldn't represent the roundness of the handrails, so a soldered up job of the appropriate brass or N/S wire might be called for. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Anybody got a diagram for the wiring to assist in putting it right once I acquire one? D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) Shouldn't need a diagram. Just a simple matter of swapping the red and black motor wires on their respective terminals on the circuit board.( I don't have one yet so assume it's a de-soldering/re-soldering job). Looking at this pic it's teminals M1 and M2 that need to be swapped. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105523-oxford-diecastgolden-valley-ye-janus-0-6-0de/page-12&do=findComment&comment=2788501 P Edited July 30, 2017 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Shouldn't need a diagram. Just a simple matter of swapping the red and black motor wires on their respective terminals on the circuit board.( I don't have one yet so assume it's a de-soldering/re-soldering job). Looking at this pic it's teminals M1 and M2 that need to be swapped. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105523-oxford-diecastgolden-valley-ye-janus-0-6-0de/page-12&do=findComment&comment=2788501 P If you are on DCC I'd not touch the wiring but as the locomotive is symmetrical I think I might put a shunters poll or something else to identify the front. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted July 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) If you are on DCC I'd not touch the wiring but as the locomotive is symmetrical I think I might put a shunters poll or something else to identify the front. the loco is not 100% symmetrical, it has three brass things at one end only Andi Edited July 30, 2017 by Dagworth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted July 30, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 30, 2017 Have cancelled my order for sound-fitted Janus - Oxford's Quality Control really needs to up their game. I was looking forward to Oxford's plans for model railways as I have been a fan and purchaser of their 1:76 die-cast for many years, but it does appear from posts on RMWeb that they have not realised the added complexity of locomotives sufficiently. Taking your view point to its logical conclusion you will never be buying from some of the worlds largest automotive manufacturers as they have frequently had to recall vehicles and never buy certain brands of domestic appliance because fridges and washing machines have caught fire! It is all probably down to Human error installing the motor the wrong way around just like lots of plugs rewired by householders throughout the country giving no use protection! Mark Saunders It must be said that reading about locos with differing motor arrangements to that which was expected and provided with magazine review samples, one flywheel, two flywheels, motors fitted reversed, does not give complete confidence in those offered for sale. One could be forgiven for gaining the impression that the factory ran out of parts with which to assemble the locos and found an ad-hoc work-around to complete them, just missing in the process the fact that the motor wires were not reversed to suit and the locos thus run the opposite to normal convention. However, reading further comments about poorly placed/executed printed details made down to a price rather than up to a quality seems to resonate with me. Indeed this is the overall view I am left with after reading all the comments posted on the various threads relating to the Oxford locos, Radial, Dean Goods, etc released to date. This might be unfair and the fault is poor assembly/QC, but the end result is the same. Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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