Knuckles Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) For those of you in various places who has expressed confusion and wondering why I set out to make the 812 when there is a brass kit and an RTR model coming along; as said in other places, ultimately I want to build 4 of these so it's a lot cheaper for me to do my own, on top of that the plan has been in my mind for around a decade so it isn't anything new. Further more, I can re-scale these up or down if there is any interest so from my perspective it makes perfect sense. Comments )good or bad) and shares welcome. Note about the blue render. This is just a quick render to give an impression, not an attempt to show an accurate combination as indeed the Caley ones were smooth with a different smokebox door. You'll also see I didn't finish all the livery details for the same reason. A nice blue and white render looks better than boring black. However, just for the sake of it here is it in black with a different safety valve and a number bunged on. Again, just as a quick impression. Edited October 1, 2019 by Knuckles 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley 439 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Lovely quality of print, I'm planning to finish mine as 828 - paint is only an initial layer (blue is only to be an undercoat). A great way to make a start on a Caley 0-6-0 (ok there is a chassis to source but still), and might hopefully order more once this is done. The spare parts (different safety valves, buffers and spare whistles) will also be very handy for future scratchbuilds/bodges 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 Thanks for showing. Looking forward to seeing the final outcome. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 On 13/10/2019 at 17:28, Caley 439 said: Lovely quality of print, I'm planning to finish mine as 828 - paint is only an initial layer (blue is only to be an undercoat). A great way to make a start on a Caley 0-6-0 (ok there is a chassis to source but still), and might hopefully order more once this is done. The spare parts (different safety valves, buffers and spare whistles) will also be very handy for future scratchbuilds/bodges Nice to see this in the flesh, so to speak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Well, I’m absolutely dumbfounded as this one has sneaked in right under my radar. Impressed and very, very interested. You’ll definitely be getting orders from me in due course. Please consider doing a Jumbo too; the world will be a better place for it! :-) Davy. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Thanks Davy. Still working on the tender abd other bits but shouldn't be too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Mad McCann said: Well, I’m absolutely dumbfounded as this one has sneaked in right under my radar. Impressed and very, very interested. You’ll definitely be getting orders from me in due course. Please consider doing a Jumbo too; the world will be a better place for it! :-) Davy. Excellent new loco there from Knuckles (Knuckles wants 4 of them?) I agree, a Jumbo would be a great addition. Would not that better suit those with Sudrian tendencies? I thought the Scottish twins were Jumbos, not 812s? Edited October 30, 2019 by Edwardian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Well, to the best of my knowledge, “Donald and Douglas” were inspired by the pairs of 812s used on the Annbank mineral turns in Ayrshire rather than Jumbos. Which of course doesn’t detract from the extreme utility of the Jumbos which in that period were still widely used on the lighter goods turns with their 2F rating, as opposed to the 3F of the 812s. :-) Davy. Edited October 31, 2019 by Mad McCann Spelling errors! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad McCann Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 By the way, that isn’t a Neilson saddle tank I see behind the painted sample, is it? ;-) Davy. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Donald and Douglas are indeed 812's. The Portly one ordered one engine that would be the next number in the 657 Class. Later in the series it was revealed the twins were saved from scrap so me and a few others in a particular research group have concluded one 657 was ordered but two 812 nails sent instead. The 2nd perhaps for compensation or spares due to what seems to be the result of a wee scam. Yeah I want 4 of them, works out much cheaper for me to thus draw them up myself. If I was building just one model I wouldn't have bothered designing them. I'll need two black and two blue for the above RWS characters and possibly some painted up in a real livery as I love my pre-grouping models. Railway Series (RWS) modelling in a serious researched way and pre-grouping railways are my chief two railway modelling interests. I quite like BR stuff too but we see too much of that for the most part. Edited October 31, 2019 by Knuckles 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, Knuckles said: Donald and Douglas are indeed 812's. The Portly one ordered one engine that would be the next number in the 657 Class. Later in the series it was revealed the twins were saved from scrap so me and a few others in a particular research group have concluded one 657 was ordered but two 812 nails sent instead. The 2nd perhaps for compensation or spares due to what seems to be the result of a wee scam. Yeah I want 4 of them, works out much cheaper for me to thus draw them up myself. If I was building just one model I wouldn't have bothered designing them. I'll need two black and two blue for the above RWS characters and possibly some painted up in a real livery as I love my pre-grouping models. Railway Series (RWS) modelling in a serious researched way and pre-grouping railways are my chief two railway modelling interests. I quite like BR stuff too but we see too much of that for the most part. I guessed 4 = 2 black plus 2 blue, but I'd always believed they were Jumbos! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Nah it's officially confirmed in the source material rare books etc. 812. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley 439 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 That tender is very tempting......easier than building another tender too...... Must resist! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iak Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Wubble wibble wow! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 More Wibbles to come! As well as working on the 812 Tender, Also working on a few commissions. Here's the USA 1969 Scotty progress, ultimately doing it as the client wants a H0 model but it's agreed to release things in 4mm too. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Any chance you can post those update pics here, Knuckles? When I click on the twitter links I get zilch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Can't always do it as I find uploading via mobile a swine. Twitter link is just 20 times easier! Was saying on Twitter some details are missing, need changing or a bit thick for printing etc as it is still a work in progress at the moment. Will do pics for the 812 tender progress later. Edited November 14, 2019 by Knuckles 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sparkshotcustomcreationsscc?section=3.5mm+H0+Flying+Scotsman+1969+%26+Tenders&s=0 Boom, yup. 3.5mm H0 Scotty is released. 4mm one following in a day or two once everything is uploaded. On the Photon can print everything bar the loco bodies at around 50% of the price although I haven't yet calculated the costs exactly but roughly that. Loco bodies are a Shapeways only purchase currently due to the Photon being a smaller machine. Will be buying a 2nd one soon. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sparkshotcustomcreationsscc?section=4mm+Flying+Scotsman+1969+%26+Tenders&s=0 - Right, now where is that 812 tender I was working on...and the 2-4-0 Victoria, and the...and the......Yeah..... Need 20 hands. Edited December 3, 2019 by Knuckles 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley 439 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 On 31/10/2019 at 07:53, Mad McCann said: By the way, that isn’t a Neilson saddle tank I see behind the painted sample, is it? ;-) Davy. Sorry Davy, somehow missed this - it's a Cowlairs saddle tank, link below https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/134921-caley-439s-workbench/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just a wee update, still around! My online presence in various places has been low lately. 812 tender progress has been super slow as I've been working on commissions for others (still am) although progress is being made still.... 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 13/10/2019 at 17:28, Caley 439 said: Lovely quality of print, I'm planning to finish mine as 828 - paint is only an initial layer (blue is only to be an undercoat). A great way to make a start on a Caley 0-6-0 (ok there is a chassis to source but still), and might hopefully order more once this is done. The spare parts (different safety valves, buffers and spare whistles) will also be very handy for future scratchbuilds/bodges Marvellous model! It looks like a Hornby model from the 2000s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 03/12/2019 at 04:48, Knuckles said: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/sparkshotcustomcreationsscc?section=3.5mm+H0+Flying+Scotsman+1969+%26+Tenders&s=0 Boom, yup. 3.5mm H0 Scotty is released. 4mm one following in a day or two once everything is uploaded. On the Photon can print everything bar the loco bodies at around 50% of the price although I haven't yet calculated the costs exactly but roughly that. Loco bodies are a Shapeways only purchase currently due to the Photon being a smaller machine. Will be buying a 2nd one soon. It has to be asked-would it take much work to turn this into the 1988/89 Australia trip version of Scotsman? Whilst the PSM model does exist in HO, these are hard to find and not cheap (guess how I know....), and I'm sure a few down here would be interested in it. What chassis would it take? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted February 1, 2020 Author Share Posted February 1, 2020 For H0 chassis I can't advise as the whole project was done by modifying then rescaling the existing range with the understanding that a chassis can be sourced or made later. What are the main differences of the Australia version bar the long bowser type tender? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 02/02/2020 at 03:11, Knuckles said: For H0 chassis I can't advise as the whole project was done by modifying then rescaling the existing range with the understanding that a chassis can be sourced or made later. What are the main differences of the Australia version bar the long bowser type tender? That’s fair enough about the chassis. I’m sure something could be developed that would be suitable for use. The main differences primarily come down to the condition of the locomotive at the time (Dia. 107 boiler etc.). The long bowser type tender is merely what we call a water gin, and was attached/detached as needed for extra water. That’s already available in HO. Now if a HO 4079 was to come along, there’d be a few happy blokes in WA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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