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9 hours ago, Chris116 said:

Just been having another look at information and it appears from one source that it may be a GP18. Can anyone shed more light on this?

 

46 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said:

The fan arrangement on the roof would suggest GP18, yes. I also found the model itself listed under Mehano.


Agreed - if I search for GP18 models loads of similar pictures come up.  What I haven’t found is a prototype photo of a GP18 in UP livery to suggest a number though?  If they didn’t actually run that particularly model, it could be you have a free choice :) 

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When I want photo's of a specific loco I go to the RRPictureacrchives.net and search by loco type then by Railroad. This search reveals no pictures of UP GP18s which, given the huge nature of this resource, suggests there weren't any. However in terms of US railroading I am very much a beginner so stand to be corrected! It is of course, similar to loco's they did have, such as the GP9 - I don't know what such a conversion would entail, though doing a quick search I can't see any UP examples without dynamic brakes.

 

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Many thanks for all the replies. From reading about AHM it is certain in my mind that they didn't manufacture anything. They bought in and reboxed other manufacturers models. 

 

Now my only problem is to find a number that UP did not use in the 1960 to 1990 timescale. Due to my love of stock car racing I shall check out 68, 212, 235, 379, 381 and 443.

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Looking at various websites I think I am right in saying that UP never had a GP18 short high hood version. 

 

That has led me to look at possible numbers that have not been used on other UP diesels and from a first check it seems that my two favoured numbers, 381 and 443, are both available.

 

Thanks again to those who have given some very useful replies.

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My bank account is not going to be happy but I am!

 

I have won an AHM Chicago and North Western SW600 and an AHM Santa Fe GP35.

 

This means I now have ten four axle diesels to run a layout that will be run with a maximum of three locos needed in an operating session!

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16 hours ago, Chris116 said:

This means I now have ten four axle diesels to run a layout that will be run with a maximum of three locos needed in an operating session!

Ha ha, slippery slope, mate. Slippery slope!!

When I first had a dabble in O Scale, one Atlas Plymouth & one Atlas F-Unit was all I thought I'd need.

Now 12 locomotives later, and that's just the American ones...!! :mosking:

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18 hours ago, Chris116 said:

My bank account is not going to be happy but I am!

 

I have won an AHM Chicago and North Western SW600 and an AHM Santa Fe GP35.

 

This means I now have ten four axle diesels to run a layout that will be run with a maximum of three locos needed in an operating session!

 

1 hour ago, F-UnitMad said:

Ha ha, slippery slope, mate. Slippery slope!!

When I first had a dabble in O Scale, one Atlas Plymouth & one Atlas F-Unit was all I thought I'd need.

Now 12 locomotives later, and that's just the American ones...!! :mosking:

 

Keep the boxes and look after your locos and they can also sell on well when the time comes too - so you can raise funds to buy...

 

...more locomotives :)

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IMG20211228192416.jpg.f78414b137cee70d8b5147d9db3a9d93.jpgToo many domestic chores over the last couple of months has seen nothing done to the layout. However I was in Brighton last week and found a second hand stamp shop that also does diecast models and a small amount of model railways. The story about 41304 is on my Elmstone layout thread. At the same time as I bought the Ivatt tank, I also got a Santa Fe caboose. This was in much better condition than the Ivatt but as can be seen from the photo it looks rather small, almost as if it is 3mm scale with 16.5mm gauge! The poor conductor would never be able see over any of my other stock. The caboose says Life-like on the underside so I would be interested in comments about whether it is right or a total bin job.

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Its a North Eastern style caboose, originally designed by the Reading RR but used by other roads in the region. Tunnel clearances were lower in the NE as they were built earlier hence to low height of the cupola, bear in mind that boxcars tend to be built out to the full clearance plate (loading gauge) so a brake man in the cupola wouldn’t necessarily be able to see over the roofs. Bay window and wide vision cabooses were attempts to deal with the vision issues. Rapido are making one and have some more details on their website.

https://rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-northeastern-design-steel-caboose

 

It’s a good model of a real prototype but I’ll leave you to browse RR picture archive to see if ATSF operated any. http://rrpicturearchives.net/rsList.aspx?id=ATSF&cid=1

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8 minutes ago, doctor quinn said:

Its a North Eastern style caboose, originally designed by the Reading RR but used by other roads in the region. Tunnel clearances were lower in the NE as they were built earlier hence to low height of the cupola, bear in mind that boxcars tend to be built out to the full clearance plate (loading gauge) so a brake man in the cupola wouldn’t necessarily be able to see over the roofs. Bay window and wide vision cabooses were attempts to deal with the vision issues.

Thank you for that information. I learn new things on here all the time.

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NE is the official classification for an eight-wheel (two truck) caboose, as opposed to a four wheel caboose (NM).

NE is, of course, a common abbreviation for “North East(ern)”, as as this type was more common in the northeastern States, the nickname stuck.

Nobody nicknamed the NM “New Mexican”, though - probably because the two-character codes for each State came into use some 40+ years after the AAR code!

 

From the 1932 AAR classification of car codes:

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NE Caboose mounted on eight wheels and longer than four-wheel caboose, but of the same general design.

 

NM Freight train service caboose for convenience of trainmen. This class is mounted on four wheels and has lookout at top over roof. It is fitted with bunks or benches and a stove for cooking and heating purposes; also tank for storage of drinking and washing water, and small tool storage boxes.

Source: https://www.opsig.org/files/resources/AARFreightCarCodes.pdf

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I got three very nice box cars recently via eBay.

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The well packed parcel appeared to have had a spike pushed into it at some point in its journey to my front door. Clearly it was not the fault of the seller and I have given them good feedback but on one of the box cars one truck had been damaged and I want to replace it. I have a pair of Kadee 50 ton Bettendorf Metal Trucks but they make the box car ride about 2mm higher. Can anyone suggest the correct product to solve the problem?

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The second photo shows one of the new trucks under the box car with the old undamaged one next door.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

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Well, so much for getting on with wiring the layout so I can start operating it and then adding scenery. A case of no get up and go with a positive result for a Covid Test have seen nothing done! I have nothing worse than a mild cold but the test result means I can't go out. 

 

The one bit of good news is that my hunt on eBay for a Norfolk Southern loco has produced brand new Athearn GP 38-2 for under £35 including postage. Just got to sort out the hand rails which is going to be an interesting job!

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